Itachi: among top 5 or not

[Emo boy nagato]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

Might Who: with all do respect you have given no sufficient evidence to support your claim of Itachi's inadequacies and in fact have given no support at all for your argument that he is is over-rated other than saying he has a lot of fans so you hate him in an effort to go against the grain and make yourself feel more significant, so therefor your argument is false.

i agree..

 

[Might Who]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

no in my opinion he coul b in that top 5 u listed he is easily stronger than kabuto

No he not because Kabuto got Edo tensi.

 

[The Eye]

Re: Itachi & Minato are not top 5! They couldn't even get past these kages!

with Muu thing, your right about itachi not being able to see his chakra when he goes invisible it says it in the magna. idk if minato cant either or the 2nd as they both place their hands on the ground and is able to sense enemies idk.

I forgot who said stated but any genjutsu user would be shit compared to the uchihia;s sharigan

 

[Soulzz]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

I'm going to call you on your bullshit.

You can't put in people that aren't even in the manga. You just put random ass people down to make it seem like more.

It is a good thing your entire post was a waste of space then. I don't know why I was expecting anything else really, all that you ever do is try and flame or troll people.

Shisui is nowhere near Itachi's skill level, that is BS. Ao fought him and survived, and guess what Ao sucks balls. Maybe once a decade he can beat him, but other than that Itachi beats him easily. Don't even try and argue this one because anything you say here will be bullshit you made up.

Gin and Kin bros lose too, they aren't real jinchurikki and have no defense against Itachi's genjutsu, and if they turn into a mini tailed beast they are too large of a target for the Totsuka blade or Amaterasu.

Anything related to the SO6P doesn't count. He isn't even a gatdam character.

Naruto might be able to beat him but he still doesn't have a defense against genjutsu yet.

Killer Bee can't beat him either. Itachi is faster than Bee normally, and even Sasuke was able to dodge Bee's tailed beast cloak attacks. Itachi is faster and better with taijutsu, so that wouldn't be a problem. And if Bee were to fully transform he would get sealed by the Totsuka sword if it were a serious fight.

Hashirama we know literally nothing about. But you know what I do know? A weak ass old Hiruzen was able to put exploding tags on him and his brother. Had those been their real bodies they would have lost a limb each.
You know what else I know about Hashirama? He had to have help from the 9-tails to beat Madara and guess what? Madara didn't die there. He was still alive and then got the rinnegan and Hashirama's powers.

Find me somewhere where it says Sasori is immune to genjutsu. That is fanmade BS. If he has chakra then he has a chakra network, which is how genjutsu works. Anything with its own chakra pathway can be caught in genjutsu. And even if that were true Itachi can beat people that Sasori can't so it doesn't really make much of a difference since Sasori is not more powerful than Itachi.


So really your only argument is characters that aren't even in the manga and have never been shown doing anything, in addition to mostly characters that are all hype and have no screen time.

The bolded people are the ones that can beat Itachi, green names are the ones that you are 100% wrong about, blue names don't matter at all because you were obviously just putting them in to find more people to make it seem like you had a better argument, and the red named people are almost all hype or we just know too little about. Honestly how are you going to say Hiruzen or Hashirama can for certain beat Itachi when we haven't seen either of them fight.


Itachi has a ton of haters because he is a well liked character, and is powerful. Had he not been so awesome you probably would have liked him yourself, but instead you joined the "I hate Itachi bandwagon" which is exactly like what a hipster does. Oh no everybody likes that character, maybe we should all start to hate him since liking him is too popular and I want to be an individual.

Lmao owned

 

[Might Who]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

Lmao owned

He was not talking about me I don't think?

 

[Draegod]

Re: Itachi & Minato are not top 5! They couldn't even get past these kages!

Madara
Tobi
Nagato
1st Hokage

these people are all stronger than the people you named.

Read the thread! I never said they couldn't, this thread is about itachi and minato. They are clearly behind these ninjas in the top ten!

 

[The Eye]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

I'm going to call you on your bullshit.

You can't put in people that aren't even in the manga. You just put random ass people down to make it seem like more.

It is a good thing your entire post was a waste of space then. I don't know why I was expecting anything else really, all that you ever do is try and flame or troll people.

Shisui is nowhere near Itachi's skill level, that is BS. Ao fought him and survived, and guess what Ao sucks balls. Maybe once a decade he can beat him, but other than that Itachi beats him easily. Don't even try and argue this one because anything you say here will be bullshit you made up.

