[Discussion] Itachi alive? or Sasuke's genjutsu?

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

no he gave his powers to saskue read the manga before you post plz

Please learn to spell correctly. If you are trying to make a point, it makes it look more valid if it sounds a bit more intelligent. You spell Sasuke as "Saskue" everytime...I dont see how switching the letters around would insult him, it just makes it seem like you don't spell correctly.

i think this was a genjutsu ...... i mean sasuke turned into that birds that formed itachi ...

I also believe that.

Didn't a good majority of Konoha get brought back from the dead because of Pain?

That is true, but I believe that is a Rinnegan ability, because Konan said that "the seventh path of Pain, he who weilds the Rinnegan is beyond life or death." Itachi doesnt have the Rinnegan


This is my own opinion on the matter: If you look at Itachis eyes RIGHT before he died, you can see that they withered out. This Itachi has a normal Mangekyo. Itachi also had a new cape, this one doesnt have Akatsuki cloud symbols on it, and wherever he got it from would have raised alarms as to him either being there, or being alive. On top of that, the crows came out of Sasuke. Personally I think this is some sort of Tsukiyomi, because Sasuke can totally control the illusion, the space, and the time. I that that Itachi coming back in such an illusion would be because he wants Danzo to see Itachi getting his revenge or whatever. Danzo will probably break the Tsukiyomi though.

I think when Sasuke got into Danzos face around here in this pic, he used the Tsukiyomi.

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[NarutoOBSESSION1995]

I'm 100% sure that Itachi is just a part of Sasuke's genjustu. After Itachi died (which Sasuke witnessed) the Akatsuki collected his body. And I'm sure Sasuke would be pretty damn pissed if somebody ressurected his brother.

 

[Typhon]

Didn't a good majority of Konoha get brought back from the dead because of Pain?

While I didn't really like that part, I don't disagree with it. You can't have all of Konoha dead or else the story would be over lol.

 

[Sasuke1543]

So everyone has pretty good theories on whats happening. But something i haven't seen pointed out is the fact that Danzo has a Sharingan in his right eye. At the Kage summit if i can recall the guy with the Byukugan sensed it being used. It's power is mind control.....so it could be a possibilty that the eyes on Danzo's arm's aren't his lives and he is controlling everyone's mind in the area and making them see whatever he wants them to see.

That would make sense.

Thoughts?

 

[Shunsui]

He shut down 3 of Danzo'o sharingans already.. I think he's having an effect on Danzo'o..​

Also,Itachi did not transfered his powers to Sasuke.. He purposely died at the hands of Sasuke for him to awake his Mangekyo Sharingan..​

u should read manga again

Amaterasu
Susanoo
probably Tsukuyomi
and Crow Clone Technique wich we saw in last 477

now ur saying those are not itachi powers?

 

[Miggy69]

i would like it to be itachi coming back buuuuut i think its just a tsukuyomi

 

[+luffy+]

So everyone has pretty good theories on whats happening. But something i haven't seen pointed out is the fact that Danzo has a Sharingan in his right eye. At the Kage summit if i can recall the guy with the Byukugan sensed it being used. It's power is mind control.....so it could be a possibilty that the eyes on Danzo's arm's aren't his lives and he is controlling everyone's mind in the area and making them see whatever he wants them to see.

That would make sense.

Thoughts?

if danzo was controling everybody..karin have sensed that ..acually she confermed that their is nothing weird in sasuke or danzo's chakra..

 

[Blakashi]

These are my thoughts. But before I go on to that we have to think hard about the eyes in the arm thing Danzou has going on. You don't have to look at the eyes in someones head to get caught in genjutsu. Eventhough they're in his arm it should all work the same, right?

With that being said, in chapter 477 on page 13 right before Sasuke cut off Danzou's arm Madara MIGHT have placed Danzou under genjutsu and he is the only one who sees Itachi. Check it out, he definitely made eye to eye contact with one of Danzou's eyes OR (AND I MEAN BIG OR) Madara just realized Susuke put Danzou under genjutsu or in a tsukuyomi....Atleast that's what I got out of it but I like my first scenario better. We really don't know how powerful Madara's eyes are.

