[Discussion] Israel and Gaza

[nightwolf888]

it's funny how ppl can suddnly move in and take over a land someonelse livesin just because some country said it okay even though they really don't have the authorty to do so

 

[Tobi98]

it's funny how ppl can suddnly move in and take over a land someonelse livesin just because some country said it okay even though they really don't have the authorty to do so

So it's the jews fault that England divided Palestine?

 

[bsims08]

it's funny how ppl can suddnly move in and take over a land someonelse livesin just because some country said it okay even though they really don't have the authorty to do so

Like Russia

 

[nightwolf888]

if they wanted to set up a jews a home state , they should have divied a piece a Germany for them , the palestians should not have had to pay the price for something they didn't do

 

[nightwolf888]

not a fan of russia but last i checked didn' t crimera vote to join russia? just curious

 

[Tobi98]

if they wanted to set up a jews a home state , they should have divied a piece a Germany for them , the palestians should not have had to pay the price for something they didn't do

Oh yeah the jews would really want to live in the country that tried to commit genocide to them, and they had actually divided Germany (you know the wall of Berlin)

They chose Palestine cuz it was a colonie of England, didn't have a ruller and was also was an important place for them, but it's true they didn't thought it through (though you can't really blame the jews for it either)

 

[YellowFang]

Israel is a disgrace to humanity...
Just what has Palestinians done that Israel resorted to this level of inhumane activity???

Funny thing is World's peace keepers are enjoying it...

 

[Tobi98]

Israel is a disgrace to humanity...
Just what has Palestinians done that Israel resorted to this level of inhumane activity???

Funny thing is World's peace keepers are enjoying it...

Not sure if serious... I don't know they broke all cease fires and are allways attacking?

 

[narutokage99]

The Israelis are showing the world what a brutal and racist regime they are. Murderers and thugs.

Everything Israel accuses Hamas of doing it has already done itself. They're the ones who use Palestinian children as human shields, tortures childrens and emprisoned thousands of less than 10 years kids.The facts speak for themselves and now Israel even give order to its zionists soldier to suicide if they're caught which doesn't surprise me since the Israeli army has already a reputation for killing its own soldiers and their governments members doesn't hide the fact that they want to eradicate every Palestinians mother and familly.Israel targets mostly civilians while Palestinians resistants do their ebst to resists.

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They already surpassed Nazis and admits that they targets schools, childrens,civilians and hospitals.They even sing it.

[video=youtube;h7qFACSfd_k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7qFACSfd_k[/video]

 

[Nous]

I support the habitants of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. . I support Israel, Israeli's and the Jewish population. I sympathize with both sides. However, I am firmly against Hamas and any terrorist organization which wishes to destroy a country and its people. If Hamas decides to attack Israel, I believe wholeheartedly that Israel has the right and the obligation to retaliate. Hamas being weak when compared to the Israeli Defence Force is irrelevant. A criminal with very poor shooting skills should still face consequences if he/she attempts to shoot you.


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[minato93]

Israel has nuclear weapons, Gaza doesn't. By the way, Israel's nuclear program is in violation of U.N. law but nobody cares yet Iran builds one power plant and everybody is calling them "evil".

"Intent" goes a long way. Israel has no intent to kill, everything has been self defense.
Iran already showed the "intent" to use it if they ever got it.

Actually Palestine wasn't a country at the time, so there wasn't really any culture orlaws, they just had to leave the place where they lived to go to the arab side

Either way I understand why they did that but I was just saying it weren't the jews who started the violence (hell they weren't even the ones who divided it in half)

Keep educating them Bart.

CNN is the liberal news station in America so don't listen to it or Fox News if you want the real news

Actually, CNN NBC and MSNBC ABC CBS and every media outlet except Foxnews is liberal.
FoxNews is just way too conservative but thankfully they give the other side to news coverage.

 

[Tartarus]

The situation is complex and picking a single side to 100% support like its a football game is quite naive. The main reason for the blockade is to cut off Hamas from gaining any support from any other extremist factions like ISIS, which could dramatically escalate the conflict and result in WAY more blood on both sides. Although I believe Israel is being excessive in its aggression and the civilian death toll is getting ridiculous, Hamas are the ones perpetuating the conflict by hiding weapons in hospitals and schools. Any rhetoric of "freeing" Palestine is an unrealistic option. I'll agree that Israel was established via shady means but people have raised their families and children there, its their home. You can't go back at this point. Not to mention, even if Israel "left", it would cause a shitstorm since Arabia, Syria, and Egypt have all been eying Palestine for years and probably cause a big war. There needs to be a realistic compromise on both ends, but it won't happen until Hamas has no power to stir shit and Israel shows better treatment.

