[Predictions] It seems..too easy...Final Villain prediction

[SkyGodHorus]

Everyone appears to be jumping to conclusions and believes that Kaguya will be the one to take over Madara and resurface, but they are forgetting many things. Kishimoto is great when it comes to plot twists in my opinion, and even those you cannot see coming are often foreshadowed. This was even the case for Totsuka blade, susano'o and yata mirror who follow a straight line in shinto mythology after Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu.

People are forgetting several other mysterious figures.

Shisui, whose death was never fully elaborated outside a supposed suicide and whose body is missing.

Orochimaru whose full motives and knowledge is still unknown, who obtained and manipulated Hashirama's cells himself, who coveted the sharingan and who is in possession of a zetsu body at the moment while the other two appear to be immune to Infinite tsukuyomi. He also cursed spiral zetsu with the cursed seal of heaven and possibly injected his essence into him as he did anko and in the end, it was his advanced edo tensei and hashirama clone, used by Kabuto to revive Madara, which Madara failed to anticipate. How exactly did Kabuto obtain his remains? How did he create a poison to counter mokuton? We also still don't even know Orochimaru's lineage.

We also have Hagoromo's mysterious brother. The rivalry and Cane and Abel themes have been ever present in this series since the beginning, not just with Naruto and Sasuke, but many others. How do we know Hagoromo and his brother were always on good terms or that the brother was good in the end? We don't even know what happened to the brother, much the same as we don't know what happened to Kaguya and how she was able to return. What if Kaguya became the shinju or merged with it while the brother was sealed in the mazou?

Of course I may be overthinking things, (as I often do) but I don't believe "Kaguya's will" is enough to justify that she will be the "final villain." Madara followed her ideals, used her jutsu and followed her "will" as well.

 

[namikaze natsu]

couldn't have said it better myself

 

[Seventh Sama]

Shisui has to be dead or blind. Orochimaru is caught in MT so him being fv is out the window. When kaguya emerges she'll possibly gives us a better understanding of hago's bro.... Anyways it'd be kinda stupid if kishi pulled another plot twist next chapter....

 

[Hidari]

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This picture is all too suspicious.

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[SkyGodHorus]

Shisui has to be dead or blind.

As was Madara.

Orochimaru is caught in MT so him being fv is out the window.

Lol no. Did you see him spun up into the tree like everyone else? Did you see his dreams like everyone else's?

When kaguya emerges she'll possibly gives us a better understanding of hago's bro....

If she emerges, not when.

Anyways it'd be kinda stupid if kishi pulled another plot twist next chapter....

Being that the chapter ended on a cliffhanger, next week will be the continuation or conclusion to the same twist.

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How so?

 

[Seventh Sama]

As was Madara.



Lol no. Did you see him spun up into the tree like everyone else? Did you see his dreams like everyone else's?



If she emerges, not when.



Being that the chapter ended on a cliffhanger, next week will be the continuation or conclusion to the same twist.

....:| Oro got caught in the genjutsu along with taka and kabuto reread last chapter..... Heck ,We didn't even get to see taka or kabutos dreams either.... Even if shisui is alive he would be fodder since both of his eyes are gone.... Why can't you accept that kaguya is fv?..

 

[SamManzo]

I wish just as much as you that orochimaru would be the final villain. But, I fear kishi turned him into nothing I like Kaguya as overall main antagonist. But, it would be cool to find out Orochimaru made her eat the fruit to see how it all played out. Most likely not the case though.

 

[Hidari]

How so?

According to the Wiki, Madara is a Sensor Type, so I guess he might have scoped out his surroundings when he touched the ground. Also, Kishi doesn't create panels which don't serve a purpose. Everything he does is impactful!

 

[SkyGodHorus]

According to the Wiki, Madara is a Sensor Type, so I guess he might have scoped out his surroundings when he touched the ground. Also, Kishi doesn't create panels which don't serve a purpose. Everything he does is impactful!

Mmm, that doesn't mean much considering Black Zetsu has Kamui, but I see your point.

 

[apple pie of doom]

Orochimaru is fodder nowadays.

I think Madara takes over Kaguya.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

....:| Oro got caught in the genjutsu along with taka and kabuto reread last chapter.....

Indeed, and I like I said, I may be overthinking things. However, at the end of the day, we did not see Orochimaru strung up by the tree or is dreams. How do we know he did not shed his skin and coat his eyes as Kabuto did? Several believe even Kabuto may have resisted the genjutsu in the same manner. How do you know he did not somehow transfer a large part of his essence to the zetsus like with his curse mark? You recall the edo Hakages are Orochimaru's jutsu and they are resisting IT? You recall it was his research jutsu and development that revived Madara to his strongest? I believe you are overlooking too many things and assuming too much, but that's my opinion.

