Isshin Kurosaki uses getsuga tenshou.!

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as a result from nearly becoming a hollow while having his Shinigami powers restored Ichigo's inner hollow was born so even tho ichigo, isshin, and hollow ichigo can use getusga tensho's they all differ in color, and damage from what we all no while zangetsu its in normal constant shikai from ichigo's getusga tensho is blue and resembles a cresent moon but while in banki its color changes to black with a red outline but ichago has stated that the black getusga tensho was origally hollow ichigos technique but this kncok hollow ichago out of the picture because ichigo has mastered his hollow abilities for the time being, its hard to say whos getusga tensho is stronger because ichigo and isshin have both acheived thier banki but in the anime ichigo's black getsuga tensho has a very wide range so i guess we'll just have to wait and find out who's stronger.
but hollow ichigo's getsuga tenshou is white with red outline.... ???:eek:
 

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I would like to apologize before hand about the length of this post, but if you read it, it actually makes sense

0_0 I was watching the Bleach episode where Ichigo brought out Zangetsu for the first time, and it got me thinking, when Tessai first saw Ichigo's shikai form for Zangetsu, he was freaking out about Zangetsu. Which also leads me to another question, later in the arc when Ichigo uses Getsuga Tenshou against Renji, he flash back to Urahara telling him that knowing the name of the attack is increases the power, and when he says that, it kinda reminds me of how ichigo's initially powers up to use Getsuga Tenshou.

Which brings me to my point, I don't actually believe that Getsuga Tenshou is a zanpakutou based attack like we have been thinking. If you think about it, the basis of the attack is the compression of the users reiatsu and than by swinging Zangetsu, Ichigo is able to use that technique for offense and defense, and now we have seen that Isshin is also able to use Getsuga Tenshou and that there is even a final version of the attack. Now if Getsuga Tenshou was a normal zanpakutou attack like we see with Byakuya's Senbanzakura or Urahara's Benihime where they have attacks that are only seen with those zanpakutous. However, Getsuga Tensho has been seen by both Ichigo and Isshin. Because of this, it makes me think that Getsuga Tenshou is actually a attack that nearly anybody can use, very similar to kido spells. the catch is that someone would have to have a massive amounts of Reiatsu like Ichigo and Isshin have. I hypothesize that because of the amount of Reiatsu an attack like Getsuga Tenshou requires, the user would have to have a massive amount of reiatsu or they would quickly run out of power or would simply be unable to compress the necessary amount of reiatsu to be able to do much of anything. Another thing that makes sense with this theory is that Isshin used Getsuga Tenshou without his zanpakutou his shikai form, and since he has the ability to control his reiatsu better than Ichigo can, he might be able to keep his zanpakutou in its released form.

Now, I realize I answered my second question before my first question, only because I got carried away :p Anyways, this question should be answered in a shorter manner. My belief as to why Tessai freaked out when he first say Zangetsu, its because Isshin has a similar zanapkutou shikai and potentially even bankai, though this theory doesn't really have any actual proof unlike my previous theory. Though it has been shown that Isshin and Urahara seem to know each other and even have the abilty to fight well together, leading me to believe that they are old allies, which also means that Tessai would also know Isshin and potentially his Zanpkutou, its shikai and even its bankai form. Because of tihs potential knowledge, when Tessai saw Zangetsu for the first time, he probably mistook it for Isshin's Zanpakutou and maybe even immediately knew how powerful it and Ichigo would be.

anyways there are my two theories about Getsuga Tenshou and Isshin's ability to use that attack and also teach the final form to Ichigo
 

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I would like to apologize before hand about the length of this post, but if you read it, it actually makes sense

0_0 I was watching the Bleach episode where Ichigo brought out Zangetsu for the first time, and it got me thinking, when Tessai first saw Ichigo's shikai form for Zangetsu, he was freaking out about Zangetsu. Which also leads me to another question, later in the arc when Ichigo uses Getsuga Tenshou against Renji, he flash back to Urahara telling him that knowing the name of the attack is increases the power, and when he says that, it kinda reminds me of how ichigo's initially powers up to use Getsuga Tenshou.

