Is Sasuke's normal Sharingan Genjutsu that strong?

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he does have Tsukiyomi

look to his Justu's

Urm, I always laugh my ass off when someone uses Naruto wiki as a proof, simply because the info is added by fans. Manga never states that Sasuke has Tsukiyomi, and Databook refers to Itachi. This is how Obito described Sasuke's Mangekyo Genjutsu or so called ''Tsukiyomi'':

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he does have Tsukiyomi

look to his Justu's

I disagree...here's the post that convinced me into thinking that he doesn't have Tsukuyomi. [ ]
 

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- Itachi's MS Genjutsu surpasses the normal MS technique, hence the reason why the manga specifically refers to his as Tsukuyomi. According to Itachi himself, the moon needs to become the sun - The moon and sun would combine to form Sussano as this reference depicted later on.

Hence, it is safe to assume that without moon and sun, one cannot have Sussano. So Sasuke's MS genjutsu is Tsukiyomi, but it's not written so exemplify the element of moon's illusion; an area where Itachi excels.

If one takes Tsukiyomi into account, then Sasuke's is vastly weak compared to Itachi as it lacks the time/space manipulation illusion. But as a stand alone genjutsu, it's extremely powerful. More powerful than Itachi in terms of Tsukuyomi? No. More powerful on normal level? No, I would put them on the same level.
 

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- Itachi's MS Genjutsu surpasses the normal MS technique

And you fail right here, Kakashi clearly meant that Itachi surpasses the normal sharingan, and when you surpass normal sharingan you have mangekyo sharingan. If you're struck by its eye technique(referring to tsukiyomi), it can affect you in instant.
 

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I dont think sasuke has tsukiyomi. what he has are strong eyes, thats it. if he had tsukiyomi the danzo fight wouldnt have lasted that long. its itachis tech and his alone. aside from shisui no one can mess with it and if itachi really wanted to use it on sasuke it would have been a wrap. genjutsu wise sasukes is average probably no better than kerenais
 
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I dont think sasuke has tsukiyomi. what he has are strong eyes, thats it. if he had tsukiyomi the danzo fight wouldnt have lasted that lon. its itachis tech and his alone. aside from shisui no one can mess with it ans if itachi really wanted to use it on sasuke it would have been a rap. genjutst wise sasukes genjutsu is average probably no better than kerenais

no better than kerenais? epic fail dude
 

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And you fail right here, Kakashi clearly meant that Itachi surpasses the normal sharingan, and when you surpass normal sharingan you have mangekyo sharingan. If you're struck by its eye technique(referring to tsukiyomi), it can affect you in instant.

Kakashi: "He uses an eye Jutsu that surpasses the original sharingen, the MS. If you are struck by that...HIS genjutsu can effect you...". How do you I fail exactly? Since he's talking about, and trying to explain about the MS genjutsu he faced from the start? Out of context, this statement would imply what you mean, but within the moon reference, it clearly doesn't.
 

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That was when sasuke first gained MS correct?

Now he has Ems and has used that genjutsu/tsukyomi at least 2 to 3 times.

On some of the best.

I belive that he has it or something very similar to it

THANK YOU. I still say his is not tsukiyomo but just alot stronger
 

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Urm, I always laugh my ass off when someone uses Naruto wiki as a proof, simply because the info is added by fans. Manga never states that Sasuke has Tsukiyomi, and Databook refers to Itachi. This is how Obito described Sasuke's Mangekyo Genjutsu or so called ''Tsukiyomi'':

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THANK YOU. I still say his is not tsukiyomo but just alot stronger
 

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Obito basically said his stuff was weak. Much Respect though

Obito said "Sasuke Genjutsu was weak compare to Tsukuyomi" and everyone in Manga is weak compare to Itachi level of Genjutsu in Tsukuyomi, but that doesn't change the fact Sasuke Genjutsu being far superior to Kurenai level of Genjutsu.
 

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So basically sasuke has tsukuyomi
 
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