Heck ,We didn't even get to see taka or kabutos dreams either....

And there may be a relateable reason to that as well.

Even if shisui is alive he would be fodder since both of his eyes are gone....

We don't know the circumstances behind what became of his body or fate and Madara fought quite well without his eyes and even controlled the mist.

Why can't you accept that kaguya is fv?..

Because it hasn't happened yet and I like to examine all aspects and think critically before jumping to conclusions.

 

[SamManzo]

According to the Wiki, Madara is a Sensor Type, so I guess he might have scoped out his surroundings when he touched the ground. Also, Kishi doesn't create panels which don't serve a purpose. Everything he does is impactful!

Wow. True.. this could mean a whole nother twist.

 

[boshans]

I don't see how thinking Kaguya being the final villain is jumping to conclusions, this chapter confirmed it. You really think there is going to be another plot twist right after this? And it isn't even coming out of nowhere, it has been foreshadowed ever since madara absorbed the tree that Kaguya will be the fv.

And oro is caught in the IT, tobirama was looking right at them like, "dude wtf you standing there for", he's caught in it. No one can escape it, it said it penetrates even shadows, an extra eyelid of a snake isn't going to stop it. Sasuke's susanoo is the only think that stopped it.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

I don't see how thinking Kaguya being the final villain is jumping to conclusions, this chapter confirmed it.

I hasn't confirmed anything except that Black Zetsu is Kaguya's will and is taking Madara over. Madara himself followed her ideals and will and used her jutsu.

You really think there is going to be another plot twist right after this?

No, I know that we are still in the plot twist being that it was left on a cliffhanger and that it is not over yet. If it is definitely Kaguya, why not just show her in this chapter rather than leave it on a cliffhanger?

And it isn't even coming out of nowhere, it has been foreshadowed ever since madara absorbed the tree that Kaguya will be the fv.

Indeed, and it's happened being that we saw her face cast IT and Black Zetsu stating he follows her will, but that does not mean no one else was in on it.

And oro is caught in the IT, tobirama was looking right at them like, "dude wtf you standing there for", he's caught in it. No one can escape it, it said it penetrates even shadows,

Eye lids are not shadows and both black zetsu and spiral zetsu are uneffected by it as is the Kamui sharingan. We also did not see Orochimaru spun up into the tree or his dreams. Are you aware his edo tensei is resisting it and that he is currently possessing a zetsu?

an extra eyelid of a snake isn't going to stop it.

Prove it. There is also no proof that Naruto cannot resist it even though he possesses an outside source of energy from senjutsu as well as all the bijuus to keep his chakra disrupted.

Sasuke's susanoo is the only think that stopped it.

No, edo tensei also resisted it.

 

[boshans]

Bee is caught in it, he has a bijuu, Narutos bijuu wouldn't be able to wake him up either. Oro already had rinnegan eyes, he is caught in it. Not one person was able to move with the rinnegan eyes, and they all got caught in the tree. Oro is caught, face the damn facts. And yes black zetsu is there, because he is Kaguya/madara... the IT didn't effect real madara, why would It effect zetsu, who has the person who made the jutsu inside of it.

Also, all zetsu is is a mass of goo that is the will of Kaguya, it doesn't have a physical real body, and Obito is probably dead, so IT doesn't take over his dead body, which is most likely the reason it doesn't effect the Edos either, because they're dead. They didn't resist it, it just never effected them in the first place, no one can resist it.

 

[apple pie of doom]

Madara probably surpresses her and gets even more powerfull.
I mean, it would be out of character for Madara to be possessed and not having it planned.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Bee is caught in it, he has a bijuu,

Did you see his eyes? Did you see him spun up in the tree? Nope.

Narutos bijuu wouldn't be able to wake him up either.

Prove it.

Oro already had rinnegan eyes, he is caught in it. Not one person was able to move with the rinnegan eyes, and they all got caught in the tree.

Orochimau has several plausible ways to break free as I already elaborated. You ignoring them and going in circles to get the last word doesn't change that.

Oro is caught, face the damn facts.

I didn't see him spun up in the tree and I didn't see him dreams so no, it is not a fact to me.

And yes black zetsu is there, because he is Kaguya/madara... the IT didn't effect real madara, why would It effect zetsu, who has the person who made the jutsu inside of it.

So you're admitting it shouldn't effect white zetsu?

Also, all zetsu is is a mass of goo that is the will of Kaguya, it doesn't have a physical real body, and Obito is probably dead, so IT doesn't take over his dead body, which is most likely the reason it doesn't effect the Edos either, because they're dead.

Wrong. All the zetsus are composed of Hashirama's cells and the the gedo mazou's chakra.

They didn't resist it, it just never effected them in the first place, no one can resist it.

So then by your logic, Orochimaru can break out because his zetsu body cannot be effected by it.