 

[~Lumos~]

As they say "A picture is worth a thousand words" If you still can't figure out which side is oppressed and who are the oppressor than you are one of those brainless sheep that Media created ...!!
Death toll: Gaza near 1500 Majority of which are innocent civilians 8,400 are wounded.
Israel Only 3 civilians and 56 soldiers

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[Wabbit]

Here is what the UN doing.

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Among the UN’s long bill of particulars against the beleaguered Jewish state comes the almost unbelievable accusation that Israel’s refusal to share its Iron Dome ballistic missile defense shield with the "governing authority" of Gaza – i.e. Hamas, the terror group created to pursue the extermination of the Jewish state and now waging war against it – constitutes a war crime against the civilians of Gaza.

The UN chairwoman criticized the U.S. for helping fund Israel's Iron Dome system which has saved countless Israeli and Palestinian lives. "No such protection has been provided to Gazans against the shelling," she said.

Just because Hamas fires rockets indiscriminately aimed at Israeli civilian population centers without provocation and fires them from within its own population centers does not “absolve” Israel from its own legal violations, Pillay told reporters Thursday.

Had Navi Pillay and the 'human rights council' been around in 1945, she would have condemned the United States for not sharing the atomic bomb with Germany and Japan.

 

[Anorien16]

As they say "A picture is worth a thousand words" If you still can't figure out which side is oppressed and who are the oppressor than you are one of those brainless sheep that Media created ...!!
Death toll: Gaza near 1500 Majority of which are innocent civilians 8,400 are wounded.
Israel Only 3 civilians and 56 soldiers

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First check if YOU got your info right. A fair few of those picture I directly recognize from the Syrian and a few other cases while others cant be distinguished.

 

[sasori345]

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First check if YOU got your info right. A fair fewof those picture I directly recognize from the Syrian and a few other cases while others cant be distinguished.

1-A fair few from Syria
2-Few other cases
3-Other can't be distinguished

You recognize pictures when it's from Syria and somewhere else (without proof) but when it's from Palestine you don't know because it can't be distinguished. Hmmm i see what you're trying to do here but nobody will buy it.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Hamas is only called an terrorist organization since the U.S is Israel's ally, Israel acts far more like an terrorist state. Israel doesn't recognize Palestine the right to exist, whilst Palestine already has recognized Israel's right, just not Hamas. If Israel really wanted to end it peacefully, they would fund Fatah, but they (won't admit it, but) Want Hamas so they have an excuse to destroy Gaza and settle there while still looking like the good guys in the world's eyes.

I wont read this thread because I dont wanna get angry with brainwashed-by-Media morons stupid @ss replies. But You all should listen to this dude , this is the only truth , and the one these m****ers are trying to hide.

 

[Jin Hayami]

Guys. Its war. Eventually Israel is going to kill off or drive out the Palestinians. Only real question is how many ceasefires are we going to see happen in between. Honestly tired of hearing about it. I feel like they should just go all out and finish it already.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Guys. Its war. Eventually Israel is going to kill off or drive out the Palestinians. Only real question is how many ceasefires are we going to see happen in between. Honestly tired of hearing about it. I feel like they should just go all out and finish it already.

Its NOT war dude . Its occupation and genocide.

 

[Jin Hayami]

Its NOT war dude . Its occupation and genocide.

Last I recall occupation was a part of war. It has to be fought somewhere. When two sides offend one another and one invades the other with the intent to kill. That's literally one of the requirements for a war.

As for it being genocide you aren't seeing Israeli soldiers literally walking down the streets gunning down every Palestinian they see. Not sure if we would be able to say the same about the Hamas led Palestine.

Sick of people calling every conflict a genocide. Literally every single conflict. "STOP THE GENOCIDE!" Then the ones who want to stop it can't be bothered to do anything to actually help. "Civilians are dying oh no!" Guess what? There is always going to be collateral damage in war. These days its a lot less intentional than it used to be. You think catapults didn't get civilians killed in the middle ages? You think there has ever been a conflict where civilians didn't die? No.

War sucks. Get over it and hope it never finds your people.