Islamic future of Europe

[Uzumaki Menma]

Don't pull the racist card on me just yet, I'm talking demographics.

Look, it's the fastest growing religion in the world. Not Christianity, not atheism, not Judaism; it's bound to cause shifts in demographics and population charts.

 

[Uzumaki Menma]

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Well, they better get used to it :bdpf:

 

[Namikun]

Look, it's the fastest growing religion in the world. Not Christianity, not atheism, not Judaism; it's bound to cause shifts in demographics and population charts.

No denying that, you're an American muslim right? How about Shariah law in the US ? Would you encourage it if the muslim population were to become bigger? Every muslim should support it after all, it's in the Quran.

 

[Uzumaki Menma]

No denying that, you're an American muslim right? How about Shariah law in the US ? Would you encourage it if the muslim population were to become bigger? Every muslim should support it after all, it's in the Quran.

In the Qur'an, it states that Muslims in a country that is not under Islamic law, must obey the laws and regulations of that nation or it is a transgression against them.

Also, it says that generations will be judged according to "the times they lived in". Sharia law was successful back in the days of the caliphate and Prophet Muhammad.

Enforcing it now seems to the rest of the world barbaric and uncivilized (although, when run correctly, it is quite an effective form of government except now people are too corrupt and prejudice).

 

[Namikun]

In the Qur'an, it states that Muslims in a country that is not under Islamic law, must obey the laws and regulations of that nation or it is a transgression against them.

Also, it says that generations will be judged according to "the times they lived in". Sharia law was successful back in the days of the caliphate and Prophet Muhammad.

Enforcing it now seems to the rest of the world barbaric and uncivilized (although, when run correctly, it is quite an effective form of government except now people are too corrupt and prejudice).

effective form when done correctly? Does this also include the stoning of gay people & persecuting minority religions?

 

[Uzumaki Menma]

effective form when done correctly? Does this also include the stoning of gay people & persecuting minority religions?

It is well known to most Muslims that the sources of the Sharia are more than the Qur'an, yet it is frequently stated that the Sharia is based upon the Qur'an which is absolutely not true.

Over time, authorities in the Middle East have used their power to subjugate Sharia and transform it into something it is not.

Homosexuality was never a crime befitted with stoning to death. In the Qur'an, it is only subject to God's digression in the afterlife.

Sahabas are the ones who agreed to attribute stoning and whipping with the act according to what the Qur'an states about homosexuality which I will list below;

Ash-Shura 25:165-166

Do you approach males among the worlds(165).And leave what your Lord has created for you as mates? But you are a people transgressing."(166)

Quran 4:16

And the two who commit it among you, dishonor them both. But if they repent and correct themselves, leave them alone. Indeed, Allah is ever Accepting of repentance and Merciful.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

Its just another stupid religion

 

[Babadook]

Homosexuality was never a crime befitted with stoning to death. In the Qur'an, it is only subject to God's digression in the afterlife.

Not in the Quran, but in the ahadeeth. Also, remember that the Quran also talks about the people of Loth. The Prophet said that whoever commits the sins of the people of Loth, are to be executed.

However, personally I think- though I must admit I'm yet to do more research on the topic- that the story is a bit misinterpreted. The people of Lot were probably not destroyed simply coz there were some homosexuals. They were engaged in all kinds of sodomy and aberrations. Now think about the Greeks.Homosexuality was an everyday thing there- but they did not altogether get a divine punishment of full destruction. So you can imagine how much worse Loth's people could have been.

Also, the punishments for homosexuality differ in the 4 main schools. In one of them, homosexuals are to be punished as fornicators/adulterers, which is probably the most logical conclusion. (In this case, the persons involved don't get punished simply for being homosexuals, but for committing adultery/fornication. Which is to be punished even if heterosexuals are involved). Also, there are scholars who actually hold the view that homosexuality is lesser of a sin than zina, and shouldn't be punished that harshly.

(Btw homosexuals are to be hated in the Bible, too. Just saying).

effective form when done correctly? Does this also include the stoning of gay people & persecuting minority religions?

What makes you think that sharia persecutes religious minorities?

 

[Transcendence]

Maybe you consider that amount large, have a walk down Paris or London and we'll talk amounts.

Per capita, there is far more relative to the populations of Canada and the United States than Paris or London. You can use the most densely populated areas of those countries; but how about the suburbs? Countrysides? I live in Toronto and Islamic people can be found just about anywhere from the outskirts of the city to even outstretched areas. Same with the US. Our countries are just fine with them and Europe should be too. It's not some foreign concept. It's just people immigrating to find a better life for their families. Much like what many Southern Europeans did in the 40's and 50's and people still continue to do so today.

 

[adeshina365]

More fear mongering from the kuffar.

You would think a secular liberal society would have no care for this...

 

[Mari Makinami]

non existing? What about chechnya-dagestan?

If you compare the size of this region with the rest of our territory, as well as compare the amount of people who live there with overall population numbers, the're really insignificant, plus only very few of people from this region actually move outta their homeland into other russian towns. That's why I said 'almost'

 

[PT1990]

Accept it. If it doesn't effect me or my family/friends negatively why should I care?​

It doesnt affect you now. But ask yourself a question: would you like to live in second Iran? Becuase thats what will happen when muslims will be in majority.

Well, they better get used to it :bdpf:

No. They should deport muslims who are unable to assimilate. But western politicians are too soft and too stupid to do that.

 

[Cloudbuster]

I dislike all organized religion.
They were/are the source of most bad things in this world.