Which brings me to my point, I don't actually believe that Getsuga Tenshou is a zanpakutou based attack like we have been thinking. If you think about it, the basis of the attack is the compression of the users reiatsu and than by swinging Zangetsu, Ichigo is able to use that technique for offense and defense, and now we have seen that Isshin is also able to use Getsuga Tenshou and that there is even a final version of the attack. Now if Getsuga Tenshou was a normal zanpakutou attack like we see with Byakuya's Senbanzakura or Urahara's Benihime where they have attacks that are only seen with those zanpakutous. However, Getsuga Tensho has been seen by both Ichigo and Isshin. Because of this, it makes me think that Getsuga Tenshou is actually a attack that nearly anybody can use, very similar to kido spells. the catch is that someone would have to have a massive amounts of Reiatsu like Ichigo and Isshin have. I hypothesize that because of the amount of Reiatsu an attack like Getsuga Tenshou requires, the user would have to have a massive amount of reiatsu or they would quickly run out of power or would simply be unable to compress the necessary amount of reiatsu to be able to do much of anything. Another thing that makes sense with this theory is that Isshin used Getsuga Tenshou without his zanpakutou his shikai form, and since he has the ability to control his reiatsu better than Ichigo can, he might be able to keep his zanpakutou in its released form.

Now, I realize I answered my second question before my first question, only because I got carried away :p Anyways, this question should be answered in a shorter manner. My belief as to why Tessai freaked out when he first say Zangetsu, its because Isshin has a similar zanapkutou shikai and potentially even bankai, though this theory doesn't really have any actual proof unlike my previous theory. Though it has been shown that Isshin and Urahara seem to know each other and even have the abilty to fight well together, leading me to believe that they are old allies, which also means that Tessai would also know Isshin and potentially his Zanpkutou, its shikai and even its bankai form. Because of tihs potential knowledge, when Tessai saw Zangetsu for the first time, he probably mistook it for Isshin's Zanpakutou and maybe even immediately knew how powerful it and Ichigo would be.

anyways there are my two theories about Getsuga Tenshou and Isshin's ability to use that attack and also teach the final form to Ichigo


hey uhm...awkward question, but who is tessai? is it not ichigo's zanpakutou?
please tell me....
 

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Hmm, I just wish they'd give Ichigo new techniques. Gestsuga Tenshou is already old, it's been used over a million times already.

Somehow the "Final Getsuga Tenshou" doesn't pique my interest that much.

Well, whatever it takes to kill off Aizen from the manga, no matter how lame it is. As long as Aizen's dead after the arc, I'll be happy. This whole Aizen = God thing is really getting on my nerves already.

Just kill the damn villain already... or at least make him the protagonist.

Aizen has more fame and screen time than Ichigo does. -_-
 

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I would like to apologize before hand about the length of this post, but if you read it, it actually makes sense

0_0 I was watching the Bleach episode where Ichigo brought out Zangetsu for the first time, and it got me thinking, when Tessai first saw Ichigo's shikai form for Zangetsu, he was freaking out about Zangetsu. Which also leads me to another question, later in the arc when Ichigo uses Getsuga Tenshou against Renji, he flash back to Urahara telling him that knowing the name of the attack is increases the power, and when he says that, it kinda reminds me of how ichigo's initially powers up to use Getsuga Tenshou.

Which brings me to my point, I don't actually believe that Getsuga Tenshou is a zanpakutou based attack like we have been thinking. If you think about it, the basis of the attack is the compression of the users reiatsu and than by swinging Zangetsu, Ichigo is able to use that technique for offense and defense, and now we have seen that Isshin is also able to use Getsuga Tenshou and that there is even a final version of the attack. Now if Getsuga Tenshou was a normal zanpakutou attack like we see with Byakuya's Senbanzakura or Urahara's Benihime where they have attacks that are only seen with those zanpakutous. However, Getsuga Tensho has been seen by both Ichigo and Isshin. Because of this, it makes me think that Getsuga Tenshou is actually a attack that nearly anybody can use, very similar to kido spells. the catch is that someone would have to have a massive amounts of Reiatsu like Ichigo and Isshin have. I hypothesize that because of the amount of Reiatsu an attack like Getsuga Tenshou requires, the user would have to have a massive amount of reiatsu or they would quickly run out of power or would simply be unable to compress the necessary amount of reiatsu to be able to do much of anything. Another thing that makes sense with this theory is that Isshin used Getsuga Tenshou without his zanpakutou his shikai form, and since he has the ability to control his reiatsu better than Ichigo can, he might be able to keep his zanpakutou in its released form.

