What legends did he surpass please list them. And you forget that Naruto has kurama which gives him a shit load of chakra.
No lol I was AFK doing something else. I don't actually camp thread i make. I make a few posts and let people take out whatever they want from it. I can't really change anyone's mind, just put out my perspective.
Anyway @Your post about soloing my own thread. That's actually untrue unless you believe those battles were enough to take him from pre shippuuden to now. Battling and training is different. In battle you get battle knowledge and some better skills, but you can't really train your skills since you're not consistently practicing it over and over to hone the skills. All you're doing is using what you know to get battle tact. There's a reason people train years upon years before going into battle instead of just getting minimal training and tossed into battle. Sure, first hand experience is good, but when you practice certain things on your own, you can get more progression (Running, Strength training, Fighting techniques, etc). You can't really practice new techniques mid fight.
Naruto was way above Sakura df are you talking about??
Sakura didn't parr shit even current Sakura gets fodderized by Tsunade.
Lol, way above. Ok then. Naruto was on the level of the rest of K11 at that point. Not because he learn Rasenshuriken a
bunch of chapters later means he wasn't on their level.
Sakura isn't on par with tsunade? Katsuya, Tsunade level medical ninjutsu, tsunade or better level antipoison mastery? All sakura's missing is Byakugo which she most likely has considering it's simply a matter of releasing the Yin seal which is on her forhead. Not my fault if you don't want to believe sakura has parred if not surpassed her sannin also
Your last passage makes no sense. Being a prodigy has nothing to do with what era you grew up in, some people are just born naturally stronger than others. FYI, itachi didn't experience war, he only saw war when he was 4. A 4 year old wouldn't fight in a war, yet he grew up to be a gem among the powerful uchiha clan. 3tomoe sasuke Parring with Itachi, who mastered his sharingan at 8, after 3 years of first unlocking his 1/2 tomoe Sharingan doesn't make sense no matter how you slice it.
@Kirikoe
You completely and utterly missed the point anyway. Jiraiya trained for years with the toads and on SM, but could never perfect it. Naruto came in for 1 week to 1 month with 4 shadow clones, decreasing time by 1/4. Therefore, naruto essentially had 1-4 months of SM training and he perfected it on the level of hashirama who's been in war from childhood. If that makes sense to you, then ok.
Shadow clones were used for rasengan mostly. I'm not talking about rasengan progression, that's understandable. After that one off, he barely used clones ever again to train. If he did when he was training with jiraiya, then his progression was pitiful. I also forgot to mention the chapter (when he was training Rasenshuriken) where it's sad naruto should suffer Shadow clone whiplash. That was completely thrown out the door the second he learnt Rasenshuriken. All that ontop of naruto being consistently called an idiot by the author.
As for the Sasuke and itachi thing. Sickness has nothing to do with the scan I showed you. Itachi's sickness didn't beat him down that bad that his skills were so terrible. A few chapters before Kakashi and naruto were needed to take on itachi, and itachi also completely disgraced naruto. Ontop of the fact that Sasuke got strong enough to take on the new K11, it's clear that he was just very strong by this point. Itachi's sickness only hit him hard once he opened up his MS moves, which happened after the scan I showed you. Not even counting Sasuke countering Itachi's Genjutsu's...
Your next point about orochimaru is pretty useless as orochimaru didn't teach sasuke anything from his moveset. All sasuke got off oro was some Refinement of his techniques, A cm that sucked his chakra, and orochimaru's skills (body replacement, shadow sleeve snakes)
after he absorbed him. None of Which increases
base sasuke's strength, speed, ninjutsu, kenjutsu, etc. Which was pretty parred with itachi. The only drawback sasuke had from itachi at that point was literally shadow clone jutsu, jutsu execution speed, and intelligence.
Umm... MS sasuke is infact on itachi's level. Especially danzo arc Sasuke. As for your point about recklessly, that's completely and utterly foolish a point to make. Sasuke's technically a genin, and after fighting Itachi. He was thrust into fighting a perfect jin, then 4 kage, then a hokage, then Kakashi. Are you saying that eeven itachi would go through this gauntlet without having to resort to his MS? Don't be foolish. Unlike itachi, sasuke never had a break to get the hang of his MS before he was forced to use it. As for MS mastery, that's debateable seeing as sasuke had better amaterasu mastery and later attained CS... Clearly itachi would have some better mastery during his time when he had MS for 10+ years while sasuke had it for, what, 2 weeks...?