Is suicide an act of selfishness?

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It depends. If a person feels internally tortured every waking moment of their life, and all treatments fail, is it not selfish of others to want to keep that person alive? To have constant mental anguish and no relief, to always be in pain without any way to cope, sounds almost inhumane.

There are many different motivations for a person to commit suicide, and I often find the method of execution to most often be the indicator of selfishness: getting hit by a train delays that train and it's cargo/passengers for hours; gunshot wounds or stab wounds leave a mess to be cleaned up; attempted suicides tie up medical resources; etc... Those who bring attention to themselves are basically issuing a cry for help.

Many factors need to be considered as to whether or not it is selfish, and I think it would have to be determined on a case by case basis. Too general of a question requiring too narrow of a brush for an answer.

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The concept of it being selfish is situational.

For example, would you rather jump from a building and feel nothing smashing your head on pavement....or burn to death? Jumping is suicide...but does it benifit more than burning to death.

Alternatively, it could be no one cares if they die. In that instance, it cannot be selfish as one taking action has taken nothing from anyone.

Whether the decision is selfish or not is ultimately dependant upon how one observes a situation. Thus, ultimately is brought to the opinion of an individual.

One may see a selfish act as it leaves others behind with pain. Yet the same act could be seen as legitimate because of some other set of perceived variables.


In short: it's all opinionated
 

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If you're in a place dark enough that death seems a nice alternative, it's hard to consider such an act selfish. People who cannot value their own lives probably think that others don't value them either. Step into the shoes of someone on the verge of suicide and you may find that it never crossed their mind that others may suffer from their death.

But I don't know.
 

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You know nothing.

I know enough it's stupid.
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have you ever had the mentality of wanting to kill yourself? I have, and it's not just some sporadic thought, my friend. It's not like as soon as you get a problem or stress, you think "Goddammit, I better kill myself." It's tons of build up and a feeling that consumes. Many people who commit suicide aren't looking for an answer, they're looking for escape because they've waited forever and have been denied an answer, or unable to find an answer for a very long time.



i may offend slot of people with this but suicide is act of an weak minded individual..........

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I know enough it's stupid.
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Exactly.
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You got some issues. You're saving a *****s quotes and shit to try and get at them on something like THIS? If anything is weak, it's the shit that you are doing....
 
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Highly depends. If you have retarded parents that wanted to reproduce despite not being able to have financial security for their child(ren) and also lack the wisdom to raise it without forcing their will upon their kids with force and stupidity, in time driving the kid to hating life, then **** what they would feel after their child commits suicide. Simpletons should not reproduce. Suicide is a choice and any outsider that is useless to that person's happiness should not call the suicidal person selfish.

Then again, it could be a school bully, a disability, an empty life in general that could take the place of retarded parents.
 

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Usually, people who hear that someone commited suicide say that the person was weak and selfish.

But you never know what kind of darkness is inside a person and what kind of misery a person needs to fight with. It's not that some people can't fight that anymore, it's more that some people don't see reason to fight.
 

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Act of cowardice
 

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Act of cowardice

Don't you need a certain sense of guts to plunge into the unknown? It is most defintely not cowardice.
A shame, yes. But not cowardice.
 

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It's best not to open these kind of topics in front of Katsura and Riker Slade; they experienced it.

Anyway, suicide is also act of sin. Only God can take your life, and by committing suicide you're taking the order on your own. That's what my religion taught me. And as you mentioned, dear people in his/her life will experience pain of loss.
 

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It's best not to open these kind of topics in front of Katsura and Riker Slade; they experienced it.

Anyway, suicide is also act of sin. Only God can take your life, and by committing suicide you're taking the order on your own. That's what my religion taught me. And as you mentioned, dear people in his/her life will experience pain of loss.

I get that. I come from a religious family, trust me. But sometimes prayer is not enough. I mean don't get me wrong. I pray when Im feeling lost, but sometimes God doesn't answer. Sometimes the pain can be too much to bear. It's not easy to put on a smile and just be happy for everyone. People call people who attempt suicide weak and cowards.

And they expect for them to be happy and just let go of their depression FOR THEM! It is not that easy. If you never felt what we felt then you will never get us.
 

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OT: In a way, yes, suicide is selfish in that it is done for oneself. Only a small margin of suicide is for the sake of others. But, that doesn't necessarily have to be a negative connotation of the word selfish. Eating is also selfish, who says to themselves "This one is for you, Jerry," before eating dinner or lunch? Simply put, our lives are our own. You are free to do what you want with your life. If you want to end it, then that's your choice to make.

Is it an act of cowardice? No, I don't think so either. It's certainly not an attack of bravery, but suicide isn't something you can lightheartedly do either. Like YowYan said, it takes a push to dwell into that dark place; frankly, you need a certain constitution for suicide, and not everyone has it. If anything, people who have been seriously suicidal, or have attempted suicide, but have overcome that have to be strong minded.
I know enough it's stupid.
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Exactly.
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You got some issues. You're saving a *****s quotes and shit to try and get at them on something like THIS? If anything is weak, it's the shit that you are doing....
Invince, I wonder, how weakminded do you have to be for this to happen.
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It's best not to open these kind of topics in front of Katsura and Riker Slade; they experienced it.

Anyway, suicide is also act of sin. Only God can take your life, and by committing suicide you're taking the order on your own. That's what my religion taught me. And as you mentioned, dear people in his/her life will experience pain of loss.

This thread doesn't bother me at all, nor does the topic. Though, I'm about 40% sure you're just asinine like Derp Obito is.
 

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You will never understand.

Really:sweat: as someone who suffered some years from depression, contemplated suicide, and even had a brother try to drink bleach to kill himself I would think I had insight into the issue. Anyway whatever u say bruh. :|
It's best not to open these kind of topics in front of Katsura and Riker Slade; they experienced it.

Anyway, suicide is also act of sin. Only God can take your life, and by committing suicide you're taking the order on your own. That's what my religion taught me. And as you mentioned, dear people in his/her life will experience pain of loss.

This also true. Suicide is a sin
 
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Really:sweat: as someone who suffered some years from depression, contemplated suicide, and even had a brother try to drink bleach to kill himself I would think I had insight into the issue. Anyway whatever u say bruh. :|

This also true. Suicide is a sin

Im sorry for that. Really I am.
 

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If I had killed myself,my parents would have saved a lot of money. It could be like a sacrifice so they can live on happily not selfish. People move on, others have to live. One of my highschool buddy killed himself,he was emo type. I dnt remember that much of him. It cant be selfish for everyone. I dnt know about people who cry about muh mental depression I am thinking about those who are actually at disadvantages and failed in life and are living in misery and know for absolute it cant be changed,for them suicide could seem like logical way out.
 

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So is eating shrimp but hey

That was only according to the mosaic law . God's relationship with Israel ended when they killed his son. A new convenant was put in place since then one with much less restrictions. Also a lot of rules from the mosaic law were a protection for them. Fish that have scales are more protected from toxins in water. :|

Anyway feel free to eat as many shrimp as u like without consequence
 
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