Is Toneri the weakest villain from all the naruto Movies ?

[Namar]

Is your brain made out of mud? Toneri is stronger than all the naruto movie villains. It took a punch that overpowered a moon splitter to knock him out of tenseigan mode.

Are you so tired that you can't think straight ?

He splitted the moon with a technique not with his power. Kakashi has little power(chakra) but he can do chidori. So to make it for your understanding, little grasshopper. Power as small as it is can be condensed in to great things (chidori, moon splitting techs, etc) but just because Kakashi can use chidori that doesn't mean he is the most powerful in NarutoVerse.

Get your mind straight.

 

[Arima]

Is Toneri the weakest villain from all the naruto Movies ?

Nope. I would say he is the strongest villain from all the Naruto movies.

 

[Ensifer]

Would your ordinary villain do something like this ?

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[BLAZE]

Naruto used RSM against shin while fodderised Toneri with KCSM

 

[Namar]

Would your ordinary villain do something like this ?

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Haha, that's what we've been talking for the past couple of minutes.

That's just a technique. Kakashi can use the awesome op chidori. Is he the strongest ? Nope. Techniques do not represent the power of the user because as kakashi uses his small chakra to create chidori that can penentrate anything so can toneri condense a small amount of chakra to make that beam. It is just a technique not a reflection of power.

You guys have no connections to the real world.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Are you so tired that you can't think straight ?

He splitted the moon with a technique not with his power. Kakashi has little power(chakra) but he can do chidori. So to make it for your understanding, little grasshopper. Power as small as it is can be condensed in to great things (chidori, moon splitting techs, etc) but just because Kakashi can use chidori that doesn't mean he is the most powerful in NarutoVerse.

Get your mind straight.

Those are called "abilities", Pleb. Do you not forget that attacks are made from the users own chakra? You asked if he was the weakest and i answered that he isn't.

 

[Namar]

Those are called "abilities", Pleb. Do you not forget that attacks are made from the users own chakra? You asked if he was the weakest and i answered that he isn't.

What they use are not abilities. I know what you are trying to say and those are not abilities, those are techniques.

Thank you for your answer! Much appreciated.

 

[Seventh Sama]

What they use are not abilities. I know what you are trying to say and those are not abilities, those are techniques.

Thank you for your answer! Much appreciated.

What's your definition of abilitie then?

 

[Shruikan]

The fact that a fodder like Shin brought out BM from Naruto while Toneri got nothing but a KCM says it all

 

[AllHailLordZeustsu]

Lord Zeustsu is the most OP Villain

 

[Namar]

What's your definition of abilitie then?

Sorry for answering in a delay. I got trapped in a discussion on another thread.

For me ability is something that you do in a natural manner and please let me explain this further in to depth.
For shinobi, syphoning chakra and using it is a natural ability that their body and mind can harness and comprehend.
So, for me ability is something that you are born with and can do it.
Ofc I might not be right but that's the point of a discussion after all. To learn new things from new people.

 

[Kurama2012]

Power and technique are not the same things.

So, look at real life .. In fights... Technique defeats crazy muscled people. Can you say the technique guy has power ? No, he has a well learned technique, but that is not power it is just a move.

Power comes and I repeat from what you can send from inside your body to the exterior.

Look at this then:

Kakashi is he a person with tremendous chakra ? Is he the strongest shinobi ? Better than Toneri ? No!
But he can use Chidori which is incredibly powerful. It penetrates almost anything. So, in conclusion Kakashi is not the strongest but his little power(chakra) can be molded into something very powerful and that's what technique does.

What I'm asking is: Is Toneri the strongest (from inside to outside - Chakra). Because you if guys remember well there was a demon flying thing that seemed op as hell.

Dude you make so little sense if I could send out nuke level attacks from my hands than that would make me the most powerful person but to do so I would need the technique to do so. the only way it wouldn't be my power or technique would be if I used a machine built by somebody else

So in regards to naruto, he developed the technique to create the Rasenshuriken which gives him the power to destroy cells

 

[Namar]

Dude you make so little sense if I could send out nuke level attacks from my hands than that would make me the most powerful person but to do so I would need the technique to do so. the only way it wouldn't be my power or technique would be if I used a machine built by somebody else

So in regards to naruto, he developed the technique to create the Rasenshuriken which gives him the power to destroy cells

So, are you telling me that in order for you to send nuke level attacks from your hands you would need all your power(chakra) ?

Toneri did not use all his chakra for that attack he just used a portion which, through technique got materialized but this doesn't make him the strongest. Kakashi creates chidori which is as you know too pretty op at huge scales it could cut the moon too. Does this mean that Kakashi has Toneri's level of power ?

Now, the thread is about who's stronger and nothing else

 

[Kurama2012]

Haha, that's what we've been talking for the past couple of minutes.

That's just a technique. Kakashi can use the awesome op chidori. Is he the strongest ? Nope. Techniques do not represent the power of the user because as kakashi uses his small chakra to create chidori that can penentrate anything so can toneri condense a small amount of chakra to make that beam. It is just a technique not a reflection of power.

You guys have no connections to the real world.

If chidori can do that even by kakashi then yeah kakashi would be up there with the best of them but he can't so your argument is mute

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Hiruko was possibly stronger (?)

Idk..there are some pretty strong movie villains but then there are the ones from the early pre-Shippuden ones like the bird women and the taijutsu users who just straight up drugged their enemies.

 

[Kurama2012]

So, are you telling me that in order for you to send nuke level attacks from your hands you would need all your power(chakra) ?

Toneri did not use all his chakra for that attack he just used a portion which, through technique got materialized but this doesn't make him the strongest. Kakashi creates chidori which is as you know too pretty op at huge scales it could cut the moon too. Does this mean that Kakashi has Toneri's level of power ?

Now, the thread is about who's stronger and nothing else

Are you implying that chidori can cut the moon in half?

 

[Kurama2012]

Hiruko was possibly stronger (?)

Idk..there are some pretty strong movie villains but then there are the ones from the early pre-Shippuden ones like the bird women and the taijutsu users who just straight up drugged their enemies.

To know who is the strongest movie villain is, you would probably have to compare how long they would last against the lasts version of
naruto

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Out of all the movies only one movie was canon. Therefore he is the strongest villian right now.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

To know who is the strongest movie villain is, you would probably have to compare how long they would last against the lasts version of
naruto

I'd actually disagree- in most cases because they ALL suffer from the 'Kakazu fooled by a Shadow Clone' effect it's actually best to evaluate them through their movesets and every feat they show unTIL the final battle ironically enough.

Hiruko's death in 'Will of Fire' doesn't even make SENSE. He can absorb chakra so Naruto makes lots and lots of rasengans and throws them at him....that's how he wins.

 

[Merkel]

No way.