Is suicide a selfish act?

Is suicide selfish?

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  • No

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Onigannon

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I believe suicide is a selfish action but can be with noble intent. If you commit the act while depressed ( over a girl/boy friend dumping you, losing a job, or stubbing your toe one first thing in the morning ;) ) then it is choosing the easy path that takes away your pain and gives it to anyone who cared for you. However if a soldier dives onto a grenade to save his battle buddies from taking the full force of the explosion then his act is regarded as bravery rather than cowardliness. Situation and circumstance can change the perspective more often than not suicide is an option only considered by weak willed people who are too easily led in to the benefits of a long term solution to many of life's short term problems.

However this is only my opinion and I hope it helps for what its worth. :)
 

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My my, there's actually some form of intelligent discussion going on here; good on ya, NB.

As for the OP, my viewpoint(s) have already been expressed in this thread already by others members.​
 

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Yes it is
You get away easy but the ones you love and the ones that care about you will suffer
 

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The ends of suicide is subjective; there is no right or wrong answer: just man categorizing properties to an element.
 
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Very much selfish in my opinion. If you're having a tough time, you see it through to the end. Life is a blessing, we're very fortunate to have it. Committing suicide basically completely disregards this blessing, and not only that, it makes the people close to you besides themselves with grief and suffering. If you're thinking about committing suicide, think about the people you care about. If you don't want them to suffer, then endure your own suffering to see all of you smiling at the end of it.
 

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Selfish or not, it should be only their decision. Trying to change their decision for your benefit is selfish.
 

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Only in certain situations, for example sakumo's suicide was selfish
 

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Uchiha Shisui suicided. Was it selfish? Hell no. It all depends on situation, if you have a family or not. However, if you're planing smh like that I'll give you an advice. Don't do that. I have thought about it once..
 

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Uchiha Shisui suicided. Was it selfish? Hell no. It all depends on situation, if you have a family or not. However, if you're planing smh like that I'll give you an advice. Don't do that. I have thought about it once..

thats what im saying, shisui suicided for the better of konoha, while sakumo suicided leaving kakashi alone
 

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When a person commits suicide it's not simply because they're thinking about themselves. The people around them also aren't thinking about that person; at least until they've ended their life. Sure it's easy to pretend that isn't the case after the fact. Or maybe even to fool yourself into believing you've done everything possible before it happens. But it won't matter what you tell yourself once they're dead and gone.

This thread casts the problem as a personal one when the issue is much more systemic. We've created a society that functions on the suffering of others; where we pretend that we are good people because we can't handle the reality. We pray to our gods for the health of others while money that could be spent on disease research goes toward yet another iPhone or lotto ticket. We demand peace and fairness while ignoring mass executions and pushing more money into the hands of the wealthy. We place our values in basal materialistic desires, rather than into cooperation and unity, despite the latter being more capable of sating the former. We pretend the problems we created were the machinations of some 3rd party. And worst of all: we pretend to understand what we'd much rather ignore.

So whether or not it's a selfish act is irrelevant. That's a question and answer that doesn't fit the problem. But what is selfish is to condemn those who are gravely suffering and indeed those who have already died. If we were to afford them an ounce of relief instead of a pound of disdain then maybe - just maybe they wouldn't kill themselves.
 
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In Judeo-Christian All suicides go to Hell automatically. So you replace temporary suffering on earth for eternal suffering in Hell,What a trade off.
 

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it is. its a weak act for the weak.
 

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In Judeo-Christian All suicides go to Hell automatically. So you replace temporary suffering on earth for eternal suffering in Hell,What a trade off.

They're obviously wrong, so why worry.
 

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Sorry if I'm cruel but I would much rather have a a person comity suicide than kill their mom then go to Sandy Hooks school and kill 22 children and 4 teachers because he was depressed his life was sh*t. In my opinion he should e killed himself its the lesser of the 2 evils.
 

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somewhere not too far from where i live,i know that there is someone who feels utterly helpless,that they wish to commit suicide,but dont.and there are some not to far from where i live where there is someone who commited suicide.i live in the u.s and most people live very spoiled,their are hardly those that truly suffering life,but they know in their gut what they even have wont amount to anything and don't work at their problems.if we are fortunate enough to have our entire body with no disability,and a healthy mind,and are aware of our concision than their is no reason to commit suicide.weak ones are their to justify the strong.the only people i could feel that can justify a suicide are in third world countries like Africa,but even then they all try to cling to life one way or another even with aid going around like a ***** in a rich mans home.
 

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When a person commits suicide it's not simply because they're thinking about themselves. The people around them also aren't thinking about that person; at least until they've ended their life. Sure it's easy to pretend that isn't the case after the fact. Or maybe even to fool yourself into believing you've done everything possible before it happens. But it won't matter what you tell yourself once they're dead and gone.

This thread casts the problem as a personal one when the issue is much more systemic. We've created a society that functions on the suffering of others; where we pretend that we are good people because we can't handle the reality. We pray to our gods for the health of others while money that could be spent on disease research goes toward yet another iPhone or lotto ticket. We demand peace and fairness while ignoring mass executions and pushing more money into the hands of the wealthy. We place our values in basal materialistic desires, rather than into cooperation and unity, despite the latter being more capable of sating the former. We pretend the problems we created were the machinations of some 3rd party. And worst of all: we pretend to understand what we'd much rather ignore.

So whether or not it's a selfish act is irrelevant. That's a question and answer that doesn't fit problem. But what is selfish is to condemn those who are gravely suffering and indeed those who have already died. If we were to afford them an ounce of relief instead of a pound of disdain then maybe - just maybe they wouldn't kill themselves.


Exactly my point. You can't say someone has all these people that love them but in reality none of them he/she could talk to. So much for the loving them part. Sometimes people need someone they can express what's being hidden inside that nobody cares enough to listen. It isn't being being selfish, and it's not being a coward. What usually triggers this act is when people put burden rather than understanding. We don't live in a happy world with people who always help each other. But all it takes is one to stop it all.
 
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