Is there anyone who can tank Eight Trigrams 64 Palms?

[InfiniteMugen]

Well explain to me made ,Sasuke and hiash please

I don’t reallt have to if ce naruto tanked it do I? Whether you cry plot or not it’s still a manga fact and what happened
Hashi’s a no brainer, if for some strange reason the strongest member of the Senju couldn’t tank something like that, his broken regen does it for him

I am curious to know how Gentle Fist can affect Hidan's body unless his immortality can keep him alive without the use of chakra

I wish I knew how his immortality worked, period. Lol he kept the nick on his ear from the asuma fight I believe even as an edo. But didn’t really take much damage from kakuzu’s jutsus. So it’s kinda unclear, he obviously regens in some way from his ritual “damage” but didn’t from the nick, but wasn’t damaged by some pretty big elemental jutsus. So it’s kinda dicey with him imo

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Byakugo =/= Kurama

Lol and in they're mind it does which is the funniest

 

[unknownvillain1254]

I don’t reallt have to if ce naruto tanked it do I? Whether you cry plot or not it’s still a manga fact and what happened
Hashi’s a no brainer, if for some strange reason the strongest member of the Senju couldn’t tank something like that, his broken regen does it for him


I wish I knew how his immortality worked, period. Lol he kept the nick on his ear from the asuma fight I believe even as an edo. But didn’t really take much damage from kakuzu’s jutsus. So it’s kinda unclear, he obviously regens in some way from his ritual “damage” but didn’t from the nick, but wasn’t damaged by some pretty big elemental jutsus. So it’s kinda dicey with him imo

His regeneration is apparently not that good because he died and you cannot regenerate anything if you don't have any chakra.

Naruto and full nine tails both got hit by gentle Fist and both got knocked out f*** you and whatever you coming with

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[InfiniteMugen]

His regeneration is apparently not that good because he died and you cannot regenerate anything if you don't have any chakra.

Naruto and full nine tails both got hit by gentle Fist and both got knocked out f*** you and whatever you coming with

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Lol if himawari is all you got this was over when you asked considering she poked him once... not 64 times..sure didn’t look like 64 to me, or a fight for that matter. CE Naruto got nailed with it point blank and stood up on his own, no blocking, not even attempting to avoid it, kurama didn’t come into play until he reopens his chakra points. And this was someone who was LEAGUES above naruto in damn near every single category. Name a hyuga that’s above the people I listed by the end of ship, bar the 2 dead guys of course. Hell, name any character that’s been one shotted in the manga by a 64 palms attack, an actual character, name one

 

[Joshutsu]

And how you plan on proving that claim

I think the question is how are you planning on disproving that claim.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

I think the question is how are you planning on disproving that claim.

Tsunade isnt tanking, she's regenerating. I think this was common sense back in the days.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Everybody tanks it, whether they can still fight without chakra or not is a separate matter. The 64 palms strength is also dependant on a user of it. Let's say prodigies like Neji, Hanabi(based on the her being the heiress) or Hiashi use it then it'll cause serious damage as an added effect. Let's say somebody of lesser calibre such as the master of aerial rotation uses it then it's likely to be less powerful and damaging. It all depends on the user really.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Lol if himawari is all you got this was over when you asked considering she poked him once... not 64 times..sure didn’t look like 64 to me, or a fight for that matter. CE Naruto got nailed with it point blank and stood up on his own, no blocking, not even attempting to avoid it, kurama didn’t come into play until he reopens his chakra points. And this was someone who was LEAGUES above naruto in damn near every single category. Name a hyuga that’s above the people I listed by the end of ship, bar the 2 dead guys of course. Hell, name any character that’s been one shotted in the manga by a 64 palms attack, an actual character, name one

A kumogakure shinobi was killed with gentle fist apparently. When he was running away after kidnapping hinata.

 

[salamander uchiha]

A kumogakure shinobi was killed with gentle fist apparently. When he was running away after kidnapping hinata.

Theres a difference between 64 palms which is specific to targeting chakra points. Another factor is because of the speed at which the chakra is released, to maintain constant speed they don't inject much so the damage isn't as severe as targeting specific points. Naruto was hit with 64 palms and survived because of that. Hinata was hit with single point strikes and was hurt badly largely because of the voulme injected in single blows. What Hiashi did was likely the latter injecting chakra into his body likely destroying his organs not necessarily the points.

