Mizuki wasn't killed, he was beaten to a pulp, then taken to prison afterwardsNaruto killed Mizuki too. :| He didn't care and went out for ramen afterwards with Iruka.
ot: Still a good thread. U_U
Mizuki wasn't killed, he was beaten to a pulp, then taken to prison afterwardsNaruto killed Mizuki too. :| He didn't care and went out for ramen afterwards with Iruka.
ot: Still a good thread. U_U
ThanksA perfect five star thread. Keep up the good work.
Well, Kishi uses mythology in tons of other places in the manga. It isn't too farfetched to make the connections that were made in this thread, but to each his own.I don't buy into the god representation thing, but they were the two good Uchias - 2 of 3 that did not let BZ play them like a fiddle.
Thanks a lot!Great thread man. This was too legit
The bashing ones did U_UWait wtf just happened? Did 10 comments just disappear?
Good point about the message about passing things down into the next generation. And thanks, glad you enjoyed it!Great Thread! I enjoyed reading this, especially the relations to the Shinto Gods. Shisui was such a mysterious character, a shame Kishi didn't give him more screen time. I also liked that you mentioned how Itachi's Mangeyko appeared after Shisui's death, going back to the same legends with Koto. and Izanagi. I feel that also somewhat represents entrusting the next generation, something this manga emphasizes a lot.
Well done as always Magatsu
You're absolutely correct. This was a major factor in the outburst, but it was what triggered it that was important in the context of this thread, which I had explainedGood thread but I think your first part may be a little one sided, Itachi's outburst and fight with the military police investigators wasn't due soley to their remarks about Shisui, but also because of the high tensions between the uchiha and the leaf. The fact that he knew his whole clan could not see past the uchiha curse of hatred and also probably because these investigators had no idea at all of the coming events. I think by this point in the manga Itachi knew the Uchiha would have to be eradicated
There we go!! Squad!dope thread~~~~~~~ booom!
I agree with you, thanks for commenting!They have a very good relationship in the story. Almost like real brothers. Itachi, clearly had a special place for shisui, in his heart. Anyways, when i saw the Story of shisui, i didn't like how he died. But he did what was the best.
Good thread, sorry for my errors.
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Thanks bro, glad you enjoyed it!Great Theory man
You made great connections comparing the Shinto deities to Shisui (Kotoamatsukami) and Itachi (Izanagi). It was interesting how you connected the disappearance of Kotoamatsukami, and the appearance of the new generation of Gods (Kamiyonanayo) to Shisui's death and Itachi's subsequent awakening of the MS.
Well said, I agree.This is why Shisui and Itachi are the greatest of Uchiha. They truly embody the definition of love and selflessness, and their bond, even though it's not in your face, was a very strong one.
Great thread.
Thanks, glad you liked it!Nice job, I like this!
Overshadowed by troll threads en masse U_UThese sorts of threads don't come around often. Very interesting, and nice work
don't confuse being the greatest with being the most beloved. For all intents and purposes, various characters including Itachi had already mentioned who was.This is why Shisui and Itachi are the greatest of Uchiha. They truly embody the definition of love and selflessness, and their bond, even though it's not in your face, was a very strong one.
Great thread.
Depends what your criteria for "greatest" is, which is subjective.don't confuse being the greatest with being the most beloved. For all intents and purposes, various characters including Itachi had already mentioned who was.
Interesting thought... though I doubt itI always had the crazy headcanon that Shisui only became Itachi's friend at first because his father ordered him too. Kagami was a teammate of Danzo, and after the Kyuubi attack probably suspected Fugaku/the other high ranking members to plan a coup.
it depends on nothing but canon. I didn't see anybody canonically state Itachi or Shisui as being the greatest. As beloved as Itachi is, he himself said it was Madara. There's absolutely no room for debate about it.Depends what your criteria for "greatest" is, which is subjective.
Someone can say that Kagami was the greatest and Madara was the worst and still be somewhat correct, within a given context.
No, not really. Understand what "canon" means before you go throwing it aroundit depends on nothing but canon. I didn't see anybody canonically state Itachi or Shisui as being the greatest, and as beloved as Itachi is, he himself said it was Madara. There's absolutely no room for debate about it.
i know full well that canon basically means official info. All of this is just you making a garbage argument in an attempt to justify your own opinion, when Itachi himself said it was Madara; and he shared absolutely none of Madara's views or personally liked him. So you can just zip it shut with all of that "he could've been wanking Madara" talk.No, not really. Understand what "canon" means before you go throwing it around
"Canon" isn't really an applicable term to subjective arguments (and Itachi didnt really say Madara was the greatest, assuming you're referring to where he calls him an "invincible immortal". At best, you can justify that statement means he was calling him the strongest, power-wise. It has 0 application to his morals, etc).
For example, if I said that the Raikage can't evade Amaterasu or Minato wasn't Naruto's father, I'd be wrong, because those are two things that are canonical and cannot be debated.
However, things that aren't 100% objective are debatable, such as the " greatest" Uchiha. Itachi could have wanked Madara on every page in the manga, and I can still say that he wasn't the greatest and be right. Because to me, being the greatest might not mean being the strongest, but about what actions you did, etc.
1) Provide me a scan where Itachi directly says Madara is the greatest Uchiha ever/of all time. Any other combination of words can be debatedi know full well that canon basically means official info. All of this is just you making a garbage argument in an attempt to justify your own opinion, when Itachi himself said it was Madara; and he shared absolutely none of Madara's views or personally liked him. So you can just zip it shut with all of that "he could've been wanking Madara" talk.