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Itachi’s Final Lie: Izanami
This Thread is to illustrate the theory that Itachi LIED about using Izanami. This is his Final Lie… before dying at the hands of Kabuto by releasing Edo Tensei. I do not care at this moment to argue whether or not Izanami ACTUALLY EXISTS. I only wish to illustrate of WHY I believe he is not planning to use Izanami on Kabuto… he is actually using KOTOAMATSUKAMI.
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Kotoamatsukami: The ultimate genjutsu of the Uchiha Clan, granted by Shisui Uchiha's Mangekyō Sharingan. The technique itself allows the user to enter the opponent's mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things of their own free will. It is regarded as a genjutsu of the highest class, due to the victim being entirely unaware that they are being manipulated.
Izanami: “One” (Parenthesis mine) of the ultimate dōjutsu of the Uchiha clan. Like Izanagi, it is capable of affecting an opponent regardless of their five senses and — According to Itachi — in exchange for the temporary ability that it grants the user, the Sharingan with which Izanami is cast is sealed away and loses its light forever. This technique and Izanagi form a pair, but unlike the latter, which is a technique capable of altering destiny, Izanami is instead one that "decides" it. **********************************************************
My Theory:
At this moment, I would like to show you how this is a STRONG possibility. Itachi already told Naruto/Bee/Nagato that KOTO is the most powerful Genjutsu, ever. Not Izanami. But it is a jutsu to “decide one’s destiny” b/c in actuality you are controlling their thoughts which shapes their destiny. I also believe he may possibly use it on not only Kabuto, but also Sasuke himself. (I sort of doubt this though, b/c Itachi would have previously done this if it was his intention.)
Since Itachi’s KOTO was to “Protect Kohona” I’m sure he is FORCED to stop his brother from destroying the village mentally; Sasuke told him and Kabuto he plans to attack the village already, I don’t know how Itachi could ignore this comment under his current KOTO. Below are the (7) explanations of why I believe this to be true… so please argue individually against my Theory by listing the bullet point you disagree with; but I will not respond if you do not provide MANGA REFERENCES of why you believe I am incorrect, otherwise I will ignore.
Please post your counter arguments to my theories by addressing a specific bullet point below:
1) Itachi NEVER destroyed Shisui’s eye. Since both himself and Nagato were being controlled by Kabuto, AND Kabuto could “see” that Itachi had Shisui’s eye, he was FORCED to “act” like he destroyed it. This way, Kabuto, Tobi, Madara, or no one else would try to obtain this eye.
2) Itachi lied when he said that Shisui’s eye can only be used once every 10 years; this is only PARTIALLY correct. Shisui could perform this technique “regularly”, so what is the difference? The difference is Shisui’s chakra; its either Shisui’s own chakra or the chakra of a true Uchiha that allows you to use the jutsu on a regular basis. Danzou needed Hashirama’s cells (other than not being an Uchiha) to activate Shisui’s KOTO and b/c he had multiple sharigans, and he wanted to perform Izanagi, which needs Senju DNA.
3) There was not 10 years in between Shisui’s death and when Itachi used KOTO on himself as an Edo. My assumption is Itachi is able to use KOTO now on Kabuto/Sasuke either b/c his crow has Shisui’s chakra in it, or b/c the crow has Uchiha chakra in it in general. Itachi never had Hashirama’s cells, FYI…. SO HOW ELSE IS THE CROW ABLE TO USE KOTO ON ITACHI WITHOUT HAVING HASHIRAMA’S CELLS LIKE DANZOU???
4) Itachi tells us that Kabuto doesn’t realize the true strength of the Uchiha. He makes this comment after Kabuto tells them that their GENJUTSUS will be no effect to him. Itachi was correct in saying that “Uchiha eyes have a power able to affect the enemy regardless of their 5 senses”. This is true about Kotoamatsukami, a genjutsu that affects the MIND directly without alerting the other 5 senses. This is why Shisui was so deadly, a master of Genjutsu, and where Itachi learned his Genjutsu skills.