 

[neosmith500]

64 Palm isn't meant for killing so surviving it isn't the problem at all for anyone. Unless by tank u mean akin to what Kidomaro and that Shira guy from the fillers did? Well Kidomaro's Armor specifically prevents Chakra from passing through as an added perk and Shira tanked it by holding his breath or something which made his body strong...Its filler so that isn't valid anyway..

Nobody is tanking it unless they have some sort of armor which specifically blocks Chakra from seeping through. Kisame while fused with his sword can tank it since he'd just absorb the Chakra. 3rd Raikage tanks it as he tanked Rasenshuriken , maybe Aye since he blocked Chidori , unless Naruto's BM Cloak is more durable than V1 Aye , which means Gentle fist should still bypass it like wat Hinata did tho I dont think BM Cloak could take a Chidori to the chest like Aye did but i could be wrong.

But if by this thread u meant tank without any sort of armor or watever then maybe only the third Raikage tanks it , since blocking all the millions of tiny Rasenshuriken blades from breaching his skin and shredding his Chakra network is a big deal for me , and he did it without his V1 since it was blown away. Tho i do remember his skin getting scarred from Temari's wind-net soo im not sure , maybe the wind blades were too tiny for them to breach his skin while Temari's attacks were more focused. Kakashi also made it seem as if durability was irrlevant against Jyuken but the Thirds feat against Rasenshuriken says hi. Im at a cross-roads with the Third and his son..

 

[Scryed]

Only Jinchuuriki since the separate chakra source belongs to a different being that can act while the host is unable to do anything.

Byakugou, Curse Mark, Sage Mode isn't going to work since none of these reopen those chakra points so the chakra won't flow even flow through their body. Otherwise, Kidomaru would've still been able to use Curse Mark after Neji closed his chakra points.


That's if by "tanking" you're referring to people who could still use chakra after being hit. If you mean being left unable to fight at all, then several people can "tank" it

 

[Hakke]

64 Palm isn't meant for killing so surviving it isn't the problem at all for anyone. Unless by tank u mean akin to what Kidomaro and that Shira guy from the fillers did? Well Kidomaro's Armor specifically prevents Chakra from passing through as an added perk and Shira tanked it by holding his breath or something which made his body strong...Its filler so that isn't valid anyway..

Nobody is tanking it unless they have some sort of armor which specifically blocks Chakra from seeping through. Kisame while fused with his sword can tank it since he'd just absorb the Chakra. 3rd Raikage tanks it as he tanked Rasenshuriken , maybe Aye since he blocked Chidori , unless Naruto's BM Cloak is more durable than V1 Aye , which means Gentle fist should still bypass it like wat Hinata did tho I dont think BM Cloak could take a Chidori to the chest like Aye did but i could be wrong.

But if by this thread u meant tank without any sort of armor or watever then maybe only the third Raikage tanks it , since blocking all the millions of tiny Rasenshuriken blades from breaching his skin and shredding his Chakra network is a big deal for me , and he did it without his V1 since it was blown away. Tho i do remember his skin getting scarred from Temari's wind-net soo im not sure , maybe the wind blades were too tiny for them to breach his skin while Temari's attacks were more focused. Kakashi also made it seem as if durability was irrlevant against Jyuken but the Thirds feat against Rasenshuriken says hi. Im at a cross-roads with the Third and his son..

Wait, was it stated that the Rasenshurekin can bypass the skin/durability like the Gentle Fist? I understand that it can harm the Chakra Network but that doesn't mean that it has all the aspects of Jyuken. So how does him being able to FRS proves that he can tank Jyuken?

 

[unknownvillain1254]

64 Palm isn't meant for killing so surviving it isn't the problem at all for anyone. Unless by tank u mean akin to what Kidomaro and that Shira guy from the fillers did? Well Kidomaro's Armor specifically prevents Chakra from passing through as an added perk and Shira tanked it by holding his breath or something which made his body strong...Its filler so that isn't valid anyway..

Nobody is tanking it unless they have some sort of armor which specifically blocks Chakra from seeping through. Kisame while fused with his sword can tank it since he'd just absorb the Chakra. 3rd Raikage tanks it as he tanked Rasenshuriken , maybe Aye since he blocked Chidori , unless Naruto's BM Cloak is more durable than V1 Aye , which means Gentle fist should still bypass it like wat Hinata did tho I dont think BM Cloak could take a Chidori to the chest like Aye did but i could be wrong.