Gin and Kin bros lose too, they aren't real jinchurikki and have no defense against Itachi's genjutsu, and if they turn into a mini tailed beast they are too large of a target for the Totsuka blade or Amaterasu.

Anything related to the SO6P doesn't count. He isn't even a gatdam character.

Naruto might be able to beat him but he still doesn't have a defense against genjutsu yet.

Killer Bee can't beat him either. Itachi is faster than Bee normally, and even Sasuke was able to dodge Bee's tailed beast cloak attacks. Itachi is faster and better with taijutsu, so that wouldn't be a problem. And if Bee were to fully transform he would get sealed by the Totsuka sword if it were a serious fight.

Hashirama we know literally nothing about. But you know what I do know? A weak ass old Hiruzen was able to put exploding tags on him and his brother. Had those been their real bodies they would have lost a limb each.
You know what else I know about Hashirama? He had to have help from the 9-tails to beat Madara and guess what? Madara didn't die there. He was still alive and then got the rinnegan and Hashirama's powers.

Find me somewhere where it says Sasori is immune to genjutsu. That is fanmade BS. If he has chakra then he has a chakra network, which is how genjutsu works. Anything with its own chakra pathway can be caught in genjutsu. And even if that were true Itachi can beat people that Sasori can't so it doesn't really make much of a difference since Sasori is not more powerful than Itachi.


So really your only argument is characters that aren't even in the manga and have never been shown doing anything, in addition to mostly characters that are all hype and have no screen time.

The bolded people are the ones that can beat Itachi, green names are the ones that you are 100% wrong about, blue names don't matter at all because you were obviously just putting them in to find more people to make it seem like you had a better argument, and the red named people are almost all hype or we just know too little about. Honestly how are you going to say Hiruzen or Hashirama can for certain beat Itachi when we haven't seen either of them fight.


Itachi has a ton of haters because he is a well liked character, and is powerful. Had he not been so awesome you probably would have liked him yourself, but instead you joined the "I hate Itachi bandwagon" which is exactly like what a hipster does. Oh no everybody likes that character, maybe we should all start to hate him since liking him is too popular and I want to be an individual.

when did the 1st have the nine tails as an alley?
and mind you blame orchumaru for being a noob at edo tensen because he was controlling them.
btw i hope you know itachi genjutsu is nothing compared to shusi. and genjutsu is what itachi always does.

 

[The Eye]

Re: Itachi & Minato are not top 5! They couldn't even get past these kages!

Read the thread! I never said they couldn't, this thread is about itachi and minato. They are clearly behind these ninjas in the top ten!

no, itachi and minato still makes it to top ten...
the people you named are not as hard as you think.

 

[Might Who]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

when did the 1st have the nine tails as an alley?
and mind you blame orchumaru for being a noob at edo tensen because he was controlling them.
btw i hope you know itachi genjutsu is nothing compared to shusi. and genjutsu is what itachi always does.

Actually I do remember sometime like the 1st Hokage controlling the Nine Tails like a pet.

 

[The Eye]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

Actually I do remember sometime like the 1st Hokage controlling the Nine Tails like a pet.

both madara and the 1st can control the nine tails, but the 1st never had him as an ally i agree with everything else he was saying somewhat but then im like huh? and sasori isnt affected by genjutsu because a puppet doesnt get afftect by it, because it doesnt have a brain.

 

[Scryed]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

I'm going to call you on your bullshit.

You can't put in people that aren't even in the manga. You just put random ass people down to make it seem like more.

It is a good thing your entire post was a waste of space then. I don't know why I was expecting anything else really, all that you ever do is try and flame or troll people.

Shisui is nowhere near Itachi's skill level, that is BS. Ao fought him and survived, and guess what Ao sucks balls. Maybe once a decade he can beat him, but other than that Itachi beats him easily. Don't even try and argue this one because anything you say here will be bullshit you made up.

Gin and Kin bros lose too, they aren't real jinchurikki and have no defense against Itachi's genjutsu, and if they turn into a mini tailed beast they are too large of a target for the Totsuka blade or Amaterasu.

Anything related to the SO6P doesn't count. He isn't even a gatdam character.

Naruto might be able to beat him but he still doesn't have a defense against genjutsu yet.

Killer Bee can't beat him either. Itachi is faster than Bee normally, and even Sasuke was able to dodge Bee's tailed beast cloak attacks. Itachi is faster and better with taijutsu, so that wouldn't be a problem. And if Bee were to fully transform he would get sealed by the Totsuka sword if it were a serious fight.

