[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

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[PM][/PM]I'm literally done with you >_> this is getting stupid how you can't get the difference in things is beyond me...



You can't possibly tell me you are taking Buggy serious...
Why would I not he commands a lot of pirates with bounties he even had 5 giants under his command. You don't have to be the strongest to be pirate King it has been stated thousands of times the one who finds one piece is the pirate King. Recently it has been shown that you don't even have to fight and defeat the for yonkous to be pirate King you only have to find the 4 road poneglphys. The SH's even said we can just steal the copies we don't even have to fight the yonkous which made luffy disappointed because he wants to fight.
 

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If it's not on the same level then why are you comparing them and trying to use it to favor Usopp?
he's trying something and then he realize he fuked up and then he finds something else in it just for the sake to not lose the argument,same how I said the pyramid thing on Law thing and then he ignored it and started something else XD

Why would I not he commands a lot of pirates with bounties he even had 5 giants under his command. You don't have to be the strongest to be pirate King it has been stated thousands of times the one who finds one piece is the pirate King. Recently it has been shown that you don't even have to fight and defeat the for yonkous to be pirate King you only have to find the 4 road poneglphys. The SH's even said we can just steal the copies we don't even have to fight the yonkous which made luffy disappointed because he wants to fight.
Why not? Maybe 'cause he is shit and he is only there for the laughs?
 

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Just to be sure, What incident have you been referring to? (Occupied by something else to go back and check.)
When Luffy said they were gonna go find Sanji, and Zoro commanded him to forget about Sanji. Luffy made his decision, and Zoro didn't just voice his opinion, he demanded Luffy do the opposite. That's disrespecting his authority.
 

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he's trying something and then he realize he fuked up and then he finds something else in it just for the sake to not lose the argument,same how I said the pyramid thing on Law thing and then he ignored it and started something else XD



Why not? Maybe 'cause he is shit and he is only there for the laughs?

what make him shit he's a war lord and commands a large pirate syndicate. You say he's just here for laughs but luffy is comedy gold and he is the main protagonist. Buggy isn't strong but he has found a way to be very relevant and put himself in a good position in the new world to reach his goal of being pirate King. Your not Oda your saying he's just there for laughs as if you created his character oda did that and buggy has had a lot of relevancy in the story of one piece. Just because you don't like his character he is shit get off your high horse bro
 

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what make him shit he's a war lord and commands a large pirate syndicate. You say he's just here for laughs but luffy is comedy gold and he is the main protagonist. Buggy isn't strong but he has found a way to be very relevant and put himself in a good position in the new world to reach his goal of being pirate King. Your not Oda your saying he's just there for laughs as if you created his character oda did that and buggy has had a lot of relevancy in the story of one piece. Just because you don't like his character he is shit get off your high horse bro
he's a joke from Oda ffs you can't take him serious like other characters ffs
 

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he's a joke from Oda ffs you can't take him serious like other characters ffs
Why can't I take him seriously. If you can show me any where that Oda has said that buggy is a joke that I made I will stop reading one piece all together because I know that never been said. So now Oda just does things for no reason he's made buggy a war lord for a joke he's given him capable subordinates for a joke he was a member of Rogers crew for a joke that's funny coming from a guy who believes that sabo handing zoro a vivre card of luffy that he made makes him vice captain an event so small and so unimportant means so much in your eyes but making buggy a war lord and giving him a strong crew and a very relevant history means nothing and that is a joke explain that.
 

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Hey look everyone, Kin'nemon is 2nd in command because he has a team named after him, and he is on the top of a pyramid.

It all checks out.

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We can close the thread now.
 

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Hey look everyone, Kin'nemon is 2nd in command because he has a team named after him, and he is on the top of a pyramid.

It all checks out.

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We can close the thread now.
You do realize he is not in....strawhats......right? please tell me you know that?

Why can't I take him seriously. If you can show me any where that Oda has said that buggy is a joke that I made I will stop reading one piece all together because I know that never been said. So now Oda just does things for no reason he's made buggy a war lord for a joke he's given him capable subordinates for a joke he was a member of Rogers crew for a joke that's funny coming from a guy who believes that sabo handing zoro a vivre card of luffy that he made makes him vice captain an event so small and so unimportant means so much in your eyes but making buggy a war lord and giving him a strong crew and a very relevant history means nothing and that is a joke explain that.
He doesn't need to say it,you could have seen it yourself on what way he made to warlord position youself :|
 

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if the fight continued Sanji would have lost to Vergo.
Vergo already fractured Sanji's leg in this scene,after that he went for Law who was in that lab.
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one doesn't has to become unconcious to declared as loser.
For ex: Magelland lost against ID Prisoners because they escaped and he couldnot stop them.
WB crew lost to Marines because they lost their captain and 2nd commander in battle of the best
Shiki lost to Roger but he escaped from that battle wit injuries etc.


wrong haki does have a relationship wit age. Here are few examples were injured guys used Conqueror haki:
1)Luffy was seriously injured at Impel down by Magellan and he still used Conqueror haki when Mr.2 was fighting against those wolves
[video=youtube;_7Z77qIvqd8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Z77qIvqd8[/video]

2)Shanks saving Luffy despite losing an arm
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Cipher pol is different organisation. It has nothing to do wit Marines so this point is moot :p


Shiki challenged Roger at Edd war. the only reason Roger survived because shiki was injured and storm destroyed Shiki's fleet.
He later challenged both Sengoku and Garp at MF where he ultimately lost.
It doesnot matter strong world is canon or not. Oda did helped in that movie and that is the last time we are going to see shiki again.


did u forgot Mihawk is 'World Greatest/strongest Swordsman' and Shanks is also a swordsman. In swordsmanship Mihawk> Shanks. and u think Mihawk isn't admiral lvl???