But if by this thread u meant tank without any sort of armor or watever then maybe only the third Raikage tanks it , since blocking all the millions of tiny Rasenshuriken blades from breaching his skin and shredding his Chakra network is a big deal for me , and he did it without his V1 since it was blown away. Tho i do remember his skin getting scarred from Temari's wind-net soo im not sure , maybe the wind blades were too tiny for them to breach his skin while Temari's attacks were more focused. Kakashi also made it seem as if durability was irrlevant against Jyuken but the Thirds feat against Rasenshuriken says hi. Im at a cross-roads with the Third and his son..

Rasenshuriken did hurt him read the Manga and watch the anime over again he have plenty of scratches and scars on him but it wouldn't even matter he would automatically heal anyway

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Lol if himawari is all you got this was over when you asked considering she poked him once... not 64 times..sure didn’t look like 64 to me, or a fight for that matter. CE Naruto got nailed with it point blank and stood up on his own, no blocking, not even attempting to avoid it, kurama didn’t come into play until he reopens his chakra points. And this was someone who was LEAGUES above naruto in damn near every single category. Name a hyuga that’s above the people I listed by the end of ship, bar the 2 dead guys of course. Hell, name any character that’s been one shotted in the manga by a 64 palms attack, an actual character, name one

First off is only been used once

And what do you mean tank do you mean being able to get up or still being able to use chakra because that is a difference 64 pound is not design to kill somebody it is design to disable chakra

 

[Joshutsu]

Tsunade isnt tanking, she's regenerating. I think this was common sense back in the days.

It's a buff that allows her to take hits and keep on going within seconds due to rapid regeneration. She can tire though. I'm well aware of how the jutsu works. So don't come around here picking at straws with me.

Regeneration isn't even the the reason she can potentially best the 64 palm. But I assume since you're acting like you know the most you know why I say that regeneration isn't the key so let's see if you can figure out why.

 

[Joshutsu]

Only Jinchuuriki since the separate chakra source belongs to a different being that can act while the host is unable to do anything.

Byakugou, Curse Mark, Sage Mode isn't going to work since none of these reopen those chakra points so the chakra won't flow even flow through their body. Otherwise, Kidomaru would've still been able to use Curse Mark after Neji closed his chakra points.


That's if by "tanking" you're referring to people who could still use chakra after being hit. If you mean being left unable to fight at all, then several people can "tank" it

The difference between byakugo and the cursed seal/sage mode is that the byakugo seal is stores chakra that is already molded.

Having that released would be similar to another person or being like kurama. Molding and pumping large amounts of chakra back into your body which is undoing the closed chakra points.

The key difference is already molded chakra. This is why Tsunade and Sakura can use that to perform large change techniques without wasted stamina when it's coming from the seal.

The curse mark is the only thing that might be remotely similar. But nothing speaks to the volume of chakra that pumps through that seal. Also the cursed seal is not a well of chakra that sits with the user like byakugo. It's more remote and acting as a receiver. That connection can be severed based on what we have seen. This is a debatable point but i'm just stating my opinion based on what I know about both.

Sage mode is definitely not a good comparison. The chakra is being drawn from a completely outside source. Sage mode also isnt a continuous stream of nature energy. SM in itself takes chakra to do. So that one holds no water entirely.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Wait, was it stated that the Rasenshurekin can bypass the skin/durability like the Gentle Fist?

No

Kind of is when the attack delivers numerous strikes to your chakra points and causes internal damage.

Again, not relevant. Byakugo isn't opening sealed Chakra points since it doesn't have a mind of its own like Kurama :lol

Everybody tanks it, whether they can still fight without chakra or not is a separate matter. The 64 palms strength is also dependant on a user of it. Let's say prodigies like Neji, Hanabi(based on the her being the heiress) or Hiashi use it then it'll cause serious damage as an added effect. Let's say somebody of lesser calibre such as the master of aerial rotation uses it then it's likely to be less powerful and damaging. It all depends on the user really.

lol @ giving Hanabi feats she doesn't have

 

[InfiniteMugen]

First off is only been used once

And what do you mean tank do you mean being able to get up or still being able to use chakra because that is a difference 64 pound is not design to kill somebody it is design to disable chakra

This I couldn’t tell you, I’m not sure if op literally means stand there and tank, or who could take a hit and survive

 

[Made in Heaven]

The difference between byakugo and the cursed seal/sage mode is that the byakugo seal is stores chakra that is already molded.

