[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

[Punk Hazard]

Implying that what is said in quotations marks has to be exactly what you said when most people use quotation marks to emphasize a point to what someone has said or done.

Yeah, you're just a dumbass.

You just said a few posts ago it applies to everything I've said in this thread fam

I put quotations around "not a big deal" to show you what you have been doing this entire time in this thread. It has nothing to do with the current argument.

You should really learn to pay attention better instead of trying to look like a smartass.

 

[Dannie]

You just said a few posts ago it applies to everything I've said in this thread fam

The "not a big deal" part was never exactly said by you, so I'm sure why you're so confused by this simple shit. Are you retarded?

You are basically trying to undermine Zoro being VC by showing other people doing close to or better than Zoro. That's why I said "not a big deal" because you are doing this everytime when someone proves that Zoro is VC material.

You don't even know how to use quotation marks or when they're used and yet you're trying to lecture me on using them, lmao. Just sit down.

 

[Punk Hazard]

The "not a big deal" part was never exactly said by you, so I'm sure why you're so confused by this simple shit. Are you retarded?

Fam...you just said it applies to everything I said...then you said it didn't apply to everything...and now you're saying the thing I said wasn't said by me? Get it together.

I put quotations around "not a big deal" to show you what you have been doing this entire time in this thread. It has nothing to do with the current argument.

You should really learn to pay attention better instead of trying to look like a smartass.

You are basically trying to undermine Zoro being VC by showing other people doing close to or better than Zoro. That's why I said "not a big deal" because you are doing this everytime when someone proves that Zoro is VC material.

So you admit that I show people doing just as good as Zoro, but you still think Zoro does better? el. oh. el.

 

[Dannie]

Fam...you just said it applies to everything I said...then you said it didn't apply to everything...and now you're saying the thing I said wasn't said by me? Get it together.

Are you really this dumb? Did I or did I not just say that "not a big deal" was not the EXACT words said by you, but what you are doing is undermining Zoro. I am trying to emphasize the "not a big deal" with the quotation marks to show you what you have been doing.

Jesus, fcking help this retard.

So you admit that I show people doing just as good as Zoro, but you still think Zoro does better? el. oh. el.

Implying that what you have been saying is right? lmao, nice try.

Usopp's speech was not better than Zoro's and you pretty much failed since that post on page one.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Are you really this dumb? Did I or did I not just say that "not a big deal" was not the EXACT words said by you, but what you are doing is undermining Zoro. I am trying to emphasize the "not a big deal" with the quotation marks to show you what you have been doing.

Jesus, fcking help this retard.

Yeah, I'm sure :Lol

Implying that what you have been saying is right? lmao, nice try.

Usopp's speech was not better than Zoro's and you pretty much failed since that post on page one.

Gotcha, the speech inspiring Luffy to get back up when he was sure-for-dead isn't as good as educating Luffy on how to be a captain. After all, I'm sure he'd be a great captain while dead.

 

[Dannie]

Gotcha, the speech inspiring Luffy to get back up when he was sure-for-dead isn't as good as educating Luffy on how to be a captain. After all, I'm sure he'd be a great captain while dead.

It's very easy to tell someone not to die. It takes a different kind of balls to tell someone how to act like a captain tho.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It's very easy to tell someone not to die. It takes a different kind of balls to tell someone how to act like a captain tho.

What does difficulty have to do with importance? It was very easy for Zoro to tell Luffy to get a grip, and how to treat Usopp.

 

[Dannie]

What does difficulty have to do with importance? It was very easy for Zoro to tell Luffy to get a grip, and how to treat Usopp.

Telling Luffy not to die wasn't important. I'm pretty sure Luffy could've figured that shit out on his on. He didn't need Usopp to tell him that, but he did need Zoro to tell him how to act when it comes to the responsibilities of being a captain.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Telling Luffy not to die wasn't important. I'm pretty sure Luffy could've figured that shit out on his on. He didn't need Usopp to tell him that, but he did need Zoro to tell him how to act when it comes to the responsibilities of being a captain.

That's the thing: Usopp didn't tell Luffy not to die, he MOTIVATED Luffy to stand up. If he hadn't performed that action, Luffy would have still been laying there. Not to mention that Usopp distracted Lucci from finishing off Luffy. Luffy already KNEW to get up, Usopp just gave him the motivation he needed to do so. That's why it's important.

 

[A v i]

So you have no grasp of how English punctuation works. Gotcha. Quite a coincidence that you used the phrasing from this convo to sum up all my convos, even ones that it doesn't apply to.

Drawing attention to the crew with an unnecessary scene while they are on a covert mission with an army, a pirate stronger than their captain, and a Navy admiral looking to attack them ISN'T messing around in a serious situation? You're serious?

Yeah, because randomly running after a fairy in disguise in country in which toys run after pets and people run after toys is going to alarm a Shichibukai and a Marine freaking admiral. By the way, Have you forgotten that they had no idea about Fujitoras identity back then?

How does this invalidate the danger? Even if they don't follow him, he's still drawing attention to them due to the fact that he was sitting and eating with them right before, and wearing the exact same kind of clothing as them.

Sanji eventually stopped following him in the end; Yet, He drew no unnecessary attention towards the crew from the enemy whatsoever. Only people who actually saw them long enough to remember their faces(in disguise)were the people at the restaurant, and most of them had not payed any attention to the crew. So, there is literally no way a random dude on a street would identify him as that guy who was eating in the near by restaurant with that group of weirdos. You're just forcing it a bit too far.

