Is Tobi weak?!

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It doesn't matter where he got his abilities. The fact that he stole the Rinnegan doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. The point is he has it. And with it he is a force to be reckoned with. In the end that's really all that matters.

If he was so weak then he would have been dealt with a long time ago
 

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Considering he is not using the rinnegan techs atm because he's controlling the jins, I'd say once they are gone he's gonna be pretty strong. The whole the rinnegan is not his power thing is just plain wrong. He has it, there for it is his power.
 
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I agree with this thread. N ive been saying it for a while. Theres nothing special about tobi. He gets his strength from manipulating other ppl. He's not that strong. We've seen him coward away from multiple things. Like running away from the leaf after minato defeated him. He didnt attack konoha due to itachi - and yes this shows cowardice. He doesnt ever fight. He makes ppl fight for him. All we've seen him kill with minimal difficulty is anbu squad members. Hissss punk ass nigga!
 

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u guys dont get it. he's strong caz he used ppl. he himself isnt\wasnt that strong. senju cells arent his. rinnegan isnt his. bijuu isnt his. all he had was s/t n a chain :|
:| Naruto..all that chakra isn't his. Without the nine tails he wouldn't have been able to accomplish now.

If Naruto didn't have the nine tails he would have died in the fight with Sasuke when he was leaving

or

He would be dead since the pein arc because he couldn't get out of Chibaku Tensei.
 
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:| Naruto..all that chakra isn't his. Without the nine tails he wouldn't have been able to accomplish now.

If Naruto didn't have the nine tails he would have died in the fight with Sasuke when he was leaving

or

He would be dead since the pein arc because he couldn't get out of Chibaku Tensei.
oh. so u dont recall naruto trying to not use the foxes power. u dont recall him suppressing the foxes chakra n not using it no matter what n trying to build on his own strength. no u dont recall that. n plz. tobi manipulates ppl n use their power. naruto was cursed with the foxes chakra. its onli since recent that he saw it as a gift.
 

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u see him fighting naruto? who is fighting naruto. the bijuu.
I think you missed the or at Least confront naruto.

@Second post
So what if he is using someone elses powers? Madara used Kurama in the fight against Hirashirama. Does that make him weak too?

Anyway... To be honest, I think Tobi is stalling Naruto until Sasuke gets there. And if Sasuke doesn't get there in time then He would have to step in himself.
 

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He dismantled two Allied Shinobis with just his legs. Nothing great, but yeah.

And he blocked a sword swing from Suigetsu...

We have to see more of him.
 

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At 2:04 question answered with one hand. At someone high level as that choking strong weak people making them see rainbows before death.
 
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I was thinking ok he has the Rinnegan but he had to steal it.
it was his to begin with

He was able to kill an Anbu Squad which shouldn´t be that hard because even Kabuto was able to do that in the first Part.
tobi fought anbu that were guarding the hokage's wife. kabuto killed random anbu guarding some kid

If he could controll them without it he wouldn´t have sealed them in the first place.
he sealed them so he can merge them, resurrecting juubi

So let´s face the offensive abilities which have been none so far.
wrong

While fighting Konan he was not fighting back, he just used as always his eye to suck everything in. Stabbed her from behind and lost one eye. Sorry but that was just a crappy way to win.
winning is winning. and he was up against konan whos very powerful, and had alot of prep time/intel on him

And he was kinda scared
he was more scared of sweating over a weak opponent than naruto himself

Befor anyone says Kabuto was so scared he showed him how to stop edo tensei. If you read the Manga he said it would be difficult to fight the rinnegan here but if he summons edo madara it would be over in a second.
tobi was still threatening him, knowing kabuto had madara. kabuto doesnt know what madara can actually do which is why he had madara show him. tobi does know what madara can do
 

