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Why don't you go to the thread that they are actually talking about madara and momo instead of talking about them here. -.-

There are plenty of people over their that will talk about that but no one here.

summary of the movie--->Momo gets rekted by rasengan.

I am simply pointing out the fallacy I see in that thread. And its in here as well
 

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Gravity dimension when see saw sasuke coming? Nah when see saw "them" coming stop trying to switch it up.
Also she did try to catch Naruto and failed. I been busy today but show me where I said she used amenominaka to try to catch naruto.
Naruto was already there, and Sasuke came from the desert dimension. So "she saw him coming"
And didn't I told to stop confusing Amenominaka with Yomotsu Hirasaka? She used the later to try to catch him.
 

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Naruto was already there, and Sasuke came from the desert dimension. So "she saw him coming"
And didn't I told to stop confusing Amenominaka with Yomotsu Hirasaka? She used the later to try to catch him.

They are coming. -.- lmfaooooo
Once again you need to stop switching shyt up.
I'm not confusing anything thats just you talking. Don't deny she is trying to catch Naruto.
Then decided to kill him instead.
 
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She even says it. They are coming with the very scan you posted. -.- lmfaooooo
Once again you need to stop switching shyt up.

:Omg:Cant you read? BZ said: "Mom, now that they're together...." not that they're coming, beside It wasn't even Kaguya speaking.
Yomotsu Hirasaka is the power when she used the portal, didn't you know about it?
 

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:Omg:Cant you read? BZ said: "Mom, now that they're together...." not that they're coming, beside It wasn't even Kaguya speaking.
Yomotsu Hirasaka is the power when she used the portal, didn't you know about it?

Stop talking about Yomotsu Hirasaka. No one is talking about that. Talking about Amenominaka I know BZ said that I'm just high atm. Point is you said becuz Sasuke is coming and that's false. She changed dimension becuz ''they'' are coming.

Also don't deny she is trying to catch Naruto first. Then decided to kill him atfer BZ tells her.
 

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Stop talking about Yomotsu Hirasaka. No one is talking about that. Talking about Amenominaka I know BZ said that I'm just high atm. Point is you said becuz Sasuke is coming and that's false. She changed dimension becuz ''they'' are coming.

Also don't deny she is trying to catch Naruto first. Then decided to kill him atfer BZ tells her.

Yes this exactly. Kaguya couldn't make her own mind up for what she should do so she decides to kill him after BZ's prodding. When Obito had the DMS to use Kamui into getting into Kaguya's main dimension Naruto tricked her with a Shadow Clone. Very fast thinking/reflexes from him. Also Amenominaka changes the dimensions and with every new dimension Naruto finds a way to break through and she changed dimensions because she was feeling inferior at that point. This is the main reason she changed from the Lava Dimension to the Gravity Dimension hoping se would have an advantage. So in summary the main reason why she changes dimensions is because they were about to seal her.
 

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Stop talking about Yomotsu Hirasaka. No one is talking about that. Talking about Amenominaka I know BZ said that I'm just high atm. Point is you said becuz Sasuke is coming and that's false. She changed dimension becuz ''they'' are coming.

Also don't deny she is trying to catch Naruto first. Then decided to kill him atfer BZ tells her.
You were high and you were laughing at what I stated, hein?
I never stated "because Sasuke is coming", I stated when. Learn the difference. She changed dimension not because they are coming but because they were together.
I never deny she try to catch him, I stated that she never use amenominaka to try to catch him. She used Yomotsu Hirasaka
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This is yomotsu hirasaka, I have to bring this because you think she used Amenominaka to try to catch him

Yes this exactly. Kaguya couldn't make her own mind up for what she should do so she decides to kill him after BZ's prodding. When Obito had the DMS to use Kamui into getting into Kaguya's main dimension Naruto tricked her with a Shadow Clone. Very fast thinking/reflexes from him. Also Amenominaka changes the dimensions and with every new dimension Naruto finds a way to break through and she changed dimensions because she was feeling inferior at that point. This is the main reason she changed from the Lava Dimension to the Gravity Dimension hoping se would have an advantage. So in summary the main reason why she changes dimensions is because they were about to seal her.
You stated it yourself. She used it as a defence tactic.
 
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You were high and you were laughing at what I stated, hein?
I never stated "because Sasuke is coming", I stated when. Learn the difference. She chnaged dimension not because they are coming but because they were together.
I never deny she try to catch him, I stated that she never use amenominaka to try to catch him. She used Yomotsu Hirasaka
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This is yomotsu hirasaka, I have to bring this because you think she used Amenominaka to try to catch him

I never stated "because Sasuke is coming", I stated when.

^^^Either way you meant it becuz of Sasuke and that is false it was becuz ''They'' were coming.

You think its only Sasuke? lololol
 

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I never stated "because Sasuke is coming", I stated when.

^^^Either way you meant it becuz of Sasuke and that is false it was becuz ''They'' were coming.