Hashirama we know literally nothing about. But you know what I do know? A weak ass old Hiruzen was able to put exploding tags on him and his brother. Had those been their real bodies they would have lost a limb each.
You know what else I know about Hashirama? He had to have help from the 9-tails to beat Madara and guess what? Madara didn't die there. He was still alive and then got the rinnegan and Hashirama's powers.

Find me somewhere where it says Sasori is immune to genjutsu. That is fanmade BS. If he has chakra then he has a chakra network, which is how genjutsu works. Anything with its own chakra pathway can be caught in genjutsu. And even if that were true Itachi can beat people that Sasori can't so it doesn't really make much of a difference since Sasori is not more powerful than Itachi.


So really your only argument is characters that aren't even in the manga and have never been shown doing anything, in addition to mostly characters that are all hype and have no screen time.

The bolded people are the ones that can beat Itachi, green names are the ones that you are 100% wrong about, blue names don't matter at all because you were obviously just putting them in to find more people to make it seem like you had a better argument, and the red named people are almost all hype or we just know too little about. Honestly how are you going to say Hiruzen or Hashirama can for certain beat Itachi when we haven't seen either of them fight.


Itachi has a ton of haters because he is a well liked character, and is powerful. Had he not been so awesome you probably would have liked him yourself, but instead you joined the "I hate Itachi bandwagon" which is exactly like what a hipster does. Oh no everybody likes that character, maybe we should all start to hate him since liking him is too popular and I want to be an individual.

Hm, you made me think twice about Sasori's "immunity" to genjutsu. I think you're right.

 

[Might Who]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

Hm, you made me think twice about Sasori's "immunity" to genjutsu. I think you're right.

Please just go on previous post on the thread they will tell you... Never believe someone off the back always search!

 

[Billy]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

I'm going to call you on your bullshit.

You can't put in people that aren't even in the manga. You just put random ass people down to make it seem like more.

It is a good thing your entire post was a waste of space then. I don't know why I was expecting anything else really, all that you ever do is try and flame or troll people.

Shisui is nowhere near Itachi's skill level, that is BS. Ao fought him and survived, and guess what Ao sucks balls. Maybe once a decade he can beat him, but other than that Itachi beats him easily. Don't even try and argue this one because anything you say here will be bullshit you made up.

Gin and Kin bros lose too, they aren't real jinchurikki and have no defense against Itachi's genjutsu, and if they turn into a mini tailed beast they are too large of a target for the Totsuka blade or Amaterasu.

Anything related to the SO6P doesn't count. He isn't even a gatdam character.

Naruto might be able to beat him but he still doesn't have a defense against genjutsu yet.

Killer Bee can't beat him either. Itachi is faster than Bee normally, and even Sasuke was able to dodge Bee's tailed beast cloak attacks. Itachi is faster and better with taijutsu, so that wouldn't be a problem. And if Bee were to fully transform he would get sealed by the Totsuka sword if it were a serious fight.

Hashirama we know literally nothing about. But you know what I do know? A weak ass old Hiruzen was able to put exploding tags on him and his brother. Had those been their real bodies they would have lost a limb each.
You know what else I know about Hashirama? He had to have help from the 9-tails to beat Madara and guess what? Madara didn't die there. He was still alive and then got the rinnegan and Hashirama's powers.

Find me somewhere where it says Sasori is immune to genjutsu. That is fanmade BS. If he has chakra then he has a chakra network, which is how genjutsu works. Anything with its own chakra pathway can be caught in genjutsu. And even if that were true Itachi can beat people that Sasori can't so it doesn't really make much of a difference since Sasori is not more powerful than Itachi.


So really your only argument is characters that aren't even in the manga and have never been shown doing anything, in addition to mostly characters that are all hype and have no screen time.

The bolded people are the ones that can beat Itachi, green names are the ones that you are 100% wrong about, blue names don't matter at all because you were obviously just putting them in to find more people to make it seem like you had a better argument, and the red named people are almost all hype or we just know too little about. Honestly how are you going to say Hiruzen or Hashirama can for certain beat Itachi when we haven't seen either of them fight.


Itachi has a ton of haters because he is a well liked character, and is powerful. Had he not been so awesome you probably would have liked him yourself, but instead you joined the "I hate Itachi bandwagon" which is exactly like what a hipster does. Oh no everybody likes that character, maybe we should all start to hate him since liking him is too popular and I want to be an individual.

This boys and girls is what you call verbal rape, well done sir.

 

[Draegod]

Re: Itachi & Minato are not top 5! They couldn't even get past these kages!

no, itachi and minato still makes it to top ten...
the people you named are not as hard as you think.

Never said they wasn't top ten. They are.

