itachi and minato are not top 10

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So , I guess you logic failed

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I don't see How someone can Put Tobirama who has Almost Zero Hype and Almost Zero Feats in the Top 10, Just because he is Hashirama's Brother xd

Laughable.
 

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why do ppl constantly put the sons of so6p jux because their his kids...dats like puting goten n gohan on da top of da chart on dbz...they arent the strongest but they are the sons of the strongest..we all obviously know dat..
 

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I don't see How someone can Put Tobirama who has Almost Zero Hype and Almost Zero Feats in the Top 10, Just because he is Hashirama's Brother xd

Laughable.

umm o feats? really

lord senju
second hokage
created iwr
has an unkown s/t
was and is still know as the greatest water style user and can create water from nothing

guesses it dont count huh? didnt know:rolleyes:
 

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Lets use people with kg's for example.
Lets say we take away itachi's sharigan. He still has his genjutsu prowess which believe it or not its been said that he is so good at it that he can cast it by pointing his finger. If you add his handspeed, speed, intelligence and taijutsu ability he is still no pushover without the sharigan

Sasuke is also another genius who graduated before he activated the sharigan. His speed, mastery of fire and lightning based attacks, intelligence and taijutsu isnt too bad.

Nagato on the other hand, every ability he has is derived from the rennigan, unless of course you can show me other wise

That's the problem, we don't know anything about Nagato without the rinnegan.No matter what you are I say, neither of us can predict how he would be without the rinnegan.Which is why saying Nagato would be pathetic is a ridiculous statement.
 

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umm o feats? really

lord senju
second hokage
created iwr
has an unkown s/t
was and is still know as the greatest water style user and can create water from nothing

guesses it dont count huh? didnt know:rolleyes:

I don't see how Any of them Make him Top10.
 

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Actually, currently... I could see sasuke beating Tobirama if Tobirama doesn't use Edo-Tensei and only if Tobirama doesn't use Edo-Tensei. Sasuke has fought many water style users and I can't see how water style can harm Sasuke's susanoo to be honest and besides, the amaterasu could probably burn it and sasuke has fire-style jutsu too.... and how does being a "lord senju" and "second hokage" and Hashirama's younger brother make him close to Hashirama in terms of strength.. if we had more info about his techniques and fighting capabilities then I would reconsider but right now... I could see sasuke beating Tobirama as long as there is no edo-tensei by Tobirama..

I am sure others would also agree and no offense to you btw. I can tell Tobirama is one of your favorite characters and I am just using what is given in the manga xd

Also, itachi and minato should be up there and so6p, younger and older brother shouldn't be up there... itachi and minato are some of the fewest people in the manga who are geniuses and are still capable of putting up a good fight and win. There are people who are smart but not strong and people who are really strong but not as smart as itachi and minato..
 

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so itachi feats make him better?

tobirama>>itachi
tobirama>minato

What do you base that on Then?.

His incomplete IWR?, Or because he is Senju?, Or because of his Unknown S/t?.

Or just because he is considered the Best Water User?.

None of what You listed Makes Tobirama > Itachi or Minato.
 

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Actually, currently... I could see sasuke beating Tobirama if Tobirama doesn't use Edo-Tensei and only if Tobirama doesn't use Edo-Tensei. Sasuke has fought many water style users and I can't see how water style can harm Sasuke's susanoo to be honest and besides, the amaterasu could probably burn it and sasuke has fire-style jutsu too.... and how does being a "lord senju" and "second hokage" and Hashirama's younger brother make him close to Hashirama in terms of strength.. if we had more info about his techniques and fighting capabilities then I would reconsider but right now... I could see sasuke beating Tobirama as long as there is no edo-tensei by Tobirama..

I am sure others would also agree and no offense to you btw. I can tell Tobirama is one of your favorite characters and I am just using what is given in the manga xd

Also, itachi and minato should be up there and so6p, younger and older brother shouldn't be up there... itachi and minato are some of the fewest people in the manga who are geniuses and are still capable of putting up a good fight and win. There are people who are smart but not strong and people who are really strong but not as smart as itachi and minato..

omg the tittle greatest water style user you seem to forget none of them can reach his level he dose normal water style which needs 42 hand seals with just 1
 

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I don't see How someone can Put Tobirama who has Almost Zero Hype and Almost Zero Feats in the Top 10, Just because he is Hashirama's Brother xd

Laughable.

ppl said the same crap about Hashirama before He got the hype train to hell, Tobirama is the 1st brother and fought side by side with Hashirama, It's obvious that he's either equal to or slightly less than Hashirama.
 
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What do you base that on Then?.

His incomplete IWR?, Or because he is Senju?, Or because of his Unknown S/t?.

Or just because he is considered the Best Water User?.

None of what You listed Makes Tobirama > Itachi or Minato.

so the fact he spent his whole life fighting uchiha means nothing right?:rolleyes:
 

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ppl said the same crap about Hashirama before He got the hype train to hell, Tobirama is the 1st brother and fought side by side with Hashirama, It's obvious that he's either equal to or slightly less than Hashirama.

Pure speculation

so the fact he spent his whole life fighting uchiha means nothing right?:rolleyes:

No not Really.

He can Fight Uchiha's Good for Him, Doesn't make him Top 10. Nor does it make him > Minato or Itachi.
 

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Pure speculation



No not Really.

He can Fight Uchiha's Good for Him, Doesn't make him Top 10. Nor does it make him > Minato or Itachi.

Specuation yes, but true to an extent none the less
 

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Pure speculation



No not Really.

He can Fight Uchiha's Good for Him, Doesn't make him Top 10. Nor does it make him > Minato or Itachi.

am 98 percent sure he beat itachi

90 percent sure he beat minato
 
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