5) Itachi tells Sasuke that “Izanami” has already been prepared. In my opinion, he prepared “this” (KOTO) even before he went into the room with Kabuto. Everything that Kabuto is explaining to the Uchiha brothers about his powers & past is b/c of the KOTO. Kabuto is basically telling them his entire history as he knows it to be, HOW he got all of his powers, WHAT all of his powers do, and WHERE he obtained everything that he is currently possessing. All this, while continuously telling himself that he is “unstoppable”, which I’m sure makes him comfortable to tell them ALL OF HIS PLANS. This is all done by Itachi’s manipulation.
6) Itachi will use KOTO to force Kabuto to release Edo Tensei and “possibly” to change Sasuke’s mind about attacking the village. He will die with the release of the Edo and leave Kabuto’s death for Sasuke to complete. (Note: Itachi apologized after the 1st time Kabuto killed him, but he’s EDO. So why did he apologize…? I think that Itachi “might not” keep his promise to talk to Sasuke after they defeat Kabuto. I’ll be watching to see.)
(Bonus Note: I think Shisui GAVE Danzou his other eye, Danzou did NOT take it from him. Shisui also knew about the Uchiha takeover, but had the same ideals as Danzou. The Uchiha Takeover initially started when Tobi attempted to invade the village with the 9 Tails and failed; all the adult Uchiha at this time were missing, and Itachi was left to care for baby Sasuke. I believe Shisui originally was asked to carry out the task of murdering the Uchiha clan but was unable to do so. So, instead of killing the Clan, he gave both his eyes away to help this cause and quietly asked Itachi to dispose of his body. I believe Itachi used Shisui’s eye to help when he killed every Uchiha in the village. Please don’t argue this theory in the thread, just a small theory of mine, FYI.)
Last words: The reason for this thread is just an intro to WHO will be the next Hokage and WHY I believe they will become the Hokage. I had to write this 1st as a prelude. I won’t speak about this until the next thread!!!
-gHost Senju
This Thread is to illustrate the theory that Itachi LIED about using Izanami. This is his Final Lie… before dying at the hands of Kabuto by releasing Edo Tensei. I do not care at this moment to argue whether or not Izanami ACTUALLY EXISTS. I only wish to illustrate of WHY I believe he is not planning to use Izanami on Kabuto… he is actually using KOTOAMATSUKAMI.
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Kotoamatsukami: The ultimate genjutsu of the Uchiha Clan, granted by Shisui Uchiha's Mangekyō Sharingan. The technique itself allows the user to enter the opponent's mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things of their own free will. It is regarded as a genjutsu of the highest class, due to the victim being entirely unaware that they are being manipulated.
Izanami: “One” (Parenthesis mine) of the ultimate dōjutsu of the Uchiha clan. Like Izanagi, it is capable of affecting an opponent regardless of their five senses and — According to Itachi — in exchange for the temporary ability that it grants the user, the Sharingan with which Izanami is cast is sealed away and loses its light forever. This technique and Izanagi form a pair, but unlike the latter, which is a technique capable of altering destiny, Izanami is instead one that "decides" it. **********************************************************
My Theory:
At this moment, I would like to show you how this is a STRONG possibility. Itachi already told Naruto/Bee/Nagato that KOTO is the most powerful Genjutsu, ever. Not Izanami. But it is a jutsu to “decide one’s destiny” b/c in actuality you are controlling their thoughts which shapes their destiny. I also believe he may possibly use it on not only Kabuto, but also Sasuke himself. (I sort of doubt this though, b/c Itachi would have previously done this if it was his intention.)
Since Itachi’s KOTO was to “Protect Kohona” I’m sure he is FORCED to stop his brother from destroying the village mentally; Sasuke told him and Kabuto he plans to attack the village already, I don’t know how Itachi could ignore this comment under his current KOTO. Below are the (7) explanations of why I believe this to be true… so please argue individually against my Theory by listing the bullet point you disagree with; but I will not respond if you do not provide MANGA REFERENCES of why you believe I am incorrect, otherwise I will ignore.