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Theres nothing special about tobi. He gets his strength from manipulating other ppl. He's not that strong. We've seen him coward away from multiple things
lol its cowardice to retreat from a hopeless pointless battle? he lost kyuubi so there was no reason to stay. so what if he gets his power from others? so does kabuto, and madara. and naruto. nothing special? what do you define as special then? tobis the only one with that specific s/t jutsu

he's strong caz he used ppl. he himself isnt\wasnt that strong. senju cells arent his. rinnegan isnt his. bijuu isnt his. all he had was s/t n a chain
he himself has all those things now which is all that matters. all naruto had that he could call originally his own was taijutsu. everything else was learnt from other people/scrolls/given to him by minato. people get stronger because they gain abilities. its impossible to gain new abilities without seeing others fight/train under people. tobi simply takes power because hes a villain. rinnegan IS his. read the manga. "it was mine to begin with". and bijuus are used by hashirama madara naruto and bee too. suddenly they are weak too?

He's not like an Uchiha
yes an uchihas not like an uchiha..makes so much sense

If its a genjutsu it can be broken.
tell that to itachi
 

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it was his to begin with
yeah if it would be his, why implanting it in some random kid?

tobi fought anbu that were guarding the hokage's wife. kabuto killed random anbu guarding some kid
Even these Anbu aren´t that special most of the jounin are stronger than the anbu members.
he sealed them so he can merge them, resurrecting juubi
wow thanks for the information, currently he is using gedo mazo to controll them or is he not?
just saying it´s wrong won´t get you anywhere explain an offensive ability? or show me one

winning is winning. and he was up against konan whos very powerful, and had alot of prep time/intel on him
winning is not winning, winning like a hero is godlike. winning like a creepy ******* using izanagi and coming from behind is nothing special.

tobi was still threatening him, knowing kabuto had madara. kabuto doesnt know what madara can actually do which is why he had madara show him. tobi does know what madara can do
Kabuto was not scared if he used all the edos against creepy little tobi he would just die in an instant, it was just a better decision to go one with the war.



lol its cowardice to retreat from a hopeless pointless battle? he lost kyuubi so there was no reason to stay. so what if he gets his power from others? so does kabuto, and madara. and naruto. nothing special? what do you define as special then? tobis the only one with that specific s/t jutsu
Wow thats the only special thing then and it doesn´t mean he is strong. It just means he mastered something. The rest like the bijuu is just stolen and used.
Kabuto Madara Naruto are strong he is nothing special.
he himself has all those things now which is all that matters. all naruto had that he could call originally his own was taijutsu. everything else was learnt from other people/scrolls/given to him by minato. people get stronger because they gain abilities. its impossible to gain new abilities without seeing others fight/train under people. tobi simply takes power because hes a villain. rinnegan IS his. read the manga. "it was mine to begin with". and bijuus are used by hashirama madara naruto and bee too. suddenly they are weak too?
Okay looks like you don´t understand the diffrence between learning something and stealing somehting. Naruto Madara even Kabuto obtained there abilitys by training. Like supressing the kyuubi by naruto.

tell that to itachi
seems like you don´t remember his genjutsu was broken by sasuke with a "weaker" sharingan.
 
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I think you missed the or at Least confront naruto.

@Second post
So what if he is using someone elses powers? Madara used Kurama in the fight against Hirashirama. Does that make him weak too?

Anyway... To be honest, I think Tobi is stalling Naruto until Sasuke gets there. And if Sasuke doesn't get there in time then He would have to step in himself.
Nope but Madara was claimed to be the strongest Uchiha.
Tobi just mastered S/T and thats about it.

Tobi will just run away ;) like last time when he fought the 4th.


Actually Konan took Tobi by surprise
And Tobi>Kabuto
Kabuto almost piss his pants when Tobi asked him about Edo Tensei
She was prepeared but he was coming from behind with Izanagi and thats just a creepy way to win.

Everyone says that but he just said "It would be difficult to fight the rinnegan here".
Kabuto wants Sasuke and he just thougt it would be the easiest way to deal with the shinobi army if he told him the secret. Fighting them alone would be impossible.
 
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he now has rinnegan on top of the fact he can control the bijju + dont forget he has his s/t a very useful jutsu in battle. he is one of the main villains for a reason he is not weak
 
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