[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

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He went to fix it and then Franky destroyed it more :| good job Usopp you did well...
This doesn't change shit. Franky destroying it more doesn't change the fact that if Usopp didn't take the ship, it never would have got to Iceberg.

well we don't know if Merry would been crushed since Merry moved at it's own till Ennies Lobby.We don't really know if Laguna would have smashed it.
We do know that if Usopp hadn't taken the ship, Franky wouldn't have pushed it into the water, and then Iceberg wouldn't have found it to fix it.

so everyone made mistakes cool...still doesn't mean Zoro can't be first mate...
That's. My. Point.

But the damage didn't happen, so it's irrelevant, lmao.
The damage DID happen...the damage was the danger that was created...

Me still being alive is much better than being heart-broken

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So you think someone setting your house on fire with you in it over a whim is better than someone who only broke your heart? Just stop, you're even less cut out for this than Loj.
 
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It isn't Zoro's fault if a Fairy thief steals his sword. And Zoro never asked any crew member to follow him nor did he ran after the fairy knowing full well what would happen if he leaves. So, Whatever the shit that happened after when he left isn't his responsibility. This is nothing more than a forced argument.
 

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This doesn't change shit. Franky destroying it more doesn't change the fact that if Usopp didn't take the ship, it never would have got to Iceberg.


We do know that if Usopp hadn't taken the ship, Franky wouldn't have pushed it into the water, and then Iceberg wouldn't have found it to fix it.


That's. My. Point.


The damage DID happen...the damage was the danger that was created...


So you think someone setting your house on fire with you in it over a whim is better than someone who only broke your heart? Just stop, you're even less cut out for this than Loj.
You fail to realize nothing happened :|

I don't remember correctly did Franky push the ship before or after Laguna?
 

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The damage DID happen...the damage was the danger that was created...
Do you know how many times the SH's have been in danger and turned out to make it out alive?

lmoa do you even One Piece dawg?

So you think someone setting your house on fire with you in it over a whim is better than someone who only broke your heart? Just stop, you're even less cut out for this than Loj.
I'm still alive so that's all that matters. If I ended up dead then you would have a point.
 

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Notice how Zoro telling Luffy to take the danger around them seriously and to make sure he doesn't goof off on Punk Hazard is pointed out as one of the things that make him vice captain. Then when Zoro does the opposite on Dressrosa, the very thing he scolded Luffy for and you all praise him for doing so, you find excuses.

It isn't Zoro's fault if a Fairy thief steals his sword.

It is, however, 100% Zoro's decision to go running and making a scene that brings attention towards them.
And Zoro never asked any crew member to follow him nor did he ran after the fairy knowing full well what would happen if he leaves.
So? Zoro being ignorant of the danger he created doesn't change the fact that the danger was created. Just a few pages ago, Sanji kicked Luffy and scolded him saying that they needed to lay low because their faces were in the paper. Zoro knew full and well making a scene and running off from the crew was the opposite of what he should have done, and he did it anyways.

So, Whatever the shit that happened after when he left isn't his responsibility. This is nothing more than a forced argument.
The danger Zoro creates is 100% his responsibility.
You fail to realize nothing happened :|
The fact that the danger was created is what holds the weight. The danger existed. Nothing happened out of LUCK.

On Punk Hazard, Zoro told Luffy to take the danger of the New World seriously, and then he does the opposite of that by making a scene during a covert mission.
I don't remember correctly did Franky push the ship before or after Laguna?
After iirc.
Do you know how many times the SH's have been in danger and turned out to make it out alive?

lmoa do you even One Piece dawg?
It doesn't change that the scope of Zoro's mistake at all tho


I'm still alive so that's all that matters. If I ended up dead then you would have a point.
Got it. Dannie logic: It's okay to burn down his house while he's inside, but don't you dare give him any bad news.
 
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Notice how Zoro telling Luffy to take the danger around them seriously and to make sure he doesn't goof off on Punk Hazard is pointed out as one of the things that make him vice captain. Then when Zoro does the opposite on Dressrosa, the very thing he scolded Luffy for and you all praise him for doing so, you find excuses.
You mean like how you can find every thing to nag about Zoro, but when someone shows you something positive you try to dismiss it as "not a big deal."

The hypocrisy is astounding.
 

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You mean like how you can find every thing to nag about Zoro, but when someone shows you something positive you try to dismiss it as "not a big deal."

The hypocrisy is astounding.
The inability to read is astounding, as I said Zoro's mistake didn't turn into a big deal. I never said anything positive he did wasn't a big deal.
 

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>Implying that I'm talking about the current argument.