And the difference between Yin Seal and Kurama is that the latter is a separate being which we literally see Naruto calling out to jelp him undo his sealed Chakra points.

Having that released would be similar to another person or being like kurama. Molding and pumping large amounts of chakra back into your body which is undoing the closed chakra points.

No it wouldn't, Yin Seal is more like Curse Seal than it is like Kurama. and they wouldn't be able to mold and pump as you put it with their chakra points closed to begin with.

The key difference is already molded chakra. This is why Tsunade and Sakura can use that to perform large change techniques without wasted stamina when it's coming from the seal.

Key difference is a separate consciousness, just like with Genjutsu.

The curse mark is the only thing that might be remotely similar. But nothing speaks to the volume of chakra that pumps through that seal.

Volume doesn't matter since Hinata used 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone which would naturally have Rikudo Chakra.

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Not only is Naruto directing TALKING to Kurama to give him power, but Kurama also refers to this, saying that Naruto always came to him whenever something came up he couldn’t handle. It likely isn’t the type of Chakra that did that, since, like I said before, we see Hinata use the 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone, so it seems likely that instead its because Kurama is his own being that he was able to help Naruto, and not the TYPE of Chakra.

Naruto had to depend on another individual, another being with Chakra, to open his Chakra Points. Whereas Sakura would be depending on nothing more than a seal, so it can’t be said for certain that this would work. Naruto and Kurama are treated like two people fighting at once, such as how Kurama’s always providing Naruto with Chakra. Same way how Bijuus snap users out of Genjutsu because they act as a separate individual with their own Chakra network, same goes for undoing closed Chakra Points. This is the most sensible explanation imo. Obviously its not the potency of Chakra, since we saw Hinata close off the points of a Juubi Clone. Likewise, it’s unlikely that it’s merely because its a separate Chakra source/seal, since we see that Naruto has to ask Kurama to give him the Chakra, meaning another individual has to deliberately and willingly pump the victim of Gentle Fist with chakra, something Sakura wouldn’t be able to do since her Yin Seal doesn’t house a conscious being.

 

[Team7monaa]

And the difference between Yin Seal and Kurama is that the latter is a separate being which we literally see Naruto calling out to jelp him undo his sealed Chakra points.



No it wouldn't, Yin Seal is more like Curse Seal than it is like Kurama. and they wouldn't be able to mold and pump as you put it with their chakra points closed to begin with.



Key difference is a separate consciousness, just like with Genjutsu.


Volume doesn't matter since Hinata used 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone which would naturally have Rikudo Chakra.

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Not only is Naruto directing TALKING to Kurama to give him power, but Kurama also refers to this, saying that Naruto always came to him whenever something came up he couldn’t handle. It likely isn’t the type of Chakra that did that, since, like I said before, we see Hinata use the 64 Palms on a Juubi Clone, so it seems likely that instead its because Kurama is his own being that he was able to help Naruto, and not the TYPE of Chakra.

Naruto had to depend on another individual, another being with Chakra, to open his Chakra Points. Whereas Sakura would be depending on nothing more than a seal, so it can’t be said for certain that this would work. Naruto and Kurama are treated like two people fighting at once, such as how Kurama’s always providing Naruto with Chakra. Same way how Bijuus snap users out of Genjutsu because they act as a separate individual with their own Chakra network, same goes for undoing closed Chakra Points. This is the most sensible explanation imo. Obviously its not the potency of Chakra, since we saw Hinata close off the points of a Juubi Clone. Likewise, it’s unlikely that it’s merely because its a separate Chakra source/seal, since we see that Naruto has to ask Kurama to give him the Chakra, meaning another individual has to deliberately and willingly pump the victim of Gentle Fist with chakra, something Sakura wouldn’t be able to do since her Yin Seal doesn’t house a conscious being.

Thsi isn’t about Byakugō Tsunade survived being split in half and her Byakugō was not activated, so her chakra network was severed but she still managed to summon Katsuyu and use chakra.