U are seriously comparing Buggy wit Mihawk lmao...


why Buggy pirates???
SHs are nothing like Buggy pirates. There captain is not coward like Buggy. Luffy's crew is not weak like buggy's crew.
the only crew SHs can be compared wit will be WBs crew.
like Wb Luffy was ready to declare war on WG because they were going to execute one of the crew member.
both captains had no interest in treasures
both crew were ready to sacrifice themselves for their captain
Luffy now has commanders and armies like WB crew had.
if luffy's crew is like WB's crew then there is definately a hierarchy in SHs too.
Lmao BS. Sanjis beat mr.2 in alabasta with 8 broken rips, a slightly fractured leg is no indication of the result of the match, especially not when vergo was surpassed in terms of speed. Furthermore, the same fractured leg you're talking about had barely affected his preformance as he was blocking hits shortly aftet the "injury"
Hey look everyone, Kin'nemon is 2nd in command because he has a team named after him, and he is on the top of a pyramid.

It all checks out.

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We can close the thread now.
Yeah, I mentioned the clear similarity few pages back but all i saw was irrelevant excuses like "he is not a strawhat"
 
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When Luffy said they were gonna go find Sanji, and Zoro commanded him to forget about Sanji. Luffy made his decision, and Zoro didn't just voice his opinion, he demanded Luffy do the opposite. That's disrespecting his authority.

You're either mistaking him telling Luffy to do something with him ordering Luffy or deliberately trying to establish the actual thing into something entirely different. How could he even think about ordering Luffy when Luffy is the ultimate authority? Whatever his role in the crew may be, Zoro is not allowed to command Luffy as long as Luffy is the Captain.

Only possible options for Zoro as far as it concerns decision making are;

-Taking a decision and having it approved by the Captain. or

-Opposing Luffy's decision and leaving the crew akin to Usopp. or

-Blindly following the Captain's lead regardless of his own personal opinion. or

-Convincing the Captain to change his decision.

The 4th one of what Zoro tried to do but in a more friendly manner and he eventually choose to accept the Captain's decision regardless of his own opinion.
 

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You do realize he is not in....strawhats......right? please tell me you know that?



He doesn't need to say it,you could have seen it yourself on what way he made to warlord position youself :|
Wow I'm done with you bro because people respected him because of his past on Rogers crew and joined his crew so now he has power in number. The world government recognized the level of threat he is and made him a war lord he is a joke. But you take a fan boy like Barto spazzing out and saying to me zoro is vice captain not as a joke but a man that has achieved power and respect in the one piece world a joke. So if people achieve something easier then others they are jokes that's just sad with this logic I'm going to use it against your zoro vice captain point barto saying it was just a joke look how he said it it was obviously a joke.
 

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You're either mistaking him telling Luffy to do something with him ordering Luffy


There's no difference. Telling someone what to do is ordering them, plain and simple.
How could he even think about ordering Luffy when Luffy is the ultimate authority?

Ask the person who wrote the manga. It makes no sense for him to do so, but that's what he did in the manga whether any of us like it or not and nothing either of us post will change that.

Whatever his role in the crew may be, Zoro is not allowed to command Luffy as long as Luffy is the Captain.
And yet, that's what he tried to do.

Only possible options for Zoro as far as it concerns decision making are;

-Taking a decision and having it approved by the Captain. or

-Opposing Luffy's decision and leaving the crew akin to Usopp. or

-Blindly following the Captain's lead regardless of his own personal opinion. or

-Convincing the Captain to change his decision.

The 4th one of what Zoro tried to do but in a more friendly manner and he eventually choose to accept the Captain's decision regardless of his own opinion.
Zoro did none of those. Instead, he did the fifth option: Tried to order Luffy.
 

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Only Zoro and Usopp have disrespected HIS AUTHORITY. Goddamn, y'all can't pay attention for shit.
What's the difference from disrespecting his authority and disrespecting Luffy himself? All the SH's have disrespected Luffy at one point, so if you disrespect Luffy, you are disrespecting his position as captain.
 

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There's no difference. Telling someone what to do is ordering them, plain and simple.

It could also mean advising/informing/asking which aren't as strong as a command.


Ask the person who wrote the manga. It makes no sense for him to do so, but that's what he did in the manga whether any of us like it or not and nothing either of us post will change that.
Or Rather, It's just Riker who needs to understand the the difference b/w commanding and telling?


And yet, that's what he tried to do.

Misinterpretation.

Zoro did none of those. Instead, he did the fifth option: Tried to order Luffy.

He clearly tried to convince him.
 
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