Now, I realize I answered my second question before my first question, only because I got carried away :p Anyways, this question should be answered in a shorter manner. My belief as to why Tessai freaked out when he first say Zangetsu, its because Isshin has a similar zanapkutou shikai and potentially even bankai, though this theory doesn't really have any actual proof unlike my previous theory. Though it has been shown that Isshin and Urahara seem to know each other and even have the abilty to fight well together, leading me to believe that they are old allies, which also means that Tessai would also know Isshin and potentially his Zanpkutou, its shikai and even its bankai form. Because of tihs potential knowledge, when Tessai saw Zangetsu for the first time, he probably mistook it for Isshin's Zanpakutou and maybe even immediately knew how powerful it and Ichigo would be.

anyways there are my two theories about Getsuga Tenshou and Isshin's ability to use that attack and also teach the final form to Ichigo
Meh, I don't think Getsuga Tenshou is a non-Zanpakuto ability. Getsuga Tenshou literally translates to "Moon Fang Heaven-Piercer", and Zangetsu literally translates to "Slaying Moon". So there's obviously a "Moon" thing going on with Ichigo's Zanpakuto. It would be too big of a coincidence for Getsuga Tenshou and Zangetsu to both have to do with the concept of the "Moon", and not be related to each other in any way.

You're probably right about Ichigo's and Isshin's Zanpakutos being similar to each other. It really just makes intuitive sense, and with Tessai's reaction, there's logical backing to it.

Also, Isshin could have used Getsuga Tenshou in his Shikai form. Like Ichigo, his Zanpakuto could constantly be in Shikai form, though it would also make sense for him to be able to seal his Zanpakuto with his better Reiatsu control.

Isshin and Ichigo are father and son, so it makes sense for their souls to be similar, and therefore for their Zanpakutos and Zanpakuto abilities to be similar.
 

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hey uhm...awkward question, but who is tessai? is it not ichigo's zanpakutou?
please tell me....
Zangetsu is Ichigo's zanpakutou...

Tessai is Urahara's right hand man
hrrrmmm who is tessai? oO
see above
Meh, I don't think Getsuga Tenshou is a non-Zanpakuto ability. Getsuga Tenshou literally translates to "Moon Fang Heaven-Piercer", and Zangetsu literally translates to "Slaying Moon". So there's obviously a "Moon" thing going on with Ichigo's Zanpakuto. It would be too big of a coincidence for Getsuga Tenshou and Zangetsu to both have to do with the concept of the "Moon", and not be related to each other in any way.

You're probably right about Ichigo's and Isshin's Zanpakutos being similar to each other. It really just makes intuitive sense, and with Tessai's reaction, there's logical backing to it.

Also, Isshin could have used Getsuga Tenshou in his Shikai form. Like Ichigo, his Zanpakuto could constantly be in Shikai form, though it would also make sense for him to be able to seal his Zanpakuto with his better Reiatsu control.

Isshin and Ichigo are father and son, so it makes sense for their souls to be similar, and therefore for their Zanpakutos and Zanpakuto abilities to be similar.
thats certainly part of my thought as to why Isshin can use Getsuga Tenshou effectively like that, but if its a purly zanpakutou based attack than he shouldn't be able to use it because it is Zangetsu's zanpakutou attack and Soul Society cannon shows that two zanpakutou's can't be the same or have the same attacks. Which is why I think that its purely reiatsu based and requires a lot of reiatsu to perform
 
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