It is too bad we never saw Naruto fight without any Bijuu

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For a Naruto fan you're pretty sadistic, Michael. Naruto would have died vs Haku, would have been killed by Orochimaru's snake, would have been defeated by Neji, killed by Gaara, would have been missing a lung after his VOTE1 fight with Sasuke, captured and killed by Pain, irrelevant in the war arc, killed by Sasuke at VOTE 2 without Kurama.
I mean, when you get the second most potent chakra entity in the world sealed into you as a separate powerup from birth which automatically gives your chakra pools around the same as the most powerful Hokage that ever existed and made u stronger than everyone who actually worked very hard to advance their abilities by the age of 12, you can't really expect the guy to live the rest of his life depending on his own power.
 
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For a Naruto fan you're pretty sadistic, Michael. Naruto would have died vs Haku, would have been killed by Orochimaru's snake, would have been defeated by Neji, killed by Gaara, would have been missing a lung after his VOTE1 fight with Sasuke, captured and killed by Pain, irrelevant in the war arc, killed by Sasuke at VOTE 2 without Kurama.
Before I start I want to clarify Me and Michael are different member.

I didn't mean Naruto never getting Kurama since part 1, I mean when Madara capture Kurama in the war. Instead of Naruto falling uncousins it would of been better to see him fight, just like Kushina was able to help Minato fight Kurama.

That would of made Naruto seem more epic, then get Kurama back to survive.
 

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I mean, when you get the second most potent chakra entity in the world sealed into you as a separate powerup from birth which automatically gives your chakra pools around the same as the most powerful Hokage that ever existed and made u stronger than everyone who actually worked very hard to advance their abilities by the age of 12, you can't really expect the guy to live the rest of his life depending on his own power.
The Juubi was not alive at the time so...which would be the first most powerful? Just curious.
 

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What is that even supposed to mean?
You said the second most potent chakra entity in the world sealed into you as a separate powerup from birth which automatically gives your chakra pools around the same as the most powerful Hokage that ever existed. The Juubi was not around by the time of Naruto's birth, so I was curious as to what would be the first.
 

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You said the second most potent chakra entity in the world sealed into you as a separate powerup from birth which automatically gives your chakra pools around the same as the most powerful Hokage that ever existed. The Juubi was not around by the time of Naruto's birth, so I was curious as to what would be the first.
Lol.... Very nice...
 

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You said the second most potent chakra entity in the world sealed into you as a separate powerup from birth which automatically gives your chakra pools around the same as the most powerful Hokage that ever existed. The Juubi was not around by the time of Naruto's birth, so I was curious as to what would be the first.

There's no difference between Kurama being the second most potent chakra entity in the world (because he is)
and Kurama being the most potent chakra entity in the world at that time.


Red is what I'm saying, blue is what you're saying.
 
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There's no difference between Kurama being the second most potent chakra entity in the world (because he is)
and Kurama being the most potent chakra entity in the world at that time.


Red is what I'm saying, blue is what you're saying.
There is a difference though.

You said the second most powerful in the world, which currently would already be untrue seeing as Naruto and Sasuke are way past Bijuu level at this point. At the time its untrue because there was no Juubi yet. Overall its untrue because of multiple creatures and people along history. I presumed you'd argue someone else's case, but I'm not really sure whose seeing as none of the Ootsusuki were "in the world" at the time.
 

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There is a difference though.

You said the second most powerful in the world, which currently would already be untrue seeing as Naruto and Sasuke are way past Bijuu level at this point. At the time its untrue because there was no Juubi yet. Overall its untrue because of multiple creatures and people along history. I presumed you'd argue someone else's case, but I'm not really sure whose seeing as none of the Ootsusuki were "in the world" at the time.
You keep jumping between timelines for no reason. Here's the break down. Chakra entity wise, in the Naruto world:

#1) Juubi
#2) Biggest portion of the Juubi's chakra, Kurama.

How can Naruto and Sasuke be passed Bijuu level when the former's power and chakra is at it's current high because of the Bijuu's and the latter's chakra is not above the Bijuu's.
 

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Take it away and give Naruto back all the years he spent trying to control it's power. (A chunk of that is the 3 years he spent with Jiraiya).

Basically Kurama 'is' Naruto's power. He's worked for every bit of it.

In part 1, Kurama was more of a hindrance than help.

Without it, Naruto would learn more jutsu's, use his second affinity next to wind, and be much more skilled/refined. A prodigy if you will. Chances are he'd handle the villains he faced in part 1 bar Oro, with ease.

Naruto would still wreck. :win:
 
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I mean there was a chance to get to see Naruto fight without being a Jinchuuriki when Madara sealed Kurama, too bad we didn't see any action from Naruto.

When Kushina lost Kurama she was able to use jutsu to keep Kurama with chains.

When Obito did Rinne Tensei and lost the Juubi we got to see him fight without the Juubi. We saw him fight without being a Jinchuuriki.

Madara we saw him fight without being a Jinchuuriki and being a Jinchuuriki of the Juubi.

Kishi just didn't want to give Naruto any fight without being a Jinchuuriki.
Kushina is full blood Uzumaki and that is part of their power their durability that's why they were chose as bijuu hosts or hosts for the kyuubi naruto however is only half Uzumaki thus making his durability and lifeforce watered down...


Secondly, after obito lost the bijuu and was not the juubi Jin anymore he still retain some bijuu chakra I forgot which specific ones but even madara said so that Obito still had some residual six paths senjutsu and bz kept obito alive....you forgot that they, you forgot obito was only able to fight afterwards due to black Zetsu keeping him alive...

Madara wasn't implanted with the bijuu minutes after he was just born like naruto was
 
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Unless you're a bitter Sasuke fanboy, why would you ever want to see this?
The answer is simple Kushina even without being a Jin because Obito stripped Kurama from her, she shown just how tough and strong she is and that is very high.

This isn't a character hate or like, it is so we have a character feat that is all.

We have feat what Kushina, Obito and Madara can do without being Jinchuuriki, while Naruto has no feat except for his battle with Kiba.
 

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>Sausage fappers still dont get that all chakra, bijuu, doujutsu comes from Juubi aka strongest bijuu
Kushina is full blood Uzumaki and that is part of their power their durability that's why they were chose as bijuu hosts or hosts for the kyuubi naruto however is only half Uzumaki thus making his durability and lifeforce watered down...
Youre wrong. Kushina was choosen as Kyuubi host because of her special chakra that Naruto inherited.
 
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>2016
>Sausage fappers still dont get that all chakra, bijuu, doujutsu comes from Juubi aka strongest bijuu
Youre wrong. Kushina was choosen as Kyuubi host because of her special chakra that Naruto inherited.
Hmm if it true all chakra and dojutsu comes from the juubi, how come Kaguya pre Juubi fruit has Byakugan?

How did all the Ootsutsuki have KKG along with chakra if they received no chakra or no connection from the Juubi fruit? If I am not mistaken their clan KKG are the byakugan like the hyuga.

Kaguya traveled to earth without eating any fruit, so her chakra must be high.

As for Kushina she shown awesome feat without being a Jinchuuriki, although as a Jin she has 0 feat.
 

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Hmm if it true all chakra and dojutsu comes from the juubi, how come Kaguya pre Juubi fruit has Byakugan?

How did all the Ootsutsuki have KKG along with chakra if they received no chakra or no connection from the Juubi fruit? If I am not mistaken their clan KKG are the byakugan like the hyuga.

Kaguya traveled to earth without eating any fruit, so her chakra must be high.

As for Kushina she shown awesome feat without being a Jinchuuriki, although as a Jin she has 0 feat.
 
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