Sasuke and Karin could have been under Danzou's genjutsu that's why he thought he cut the arm off and why she seen it come off, but Madara saw through it all.....That dude's an O.G. :hypertobi:......Oh yea, maybe Karin doesn't sense anything is going on because she doesn't realize Danzou is already in her hear making her think see doesn't notice anything....So many variables it can make your head hurt! But I one thing I do know is their eyes are definitely doing the talking right now.

 

[TOBI!]

or maybe possibly itachi put something else into sasuukes sharingan and his imagie is it?

 

[Blakashi]

or maybe possibly itachi put something else into sasuukes sharingan and his imagie is it?

Like I said...there are so many variables. I can't put down anyone's predictions. I've made correct predictions and i've been way off. You never know.

 

[j mafia13]

Its very likely some sort of genjutsu, possibly a Tsukiyomi. Sasuke just used two of his three techniques, Susanoo and Amaterasu and neither had any affect on Danzo. He may be trying the third technique now.

Another possibility is that Itachi is using a technique like Minato used to appear for a limited amount of time after his death. Sasuke really seems to be struggling against Danzo due to some unknown ability Danzo has been using to avoid every single one of Sasuke's attacks. Maybe Itachi knows about Danzo's ability and is going to tell Sasuke how to defeat it. Also he needs to come back to smack some sense into Sasuke.

I would personally hate for Itachi to come back. It would make his epic death meaningless and would kill that whole chapter of the manga. Also, Itachi transfered his eye techniques to Sasuke and some of his power to Naruto, so the new Itachi would have to be severely weakened. It would be a semi-powered, Amaterasu-less, Tsukiyomi-less and Susanoo-less Itachi. Also one of the reasons I love Naruto is because characters who die USUALLY don't come back. Its not DBZ where Goku dies, comes back, the earth explodes, is revived, everyone dies, but the Draganballs are used to revive everyone. Naruto actually has meaningful deaths and that is one of the best parts of the series.

gaara died and he was revived. thats the same way if when goku dies and he is revived. just saying.

 

[Ipp]

That is true, but I believe that is a Rinnegan ability, because Konan said that "the seventh path of Pain, he who weilds the Rinnegan is beyond life or death." Itachi doesnt have the Rinnegan

I was saying Madara may have a Rinnegan behind his mask.

I know Itachi doesn't, what I was saying is maybe he used a similiar jutsu to implant himself inside Sasuke; he did make a point to drain Sasuke's chakra to bring out Orichimaru and seal him. Orichimaru came out of Sasuke as a snake, Itachi appeared as crows that looks like they came from Sasuke. Correct me if I'm wrong but we did see Sasuke kill Orichimaru's body, yet he still had it when Sasuke ran out of chakra.

To me it is fairly clear Orichimaru isn't the only one that knows this technique, Naruto has a beast sealed inside of him that comes out when he is out of Chakra. Yes, it takes over the host body but it is along the same line of Jutsu. Itachi, worked directly under a hokage and as a member of Akatsuki he worked with Orichimaru. It is very possible for him to learn this jutsu. Also when Orichimaru was inside Sasuke he could use his jutsu, which explains how Sasuke can use Itachi's jutsu. I don't think there is a way to transfer abilities, as Madara claimed he did not know how Itachi did it.

I don't believe Itachi is alive, nor dead; he lives inside of Sasuke. If Itachi gave his soul to Sasuke maybe the Ametsaru no longer has the blinding side effect.

 

[twistedlink]

Ipp raises some good points.

Orochimaru was on his last legs and sasuke was to be the new body within the hour.

Orochimaru survived in Sasuke for weeks/months to the Itachi fight and seemed in perfect physical condition....

So yes, it looks like maybe one can put there "spirit" inside a host and come out physically again.

I hope Itachi does come back.

 

[Blakashi]

Ipp raises some good points.

Orochimaru was on his last legs and sasuke was to be the new body within the hour.