He was ignorant to the fact that a Navy Admiral was on the island as their enemy.

He endangered the crew by creating a risk for that same Admiral to be alerted to them, as well as Doflamingo and his army. Did he have a valid reason for running? Yes. But there was an even more valid reason for him NOT to run off like he did.

Yes, people were looking at them. You can see Zoro's dash out the restaurant making noise that caused people to look over at him here[

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] and he was yelling for his sword and at Sanji in the middle of a crowded plaza.

Lack of information is not ignorance. The marine Admiral as well as the Shichibukai were full aware of their movements by that time. So, they didn't learn anything new from Zoro's actions.

 

[Dannie]

That's the thing: Usopp didn't tell Luffy not to die, he MOTIVATED Luffy to stand up. If he hadn't performed that action, Luffy would have still been laying there. Not to mention that Usopp distracted Lucci from finishing off Luffy. Luffy already KNEW to get up, Usopp just gave him the motivation he needed to do so. That's why it's important.

Sure but Usopp motivating Luffy not to die could have been said by anyone, while Zoro telling Luffy how to handle Usopp is not something that EVERYONE can do.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Sure but Usopp motivating Luffy not to die could have been said by anyone, while Zoro telling Luffy how to handle Usopp is not something that EVERYONE can do.

Telling Luffy how to do his duties could be said by anyone too. Not to mention that Sanji also acted during that moment by kicking Luffy and instructing him that, as the captain, he can't think only in terms of himself and say whatever he wants recklessly.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yeah, because randomly running after a fairy in disguise in country in which toys run after pets and people run after toys is going to alarm a Shichibukai and a Marine freaking admiral. By the way, Have you forgotten that they had no idea about Fujitoras identity back then?




Sanji eventually stopped following him in the end; Yet, He drew no unnecessary attention towards the crew from the enemy whatsoever. Only people who actually saw them long enough to remember their faces(in disguise)were the people at the restaurant, and most of them had not payed any attention to the crew. So, there is literally no way a random dude on a street would identify him as that guy who was eating in the near by restaurant with that group of weirdos. You're just forcing it a bit too far.



Lack of information is not ignorance. The marine Admiral as well as the Shichibukai were full aware of their movements by that time. So, they didn't learn anything new from Zoro's actions.

ig·no·rant
ˈiɡnərənt/
adjective
lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.
"he was told constantly that he was ignorant and stupid"
synonyms: uneducated, unknowledgeable, untaught, unschooled, untutored, untrained, illiterate, unlettered, unlearned, unread, uninformed, unenlightened, benighted; More
lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.

The bolded is how Zoro fits the definition; he was ignorant to the fact that Fujitora was an Admiral that was there on Dressrosa for them.

Considering that it bring attention to Zoro, yeah, I'd say that it DOES stand out. Not to mention that Luffy and Zoro are easy identifiable through their disguises by Bartolomeo, so there's no reason Doflamingo or his goons wouldn't be able to either if Zoro had indeed run all over town looking the Fairy. The fact of the matter is, Zoro created the possibility of being caught when that possibility hadn't existed before. It ended up not happening, but Zoro created it anyway. That shows a lack of good judgement on his part at that moment.

 

[Dannie]

Telling Luffy how to do his duties could be said by anyone too. Not to mention that Sanji also acted during that moment by kicking Luffy and instructing him that, as the captain, he can't think only in terms of himself and say whatever he wants recklessly.

Not everyone has what it takes to be a leader or tell Luffy how to handle things, and I already showed times when Zoro has shown more moments of handling Luffy

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, than anyone else, but you never refuted my post so I guess I was right there.

I can probably show you even more times where Chopper or Nami cried at Luffy's safety.

 

[Anduril]

Zoro is the First-mate and the vice-captain of the strawhats, anyone who says otherwise does not read one piece.

 

[Dannie]

Zoro is the First-mate and the vice-captain of the strawhats, anyone who says otherwise does not read one piece.

It was never confirmed that Zoro is VC of the SH's.

 

[Anduril]

It was never confirmed that Zoro is VC of the SH's.

It was always implied. Though technically you are correct.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Zoro is the First-mate and the vice-captain of the strawhats, anyone who says otherwise does not read one piece.

Repeating your opinion will never make it a fact bruh. Things are the very best implied or suggested and that's what's being debated here. Nothing is blantanly given

 

[Avani]

It was never confirmed that Zoro is VC of the SH's.

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of Straw hats. So.. Either Oda didn't writer that chapter or was just wasting panels with stupid dialogues misleading people...or he confirmed it.

Zoro may have started just as an alley but after Thriller bark his character development has been more and more about turning in to first mate as demonstrated on multiple occasions. Usopp on the other hand was out of the race the moment he challenged Luffy, lost and walked out. He got back in to the crew more out of self interest and hasn't developed in to a leader that can take charge of the crew and command Zoro and rest of them in Luffy's absence. Zoro gets that role, whether he cares for the title or not.

 

[Dannie]

Urouge called Zoro first mate of Straw hats. So.. Either Oda didn't writer that chapter or was just wasting panels with stupid dialogues misleading people...or he confirmed it.

He may have started just as an alley but after Thriller bark his character development has been more and more become about turning in to first mate as demonstrated on multiple occasions. Usopp on the other hand was out of the race the moment he challenged Luffy, lost and walked out. He got back in to the crew more out of self interest and hasn't developed in to a leader that can take charge of the crew and command Zoro and rest of them in Luffy's absence. Zoro gets that role, whether he cares for the title or not.

It's probably foreshadowing.