Is the first Hokage really that strong?

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I have been reading and watching the anime all over again this past few weeks and when i saw the anime episode when the three Hokage clashed (you know, the one in the Chunin exam?) and I've seen that the first Hokage didn't seem that strong while fighting Sarutobi. even with the help of Tobirama, they were still having trouble. he couldn't possibly defeat Sarutobi,let alone Madara. And then in the manga, Madara had said that Hashirama is very strong, more than all the five kages combined.
It's making me confused. Maybe Kishimoto-sensei haven't shown us his real power or Madara was just toying with Tsunade about her not being strong enough and that she's ugly. :eek:
I can't believe he said that to her. That sick bastard!:mad: I'll choke him! CHOKE HIM!:flaw:
Ahem...getting off topic...:o

Okay, now I'm confused. Is he strong?
 

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Wow. Just wow.
 

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he is, oro just couldnt use him to his full power
 

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Very we can't say for sure who would win between him and the 3rd in a fight
 

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Don't judge hashirama from that fight alone.
Yes hashirama beat madara along with the kyuubi there is no denying that.
 

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he is, oro just couldnt use him to his full power
^This. Also, Hashi was toying with Hiruzen. Plus, Hashi defeated Madara. That's a testament to his strength in and of itself.
 

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i dont think that he was able to fight to his full potential in the fiight aginst sarutobi because he was just a puppet with the edo tensi but in his natural state (alive) imo he would have won against Sarutobi
 

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Did we forget that Orochimaru was controlling Hashirama? Orochimaru didn't know what to do with the two powerful Kage. But Hiruzen is strong and I bet in his prime, he could solo anyone, even Madara.
 

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1st and 2nd hokage only toyed with hiruzen,hiruzen would be dead way faster if they fought with all they had U_U
 

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I have been reading and watching the anime all over again this past few weeks and when i saw the anime episode when the three Hokage clashed (you know, the one in the Chunin exam?) and I've seen that the first Hokage didn't seem that strong while fighting Sarutobi. even with the help of Tobirama, they were still having trouble. he couldn't possibly defeat Sarutobi,let alone Madara. And then in the manga, Madara had said that Hashirama is very strong, more than all the five kages combined.
It's making me confused. Maybe Kishimoto-sensei haven't shown us his real power or Madara was just toying with Tsunade about her not being strong enough and that she's ugly. :eek:
I can't believe he said that to her. That sick bastard!:mad: I'll choke him! CHOKE HIM!:flaw:
Ahem...getting off topic...:o

Okay, now I'm confused. Is he strong?

I believe it was mentioned that since orchimaru never perfected the edo tensei he didn't have full access to the strength and abilities of the ones he summoned. So that was like a small fraction of how powerful the 1st hokage can be.
 
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The only thing that caught my attention was this.



You wanna choke a fictional character because he told another fictional character that she's ugly.......:sy:

Yes I do if I could. I'll choke him, slap him, strip him off his clothes and throw him in the dumpster (sorry to Madara fan, I didn't mean to). And no, I'm not insane. I'm just mad.U_U
 

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Oro edo tensi was not so strong
 

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I would actually go with yyes and the hypes giuen to him can for now act as testament
 

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Even in hiruzen's prime, in the end he wouldn't defeat hashirama.
 

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I believe it was mentioned that since orchimaru never perfected the edo tensei he didn't have full access to the strength and abilities of the ones he summoned. So that was like a small fraction of how powerful the 1st hokage can be.

oro did perfect it kabuto himself said it
 
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