You think its only Sasuke? lololol

:lmao:You definitely can't read. When I mentionned Sasuke, I didn't stated the cause, I stated the moment. Do you know what "when" mean? In my previous reply you can see the cause. Are you blind? seroiusly, You need to see a doctor, and learn how to read too. Don't forget to reread the manga and know when she used Amenominaka or not.

They are coming. -.- lmfaooooo
Once again you need to stop switching shyt up.
I'm not confusing anything thats just you talking. Don't deny she is trying to catch Naruto.
Then decided to kill him instead.
Trying to fix it? :bdpf:
Edit: You know what...I'm not trying to point out your mistakes, but this thing is off-topic. It's better for you to stop.
 
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Edit: You know what...I'm not trying to point out your mistakes, but this thing is off-topic. It's better for you to stop.

Lmfaoooo you are trying really hard it seems. You even said it was becuz Sasuke was coming. -.- Then once again you did your thing and switched it up I could careless lol
 

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Lmfaoooo you are trying really hard it seems. You even said it was becuz Sasuke was coming. -.- Then once again you did your thing and switched it up I could careless lol
Go read my post and see the "when" not "because". I didn't switch anything.
She did it to switch the volcano for a ice dimnesion when Sasuke used Amenotejikara on her
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For a gravity dimension when she saw Sasuke coming
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So nope, she didn't use Amenominaka to try to catch Naruto.
I didn't even edit it, but I put it in the bold for you. This time, can you see it?
And seriously, you have to stop cause it'll be better for you.
 

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I don't need a counter agrument when you're off topic. Ameno has no place on this thread.

I dont tried to force you to counter Amenotejikara because thats not my main argument. But I want you to counter my statement on why Naruto is not that fast actually after the one moment(speed blitz Kaguya and ripped her arm off). And you failed to counter it and running away by saying this is ninja way, Sasuke will slow down Naruto effort to seal Kaguya because he not as fast as Naruto raw speed.

But actually Naruto speed is not that fast anymore and he cant appeared near Kaguya instantly without Kagyuya notice. And Sasuke dont have any problem to appear near Kaguya instantly because he have Amenotejikara.

Thats mean nothing hold Naruto from appeared near Kaguya using his instant speed again, Sasuke can keep up with him because he can used Amenotejikara and will not slowing down the sealing effort.

Its you that forced me to bring in Amenotejikara here because you said if Naruto blitz Kaguya, Sasuke cant keep up with him even with Amenotejikara and Naruto can blitz Kaguya if he have both seal. Here you clearly downplaying Amenotejikara.

With Naruto instant raw speed and Sasuke Amenotejikara, they both can instantly appeared near Kaguya and sealed her. But it never happen in manga because Naruto speed is not that fast anymore, thats why he need to used trick. And even with all that Kaguya still managed to attack Naruto and his clones and avoid from getting seal but only to found Sakura punch above.

The conclusion is Power/Chakra recovered Kaguya is faster than Naruto and Sasuke in raw speed.

Raw speed rank in Kaguya arc
1. Chakra recovered Kaguya
2. Naruto
3. Sasuke

not including Kakashi here.
 

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I dont tried to force you to counter Amenotejikara because thats not my main argument. But I want you to counter my statement on why Naruto is not that fast actually after the one moment(speed blitz Kaguya and ripped her arm off). And you failed to counter it and running away by saying this is ninja way, Sasuke will slow down Naruto effort to seal Kaguya because he not as fast as Naruto raw speed.

But actually Naruto speed is not that fast anymore and he cant appeared near Kaguya instantly without Kagyuya notice. And Sasuke dont have any problem to appear near Kaguya instantly because he have Amenotejikara.

Thats mean nothing hold Naruto from appeared near Kaguya using his instant speed again, Sasuke can keep up with him because he can used Amenotejikara and will not slowing down the sealing effort.

Its you that forced me to bring in Amenotejikara here because you said if Naruto blitz Kaguya, Sasuke cant keep up with him even with Amenotejikara and Naruto can blitz Kaguya if he have both seal. Here you clearly downplaying Amenotejikara.

With Naruto instant raw speed and Sasuke Amenotejikara, they both can instantly appeared near Kaguya and sealed her. But it never happen in manga because Naruto speed is not that fast anymore, thats why he need to used trick. And even with all that Kaguya still managed to attack Naruto and his clones and avoid from getting seal but only to found Sakura punch above.

The conclusion is Power/Chakra recovered Kaguya is faster than Naruto and Sasuke in raw speed.

Raw speed rank in Kaguya arc
1. Chakra recovered Kaguya
2. Naruto
3. Sasuke

not including Kakashi here.

''Its you that forced me to bring in Amenotejikara here because you said if Naruto blitz Kaguya, Sasuke cant keep up with him even with Amenotejikara and Naruto can blitz Kaguya if he have both seal.''

^^^You are kinda twisting my words so atfer that I stopped reading.

''I dont tried to force you to counter Amenotejikara because thats not my main argument.''

