ISIS and India/middle east/pakistan take over

[KingHashirama]

Damn idk how i got into these, but this seems like an interesting topic to discuss.

Here is a little article of what i'm talking about:

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Now, another worry for this would be Pakistan, who is also a muslim country, and has been having some "highly vocal" people who are attempting to attack the Kashmir area.

X_X. So lets say they do conquer all the way up to india, and all the conquered countries do plan an attack on india, while the European/American countries don't interfere... Will we possibly get a China + Indian alliance..?

Also, another possible threat to civil unrest in india can be the "khalistan" supporters, which can be raised easily by having muslims disguise as Sikhs (happened in the past already. ). SO whats your opinion on this topic?


Will the european/american countries interfere? Or will this be a simple asian incident?

 

[Anorien16]

India was kinda already targeted by the ISIS by proxy no? Its no surprise they wld try to attack eventually if they can ....

IMO even if India might have allies it has to prepare like no one is going to help them. Its better that way. Still I would dont fret much yet ... they fight themselves more than they do with others, eventually their own Muslim brother will rise against them.

What more worrisome is that how effective their propaganda is to their target audience .... thousands was killed in Iraq, Syria by Extremists but all the blame goes to Western countries ... yes the Western Countries is not innocent flowers, but the one's who is pulling the trigger has choice and every kinda glosses over that ..... even in Pakistan the Extremists blow up their own people while they are crying over Gaza .... even social networking trends are full of propaganda, every sympathetic bleeding hearts are going #prayforGazaPalestine but none of these morons are actually doing anything like gathering funds for some food,water and medicine delivery or even rescue of the women and children to temporary safe camps in friendly countries. This all looks like a elaborate campaign to me.

Also in China there is sudden rise of their Nationalism too .... so unexpected thing might actually happen.

 

[HiraishinFTG]

ISIS is the "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria". Do you know how far removed India is for a semi-regional group that are struggling to maintain their hold on two broken countries? India or Pakistan would annihilate ISIS if they made any attack or campaign on their country. India and Pakistan are both nuclear-armed countries with sizeable militaries, are much larger, more developed, and more populated than Iraq and Syria.

Oh, that and the fact that China and America would actually unite in this circumstance (I know right?) to smash ISIS if India was having trouble.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Lol we're funding the India space program.

What a shithole

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

America is China's ***** because of how much in debt we are to them. They told us not to interfere and we didn't, whatever they say goes honestly.

IF it wasn't for them having our balls in a vice grip we would probably help India. But I honestly don't think ISIS will last much longer.

 

[YellowFang]

I think China would never side with India...

 

[KingHashirama]

India was kinda already targeted by the ISIS by proxy no? Its no surprise they wld try to attack eventually if they can ....

IMO even if India might have allies it has to prepare like no one is going to help them. Its better that way. Still I would dont fret much yet ... they fight themselves more than they do with others, eventually their own Muslim brother will rise against them.

What more worrisome is that how effective their propaganda is to their target audience .... thousands was killed in Iraq, Syria by Extremists but all the blame goes to Western countries ... yes the Western Countries is not innocent flowers, but the one's who is pulling the trigger has choice and every kinda glosses over that ..... even in Pakistan the Extremists blow up their own people while they are crying over Gaza .... even social networking trends are full of propaganda, every sympathetic bleeding hearts are going #prayforGazaPalestine but none of these morons are actually doing anything like gathering funds for some food,water and medicine delivery or even rescue of the women and children to temporary safe camps in friendly countries. This all looks like a elaborate campaign to me.

Also in China there is sudden rise of their Nationalism too .... so unexpected thing might actually happen.

I predict india and china to come out as the 2 big powerhouses in the next 50 years. But india really does need a good leader.

 

[Avani]

Lol we're funding the India space program.

What a shithole

What an ignorant post! Please do not spam the thread with your off topic crap.

USA tried to sell cryogenic engine to India, which USSR provided on much cheaper rate. The result being USA arm twisting Russia in cancelling the deal.

US firm General Dynamics offered first at a high price, and so did the French. It was then that Russia, which was going through difficult times, offered it at a reasonable price. India signed a deal in 1991 for two engines and the technology.

Everything looked good, but soon wasn't. The Americans pressurised the Russians into reneging on the deal, saying its engines will be used for nuclear missiles.

ISRO would get the engines but not the technology. UR Rao went to talk to the Americans, and to tell them something that everybody knew: cryogenic engines cannot be used in a missile. But the US had strong commercial interests in denying India the technology. Rao's meeting with vice-president Al Gore was futile.