And never said these ninjas are unbeatable, just itachi and minato cannot defeat them.

And these ninjas are indeed hard to fight, dont try and down play them now..

 

[Might Who]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

This boys and girls is what you call verbal rape, well done sir.

That is pretty long so I did not read it all but I have to admit he made some good points.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

both madara and the 1st can control the nine tails, but the 1st never had him as an ally i agree with everything else he was saying somewhat but then im like huh? and sasori isnt affected by genjutsu because a puppet doesnt get afftect by it, because it doesnt have a brain.

The manga says that "Hashirama gained control of the 9-tails and then it was sealed into Mito Uzumaki so that she could better aid him."

And that is a direct quote. I should know I have quoted it enough.

So either he had help from the 9-tails by itself, or like what I believe, Mito sealed it into herself and then helped hashirama. Those are the only two options, since that is what the manga says.

If need be I will find the manga page but it says that.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Common misconception

1. itachi is not some lovely little angel. he is arrogant and aggressive even when talking to people ON HIS SIDE and when he doesnt need to be.
he keeps talking about how tsukiyomi cant be beaten, tells asuma and kurenai they will die if they dont get out of his way, and yells impossible every time kakashi reveals MS or when sasuke overcomes tsukiyomi. relaly? you didnt account for the possibility mr smarty pants?
he insists hes the ONLY one who can stop kabuto and doesnt bring naruto and bee with him for no reason. why not take a kabuto first, tobi later policy? the jedi made the same mistake. yoda and obi could have double teamed anakin first then emperor later instead of fighting them at the same time. way to go genius. and insisting naruto is the only one who can fight sasuke (when he doesnt even have sage mode yet) is also arrogant. surely onoki or gaara can beat him without killing him. as far as itachi knows, sasuke doesnt even have MS yet and may not even have the potential to get it. unless he was controlling sasuke's mind and forced him to unlock it.

2. itachi was trying to defeat sasuke. initially anyway. he kept ranting about how sasuke cant beat him without MS and tried to genjutsu him into oblivion. but sasuke made him take him seriously by overcoming it and making further genjutsu pointless. unless itachi still had him trapped in tsukiyomi the entire time and was controlling his mind so sasuke wouldnt accidently off himself. i mean itachi didnt account for sasuke using oro's jutsu to escape either amat or tsuki. he could very well have killed sasuke and not predicted it. again unless he was controlling sasukes every move. and im fairly sure he shat his mother****ing pants over kirin, further proving he was underestimating sasuke, not simply holding back.
as for the disease, we know he drugged himself. what disease? what drug? was the disease a flu or something? was it affecting his chakra levels? his eyesight deteriorated but by how much? he performed the high levle ms jutsus fairly easy did he not. at 30% chakra he COULDNT use MS at all.
so for itachi to use all those high level moves, his chakra must have been near 100% at the start.
i know he wanted to rip oro out of himbut that was later on. he never expected sasuke to put up a fight without MS. and its proven itachi loves to underestimate people. he keeps getting surprised at what naruto, kakashi and sasuke pull out. but for little to no reason, he keeps overestimating gai and talking about how strong gai is to akatsuki. um bad move, you dumbass double agent. tell them that and they will send their strongest members and kill them all. itachi couldnt have accounted for 6th gate and kisame barely losing. so essentially he was ordering gai's murder. way to go genius.
keep in mind by now kishi would have been figuring out that maybe he should make the itachi retcon. so when he lumps all this unneeded crap as part of his "act" it gets insulting. like that whole cackling about new light stuff. ridiculous. itachi, sasuke THINKS AND KNOWS YOUR AN EVIL BASTARD. no need to repeatedly show him how utterly evil you are. theres not much you can do that would be more evil than killing his parents and making him watch for 154 hours.

 

[kaka96]

Re: Common misconception

LMAO I won't even bother pointing out all the flaws and fails of this thread

 

[Ghostofthewind]

Re: Itachi Is No Where Near Top 5

when did the 1st have the nine tails as an alley?
and mind you blame orchumaru for being a noob at edo tensen because he was controlling them.
btw i hope you know itachi genjutsu is nothing compared to shusi. and genjutsu is what itachi always does.

Cite where Shisui's genjutsu is "nothing compared" to Itachi. Dazno took Shisui's eye. Danzo couldn't lay a finger on Itachi. Itachi always uses genjutsu because he's a passifist

When Orochimaru summon the Hokage the 1st and 2nd said that Hirunzen was slacking off, not to mention Hirunzen was old.

 

[Soulzz]

Re: Common misconception

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