Yeah, your inability to read is astounding, lml.
You put quotation marks around not a big deal to indicate it's a quote from me. This conversation is the only one where I used that phrase. Either you know jack shit about how the English language and punctuation works, or you're trying to save face with a poor excuse. You can choose which one you run with. Or, if it's neither, how about you point out what other argument I used "not a big deal" in?
 

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Oh yeah, and surely Luffy losing to Caesar Clown and "goofing off" like Zoro said, is the same thing as Zoro catching those fairies from stealing his swords and accidentally altering their plans. It isn't Zoro's fault that his swords were stolen, so using this as an argument for Usopp's departure is beyond desperate.
 

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Oh yeah, and surely Luffy losing to Caesar Clown and "goofing off" like Zoro said, is the same thing as Zoro catching those fairies from stealing his swords and accidentally altering their plans. It isn't Zoro's fault that his swords were stolen, so using this as an argument for Usopp's departure is beyond desperate.
Zoro put the crew's lives and their mission at risk because he ignored the danger around him. He yelled at Luffy and then did the same thing himself. Those are facts.

Zoro didn't choose for his sword to be taken by the fairies, but he did choose to make a scene. That's all that matters. It's the same concept of the fact that Usopp didn't choose for the Merry to be needed to be replaced, but he did choose how he reacted to that situation.
 
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You put quotation marks around not a big deal to indicate it's a quote from me. This conversation is the only one where I used that phrase. Either you know jack shit about how the English language and punctuation works, or you're trying to save face with a poor excuse. You can choose which one you run with. Or, if it's neither, how about you point out what other argument I used "not a big deal" in?
I put quotations around "not a big deal" to show you what you have been doing this entire time in this thread. It has nothing to do with the current argument.

You should really learn to pay attention better instead of trying to look like a smartass.
 

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Notice how Zoro telling Luffy to take the danger around them seriously and to make sure he doesn't goof off on Punk Hazard is pointed out as one of the things that make him vice captain. Then when Zoro does the opposite on Dressrosa, the very thing he scolded Luffy for and you all praise him for doing so, you find excuses.
Running after a belonging of his isn't same as messing around in a serious situation. Shusui is an important part of Zoro's arsenal. :yeah:


It is, however, 100% Zoro's decision to go running and making a scene that brings attention towards them.

Doesn't mean that he's inviting them to follow him.


So? Zoro being ignorant of the danger he created doesn't change the fact that the danger was created. Just a few pages ago, Sanji kicked Luffy and scolded him saying that they needed to lay low because their faces were in the paper. Zoro knew full and well making a scene and running off from the crew was the opposite of what he should have done, and he did it anyways.

He was not being ignorant nor did he endanger the crew. The events took place after when he left were all totally circumstantial and had nothing to do with him. It wasn't like he run off without a valid reason or anything. What is this scene you talk about? Zoro's chase didn't receive any kind of unwanted attention. It in fact, resulted in earning him hell lot of info on enemy movements. If anything, it was Sanjis fault for being easily fooled by Viola despite being as smart as he is, Luffys fault for not realizing Doflamingos trap and Frankys fault for not properly monitoring Luffy. Zoro did not ask them to do what they did, ergo he bears no responsibility.


The danger Zoro creates is 100% his responsibility.

The fact that the danger was created is what holds the weight. The danger existed. Nothing happened out of LUCK.

Except that he didn't create any.
 
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Oh yeah Zoro did say Luffy to get a grip...As far as I know Law also told Luffy to not do anything stupid with Doflamingo...well shit I guess Luffy is not good enough as captain since he brought everyone in danger :/ as I said...everyone makes mistakes LOL also that go get a grp from Zoro was 'cause he heared Luffy got beaten from Ceasar not 'cause he is doing Luffy stuff around...again...what you said makes no sense XD

As soon as Zoro heared Luffy got beate he said to Luffy to stop joking around since he knew Luffy is stonger than Ceasar XD "just don"t waste time and rekt him already" in that context...
 
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Zoro put the crew's lives and their mission at risk because he ignored the danger around him. He yelled at Luffy and then did the same thing himself. Those are facts.

Zoro didn't choose for his sword to be taken by the fairies, but he did choose to make a scene. That's all that matters. It's the same concept of the fact that Usopp didn't choose for the Merry to be needed to be replaced, but he did choose how he reacted to that situation.
Yeah that Zoro...last time I remembered....Luffy declared a war against whole world goverment :| bruh...What's OP without danger...
 

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Yeah that Zoro...last time I remembered....Luffy declared a war against whole world goverment :| bruh...What's OP without danger...
He just likes to bitch over irrelevant shit.