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If we had paid up USA's ridiculously high prices there would have no problems. But otherwise they threw in a wrench. That's how they "helped in our space program".

 

[The Work]

They probably already invaded America since our borders are open to illegal immigrants.

 

[vasu 32]

We are waiting...

Btw, we are more than capable enough to defend ourselves. It will be their last mistake if they ever attack us.

 

[N o i r]

I would prefer if America stopped interfering and let them deal with their own crap. I do fear for the innocent but having our own dying for their affairs?
America always gets shit for the "horrible things" we do and get shit from always getting in between. Well, stop asking for help and America stop trying to help. Being in pointless wars, wasting millions just to get shit talk and as I said, young soldiers dying thanks to this. Can't they stop with the damn violence and sit down like civil people for once and talk about their issues? I guess no. Smh, Paki you're doing it wrong.

 

[Avani]

I would prefer if America stopped interfering and let them deal with their own crap. I do fear for the innocent but having our own dying for their affairs?
America always gets shit for the "horrible things" we do and get shit from always getting in between. Well, stop asking for help and America stop trying to help. Being in pointless wars, wasting millions just to get shit talk and as I said, young soldiers dying thanks to this. Can't they stop with the damn violence and sit down like civil people for once and talk about their issues? I guess no. Smh, Paki you're doing it wrong.

India is not likely to ask for American help that fast. America never really helped all that much- the problem with USA is that it helps out the people causing the problems in the region. Hell it even issued nuclear threat to India( constant nuclear blackmail during 70-90) twice while India never invaded any country and fought only in defense.

We have really bad experiences with international helps. Asking for help from UN back in late 40ies turned out to be detrimental to our cause because of the same mentality of the countries which actually ran it. India pulled back naively on their asking while Pakistan didn't and it only screwed the region even more. If we hadn't asked Kashmir problem would have probably resolved years ago.

Even during all that big talk to fight against terrorism Mumbai (7/11 attack)was attacked resulting in several deaths including of many tourists. Later, it turned out to be an American terrorist of Pakistani origin whom USA took away swiftly and refused to return. Later we learned they had planted him( a double agent) to get inside info from terrorists groups in Pakistan and in return he got free hand to run his own agenda in India. That's how much value America puts on the lives of Indians and interest of India.

 

[Anorien16]

I predict india and china to come out as the 2 big powerhouses in the next 50 years. But india really does need a good leader.

India can not have Good 'leader' till its inhabitants are educated (not merely literates) and fixed. There are very little patriotic feelings, true unity or sense in most people.

 

[KingHashirama]

India can not have Good 'leader' till its inhabitants are educated (not merely literates) and fixed. There are very little patriotic feelings, true unity or sense in most people.

But for people to get educated and etc, they need a leader to follow.

Im not taking dictator. I'm talking about a simple leader. With the conviction. Maybe in the nxt20 years or so india migjt see a leader like that.

I have Noticed that the current leaders do not address religious issues and etc.. but eh

 

[Anorien16]

But for people to get educated and etc, they need a leader to follow.

You have good ideas KH but you cant actually grasp the situation here .... India isnt America, people here suffer 10-20 times more than the poor of your country and thus doesnt have the luxury of considering the ideals. They would follow any path that seems to offer a more comfortable life to them and thus corrupt politicians are elected. Only way to combat this is through actually making them understand.

Im not taking dictator. I'm talking about a simple leader. With the conviction.

Actually with our democracy one man can not do shit, as soon as he goes full sensible they would lose support. (Let me tell you some funny stories: 1. The Indian Railway was running on loss, so the current government decided to hike the fares a bit, immediately there is protests that the givernment doest care for the common people ... while totally ignoring the fact that if the loss sustains then the Railway employees would be affected too and at our place the Privatization will actually cost more in practical. Like BSNL which is nearly going down the drain after privatisation in WB. 2. In our sate, there is order to open optimally priced grocery stores at every market .... but in effect there was only a handful that opened for 2-3 days. The middlement and others didnt follow the order bcos of their greed.) ..... Infact a good hearted dictator would be a better choice.

Maybe in the nxt20 years or so india migjt see a leader like that.

Sigh .... Hope is the best thing we can do.

I have Noticed that the current leaders do not address religious issues and etc.. but eh

Let that dragon be buried for now, cos no matter how they address it, it will be twisted into something abominable...... there are already some embers of dissent growing, and the Palestine scenario is trying to flame it.