^^^^^Even if it was your main argument there would be nothing to counter becuz I wasn't saying anything about ameno. It isn't speed and is off topic.
 

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Go read my post and see the "when" not "because". I didn't switch anything.

I didn't even edit it, but I put it in the bold for you. This time, can you see it?
And seriously, you have to stop cause it'll be better for you.

This is clearly a game for you I see either way its not just becuz Sasuke which you failed to understand. Its everyone ''they'' are all together :|
 

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He is equal to or less than to FTG. Depends on distance
Faster at short distances. Manga facts
 

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''Its you that forced me to bring in Amenotejikara here because you said if Naruto blitz Kaguya, Sasuke cant keep up with him even with Amenotejikara and Naruto can blitz Kaguya if he have both seal.''

^^^You are kinda twisting my words so atfer that I stopped reading.

''I dont tried to force you to counter Amenotejikara because thats not my main argument.''

^^^^^Even if it was your main argument there would be nothing to counter becuz I wasn't saying anything about ameno. It isn't speed and is off topic.


Amenominaka wouldn't have done her any good..... Naruto is also a ninja he can use clones/trickery if he wants to just like she can switch dimensions and use Nature/Gravity to try and catch Naruto. Yes he can blitz her but that would be too fast he needs to be with Sasuke to seal her. Naruto blitz her when he was on the ground and she was in the air!!

Yea just keep saying the samething. Sasuke ameno..... that's just to get close he has to attack/move atfer that and hes to slow for her. If Naruto could seal her alone and not have Sasuke slowing him down it would be over. As proven being in the air is nothing to Naruto he will reach you asap!!

Read what you wrote above in your previous post especially at bold. I'm not twisting anything. Its you that downplay Sasuke and his speed even with Amenotejikara. Im just focusing to counter this post of yours.

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Referring to your second post(especially at bold):-

You said "Sasuke has to move after that and he is to slow for her".

That not the case as the panel get slow mo effect from Kishi. Actually they both move very fast to reach her shoulder.

But within that slow mo effect Naruto raw speed is portrayed to not being instant like the one moment. And that was Naruto true speed normally

Sasuke doesnt need to move much there. he just appeared very close to Kaguya after using Amenotejikara.
 
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Read what you wrote above in your previous post especially at bold. I'm not twisting anything. Its you that downplay Sasuke and his speed even with Amenotejikara. Im just focusing to counter this post of yours.

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Referring to your second post(especially at bold):-

You said "Sasuke has to move after that and he is to slow for her".

That not the case as the panel get slow mo effect from Kishi. Actually they both move very fast to reach her shoulder.

But within that slow mo effect Naruto raw speed is portrayed to not being instant like the one moment. And that was Naruto true speed normally

Sasuke doesnt need to move much there. he just appeared very close to Kaguya after using Amenotejikara.

Ummm wow okay Why are we even talking about ameno? You know its off topic yet to kept on talking about it -.- If Naruto could seal her alone the battle would of been over much quicker that is why I said Sasuke is slowing him down not becuz of ameno. You went off topic and you have to talk about neep not teleportation.
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Sasuke used ameno.
Not speed :|
Off topic stop
 

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Ummm wow okay Why are we even talking about ameno? You know its off topic yet to kept on talking about it -.- If Naruto could seal her alone the battle would of been over much quicker that is why I said Sasuke is slowing him down not becuz of ameno. You went off topic and you have to talk about neep not teleportation.
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Sasuke used ameno.
Not speed :|
Off topic stop

"if Naruto could seal her alone, the battle will be over much quicker"

I saw "what if" statement here

And no Naruto is not that fast anymore and also he couldnt seal her easily even with both seals.

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And for Ameno, Sasuke can just appeared behind Kaguya directly and very close to her. No need second movement like what you think.

I dont know why Kishi choose to draw it that way. Maybe kishi just drawing a parallel moment where they reached Kaguya together. And also because Naruto cant performed instant speed anymore.

To sum it up Sasuke can keep up with Naruto instant speed if they both want to seal Kaguya instantly. No excuses on Sasuke will slowing down Naruto.



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Ummm wow okay Why are we even talking about ameno? You know its off topic yet to kept on talking about it -.- If Naruto could seal her alone the battle would of been over much quicker that is why I said Sasuke is slowing him down not becuz of ameno. You went off topic and you have to talk about neep not teleportation.
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Sasuke used ameno.
Not speed :|
Off topic stop

"if Naruto could seal her alone, the battle will be over much quicker"

I saw "what if" statement here

And no Naruto is not that fast anymore and also he couldnt seal her easily even with both seals.

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And for Ameno, Sasuke can just appeared behind Kaguya directly and very close to her similar to above picture with Sakura. No need second movement like what you think.

I dont know why Kishi choose to draw it that way. Maybe kishi just drawing a parallel moment where they reached Kaguya together. And also because Naruto cant performed instant speed anymore.

To sum it up Sasuke can keep up with Naruto instant speed if they both want to seal Kaguya instantly. No excuses on Sasuke will slowing down Naruto.



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