Let's count how many times Luffy has put his own crew in danger because of his stupidity.

Just Riker getting asshurt and blaming everything on Zoro.
 

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I put quotations around "not a big deal" to show you what you have been doing this entire time in this thread. It has nothing to do with the current argument.

You should really learn to pay attention better instead of trying to look like a smartass.
So you have no grasp of how English punctuation works. Gotcha. Quite a coincidence that you used the phrasing from this convo to sum up all my convos, even ones that it doesn't apply to.

Running after a belonging of his isn't same as messing around in a serious situation. Shusui is an important part of Zoro's arsenal. :yeah:
Drawing attention to the crew with an unnecessary scene while they are on a covert mission with an army, a pirate stronger than their captain, and a Navy admiral looking to attack them ISN'T messing around in a serious situation? You're serious?



Doesn't mean that he's inviting them to follow him.
How does this invalidate the danger? Even if they don't follow him, he's still drawing attention to them due to the fact that he was sitting and eating with them right before, and wearing the exact same kind of clothing as them.


He was not being ignorant nor did he endanger the crew. The events took place after when he left are all totally circumstantial and had nothing to do with him. It wasn't like he run off without a valid reason or anything. What is this scene you talk about? Zoro's chase didn't receive any kind of unwanted attention, it fact resulted in earning him hell lot of info on enemy movements.
He was ignorant to the fact that a Navy Admiral was on the island as their enemy.

He endangered the crew by creating a risk for that same Admiral to be alerted to them, as well as Doflamingo and his army. Did he have a valid reason for running? Yes. But there was an even more valid reason for him NOT to run off like he did.

Yes, people were looking at them. You can see Zoro's dash out the restaurant making noise that caused people to look over at him here[ ] and he was yelling for his sword and at Sanji in the middle of a crowded plaza.



Except that he didn't create any.
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Today I learned potentially drawing the Navy Admiral, a pirate stronger than your captain, and an army towards you isn't dangerous.
Oh yeah Zoro did say Luffy to get a grip...As far as I know Law also told Luffy to not do anything stupid with Doflamingo...well shit I guess Luffy is not good enough as captain since he brought everyone in danger :/ as I said...everyone makes mistakes LOL also that go get a grp from Zoro was 'cause he heared Luffy got beaten from Ceasar not 'cause he is joking around...again...what you said makes no sense XD
Yeah that Zoro...last time I remembered....Luffy declared a war against whole world goverment :| bruh...What's OP without danger...
He just likes to bitch over irrelevant shit.

Let's count how many times Luffy has put his own crew in danger because of his stupidity.

Just Riker getting asshurt and blaming everything on Zoro.
Lmao how dumb can you get? Lemme see how simple I can make this for you two.

1. Someone said Usopp reacted badly to losing the Merry, so he can't be vice captain.

2. I said Zoro, the person they were vouching for to be the vice captain, also reacted badly to losing something important to him, creating danger.

3. The fact that Zoro creating danger because of a bad reaction doesn't invalidate him as vice captain means that Usopp's bad reaction doesn't invalidate him as vice captain either. This is because Zoro's reaction was objectively worse.

4. The fact that Luffy is also prone to making bad decisions that puts the crew in danger is further proof that Usopp's bad reaction shouldn't invalidate him from being vice captain. That is because Luffy constantly puts the crew in danger, but remains captain. If he can do that, and remain captain, then Usopp's bad decision that doesn't create danger shouldn't mean he can't be vice captain.
 
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So you have no grasp of how English punctuation works. Gotcha. Quite a coincidence that you used the phrasing from this convo to sum up all my convos, even ones that it doesn't apply to.
It seems that you don't, as quotation marks can also be used as a hint for sarcasm or irony, so when I said "not a big deal" when referring to your posts from this thread, I was trying to imply that what you were saying in this thread is bullshit and not at all sensible.

Oh Look, Riker is trying to explain to someone what something means when he doesn't even know himself. Idiot.
 

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It seems that you don't, as quotation marks can also be used as a hint for sarcasm or irony, so when I said "not a big deal" when referring to your posts from this thread, I was trying to imply that what you were saying in this thread is bullshit and not at all sensible.

Oh Look, Riker is trying to explain to someone what something means when he doesn't even know himself. Idiot.
Even when the phrase doesn't apply to things I've said in here? You smart good.
 

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Even when the phrase doesn't apply to things I've said in here? You smart good.
Implying that what is said in quotations marks has to be exactly what you said when most people use quotation marks to emphasize a point to what someone has said or done.

Yeah, you're just a dumbass.
 
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