 

[Wabbit]

Pak has nukes.If some organization like ISIS hits its cache world will be shitting bricks.
Are you implying India with 4th largest military cant protect itself and has to beg west or China for support?
Only crazy ppl think India and China would be allys.Chinese will never ally with India,they might as well as ask to give up their claimed parts and kill all those Tibetans who are in refuge.US wont interfere if it is about pak as it as an ally of Pak. Nevertheless India has no reason to have a cozy relationship with the US,there never was and they have always been an douche since cold war as India was Soviet ally but recently relationships are getting better.Their global war on terrorism is all about west they will have been and will aid any terrorists if they can advantage of them..but even with that it is shameless for a country like India to ask for support with enemies or others.

 

[Avani]

Pak has nukes.If some organization like ISIS hits its cache world will be shitting bricks.
Are you implying India with 4th largest military cant protect itself and has to beg west or China for support?
Only crazy ppl think India and China would be allys.Chinese will never ally with India,they might as well as ask to give up their claimed parts and kill all those Tibetans who are in refuge.US wont interfere if it is about pak as it as an ally of Pak. Nevertheless India has no reason to have a cozy relationship with the US,there never was and they have always been an douche since cold war as India was Soviet ally but recently relationships are getting better.Their global war on terrorism is all about west they will have been and will aid any terrorists if they can advantage of them..but even with that it is shameless for a country like India to ask for support with enemies or others.

India was not exactly Soviet alley. It was one of the Non-aligned nations.

Soviet was just more business first at times. While USA took it as personal rejection." either you are with us or against us theme"... USSR would side with China if it came down down to China VS India. Soviet is no more now but I doubt Russia's policy will change much. Their official line was " India is a friend but China is a brother".

A large part of PoK is it practically under China's control. China has also got a foot in Srilanka ( managed to get permissions for it's own set up ). We are quite surrounded by it. First and foremost we will have to work with assumption that we can rely only on ourselves.

I'm not sure the an average person in the West even realizes the amount of fight India has put in for survival in last 1000 years. It's been a constant struggle one way or another. We have lost territories and all but yea we are not dodo. It won't be easy.

 

[Sex]

Lol we're funding the India space program.

What a shithole

I heard you donated $10 to the country. How does it feel to have saved half of the inhabitants?

 

[Wabbit]

India was not exactly Soviet alley. It was one of the Non-aligned nations.

Soviet was just more business first at times. While USA took it as personal rejection." either you are with us or against us theme"... USSR would side with China if it came down down to China VS India. Soviet is no more now but I doubt Russia's policy will change much. Their official line was " India is a friend but China is a brother".

A large part of PoK is it practically under China's control. China has also got a foot in Srilanka ( managed to get permissions for it's own set up ). We are quite surrounded by it. First and foremost we will have to work with assumption that we can rely only on ourselves.

I'm not sure the an average person in the West even realizes the amount of fight India has put in for survival in last 1000 years. It's been a constant struggle one way or another. We have lost territories and all but yea we are not dodo. It won't be easy.

Non aligned movement was a crap. India signed a

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with soviets. Not exactly an ally but that is enough.Soviets had problems with Mao for sometime and USA developed relationships with China though it was for a short time. The Russia is seeking strengthen its relationship with China recently as it got ditched by west after Ukraine issue.

Pak officially gave it to China

And India has permissions in Vietnam,There are hell lot of gaps that is to be filled by India counter China.

Honestly I am not sure an average Indian cares about survival of his civilization/nation or is aware of it even if has most may not have proper knowledge to draw a conclusion over it.Every day I hope to deal with one less retard IRL but these people make me loose hope in humanity.Idk what has cursed this place or will it ever be free of it.

 

[Sherlock.]

Non aligned movement was a crap. India signed a

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with soviets. Not exactly an ally but that is enough.Soviets had problems with Mao for sometime and USA developed relationships with China though it was for a short time. The Russia is seeking strengthen its relationship with China recently as it got ditched by west after Ukraine issue.

Pak officially gave it to China

And India has permissions in Vietnam,There are hell lot of gaps that is to be filled by India counter China.

Honestly I am not sure an average Indian cares about survival of his civilization/nation or is aware of it even if has most may not have proper knowledge to draw a conclusion over it.Every day I hope to deal with one less retard IRL but these people make me loose hope in humanity.Idk what has cursed this place or will it ever be free of it.

Manusmriti struck India too hard. Its the root of most problems in India. Even though Indians don't follow it today, it has done a lot of damage to this country and we are still not over its effects.