Orochimaru survived in Sasuke for weeks/months to the Itachi fight and seemed in perfect physical condition....

So yes, it looks like maybe one can put there "spirit" inside a host and come out physically again.

I hope Itachi does come back.

Good point and same here.

 

[twistedlink]

As I have said in some other threads now.

Itachi is the student of an Immortal Uchiha, he was the partner to Orochimaru who used rebirth techs, he is a super genius who could arguably be better than Shikamaru, Minato and a few others.

The main problem I see with him being a spirit to protect Sasuke is that we then have debunked Tobis story.

Think about it, Sasuke goes to kill Danzou, who is in Konoha, the people of which think Itachi is bad and Sasukes the hero of Konoha for getting him (had tobi not got him, but remember Itachi thought he wouldnt so this is still valid)

My point is imagine danzou vs sasuke in Konoha if sasuke had gone back to Konoha as Itachi wished for, and suddenly half way through the fight Itachi comes out helping him and turns out Itachi was good all along, and then everyone knows danzou made itachi oh my god my brain hurts.

Itachi has shown brilliant planning...to have himself arise from sasuke when danzou fights sasuke is very bad planning...

Plus amaterasu hit tobi almost instantly...Tsukyomi has come out randomly when sasuke wasnt really in trouble or winning.

so far sasuke hasnt been damaged and neither has danzou, its kinda stalemate right now and randomly itachi pops out??

As to it being genjutsu...Sasuke is too emotional about Itachi to use him as a tool, plus sasuke sucks at genjutsu lol.

Dunno itd be really good to have Itachi back...

 

[twistedlink]

Madara came back
Gaara came back
Kakashi came back
Kisame...hopefully lol...

I don't see it as impossible for Itachi to come back, he certainly has the skill to attempt it, whether Kishi will make it come true is simply improbable, but not impossible.

 

[Ipp]

Itachi has shown brilliant planning...to have himself arise from sasuke when danzou fights sasuke is very bad planning...

To have his "vessel" die is even worse planning.

Plus amaterasu hit tobi almost instantly...Tsukyomi has come out randomly when sasuke wasnt really in trouble or winning.

Sasuke has all of itachi's abilities minus whatever he gave to Naruto. So Sasuke used Tsukyomi on his own will, thinking he would crush Danzou on a blitz. He wants to eradicate Konoha, quicker he kills Danzou quicker he gets to Konoha which is why he would use "sure win" abilities prematurely.

so far sasuke hasnt been damaged and neither has danzou, its kinda stalemate right now and randomly itachi pops out??

Nowhere neara stalemate, Madura(tobi) has his sharigan out and can see chakra, he said Sasuke almost exhausted it with Tsukyomi and Amaterasu. Itachi also knows more of Danzou's abilities, he shrugged off Amaterasu he must have something up his sleeve that will one hit KO Sasuke.

If Itachi is inside Sasuke, he either comes out now and saves his beloved brother or they both die. If this is similiar Jutsu as in Naruto, the Nine Tails has said if you die, I die.

 

[twistedlink]

To have his "vessel" die is even worse planning.

Tobi NEEDS sasuke to sync with gedo mazo, sasuke is the most well protected person ever right now, by madara himself

 

[~Rerrando~]

I have a question and it is if Itachi is alive or is it simply Sasuke's genjutsu?

This chapter was phenomenal because even if Itachi is back due to a genjutsu never the less we get to see him again. If this is genjutsu then did Sasuke do this to simply play with Danzou's psyche? Or could Itachi have some how resurrected himself? I know, the chances that Itachi is back from the dead seems highly unlikely but if it is true then this is nothing short of epic. There is nothing I can post as evidence or to further my theory on this matter but what I do ask is what are all of your opinions on this occurrence?​

dude i wuz thinking same thing :whoa:

 

[En4G4G3WiThR4G3]

Itachi is there either because of Sasuke's tsukuyomi, or he implanted part of himself inside Sasuke, like the fourth did to Naruto...we'll just have to wait and see