Please post your counter arguments to my theories by addressing a specific bullet point below:
1) Itachi NEVER destroyed Shisui’s eye. Since both himself and Nagato were being controlled by Kabuto, AND Kabuto could “see” that Itachi had Shisui’s eye, he was FORCED to “act” like he destroyed it. This way, Kabuto, Tobi, Madara, or no one else would try to obtain this eye.
2) Itachi lied when he said that Shisui’s eye can only be used once every 10 years; this is only PARTIALLY correct. Shisui could perform this technique “regularly”, so what is the difference? The difference is Shisui’s chakra; its either Shisui’s own chakra or the chakra of a true Uchiha that allows you to use the jutsu on a regular basis. Danzou needed Hashirama’s cells (other than not being an Uchiha) to activate Shisui’s KOTO and b/c he had multiple sharigans, and he wanted to perform Izanagi, which needs Senju DNA.
3) There was not 10 years in between Shisui’s death and when Itachi used KOTO on himself as an Edo. My assumption is Itachi is able to use KOTO now on Kabuto/Sasuke either b/c his crow has Shisui’s chakra in it, or b/c the crow has Uchiha chakra in it in general. Itachi never had Hashirama’s cells, FYI…. SO HOW ELSE IS THE CROW ABLE TO USE KOTO ON ITACHI WITHOUT HAVING HASHIRAMA’S CELLS LIKE DANZOU???
4) Itachi tells us that Kabuto doesn’t realize the true strength of the Uchiha. He makes this comment after Kabuto tells them that their GENJUTSUS will be no effect to him. Itachi was correct in saying that “Uchiha eyes have a power able to affect the enemy regardless of their 5 senses”. This is true about Kotoamatsukami, a genjutsu that affects the MIND directly without alerting the other 5 senses. This is why Shisui was so deadly, a master of Genjutsu, and where Itachi learned his Genjutsu skills.
5) Itachi tells Sasuke that “Izanami” has already been prepared. In my opinion, he prepared “this” (KOTO) even before he went into the room with Kabuto. Everything that Kabuto is explaining to the Uchiha brothers about his powers & past is b/c of the KOTO. Kabuto is basically telling them his entire history as he knows it to be, HOW he got all of his powers, WHAT all of his powers do, and WHERE he obtained everything that he is currently possessing. All this, while continuously telling himself that he is “unstoppable”, which I’m sure makes him comfortable to tell them ALL OF HIS PLANS. This is all done by Itachi’s manipulation.
6) Itachi will use KOTO to force Kabuto to release Edo Tensei and “possibly” to change Sasuke’s mind about attacking the village. He will die with the release of the Edo and leave Kabuto’s death for Sasuke to complete. (Note: Itachi apologized after the 1st time Kabuto killed him, but he’s EDO. So why did he apologize…? I think that Itachi “might not” keep his promise to talk to Sasuke after they defeat Kabuto. I’ll be watching to see.)
(Bonus Note: I think Shisui GAVE Danzou his other eye, Danzou did NOT take it from him. Shisui also knew about the Uchiha takeover, but had the same ideals as Danzou. The Uchiha Takeover initially started when Tobi attempted to invade the village with the 9 Tails and failed; all the adult Uchiha at this time were missing, and Itachi was left to care for baby Sasuke. I believe Shisui originally was asked to carry out the task of murdering the Uchiha clan but was unable to do so. So, instead of killing the Clan, he gave both his eyes away to help this cause and quietly asked Itachi to dispose of his body. I believe Itachi used Shisui’s eye to help when he killed every Uchiha in the village. Please don’t argue this theory in the thread, just a small theory of mine, FYI.)
Last words: The reason for this thread is just an intro to WHO will be the next Hokage and WHY I believe they will become the Hokage. I had to write this 1st as a prelude. I won’t speak about this until the next thread!!!
-gHost Senju
