Is perfect susanoo stronger than a bijuu?

[ChiefHermit]

just saw japanese version and nope, it doesnt say its stronger than a bijuu

 

[Ninpou]

One Biju Dama destroyed 1 mountain each.

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One susano slash that didnt use chakra destroyed more than 3.

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Susano is stronger.

 

[Blaze Release]

The tailed beasts power level is in direct proportion to the number of tails each have. We dont know what a perfect susano's limit is.

 

[Midday]

One Biju Dama destroyed 1 mountain each.

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One susano slash that didnt use chakra destroyed more than 3.

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Susano is stronger.

The bijuu bomb completely destroyed the mountain whilst the susanoo cut the tops off. What you've shown doesn't prove it's stronger and I believe *********** made a mistake, considering several other sites said ps is comparable to a bijuu.

 

[Koibito]

Narutobase's translation makes more sense although ***********'s are more reliable. I'll go with what I think makes more sense which is PS is comparable to a Bijuu. I think it's kind of weird that having Ems Madara is stronger than a bijuu.

Exactly this^^

 

[warlee]

One Biju Dama destroyed 1 mountain each.

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One susano slash that didnt use chakra destroyed more than 3.

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Susano is stronger.

no. Susano cut 3 mountain that are close each if they are separate that won't be the case and tbb obliterate the mountains. Dnt compare cut and obliterate

 

[Hyakushiki]

It depends on the view point.A Bijuu,unlike susanoo,is something existant.It is a being with body and chakra,while the susanoo is a jutsu.So what are we comparing? Do we compare destruction force? Or defense? I wonder how do you even compare such things at all.Or is it about "Who wins if we put a Bijuu against PS?" .Well that's stupid.It depends on which Bijuu it is,how much chakra Madara has,etc,etc...

I'd say susanoo can hold ground against a Bijuu,even win if it is a weaker one,but the user will most likely die from the exhaustion.Nobody has this much "juice".You know how they say when there is someone INSANELY strong : "His/Her chakra is at Bijuu level!"

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Even if PS is comparable to a Bijuu,I doubt it is comparable to any Bijuu.I just can't see PS take

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fired just like that,like a ball,exploding at point-blank range,and...you know...hold the attack and protect the user.When it comes to Chakra><Chakra and they butt heads a strong Bijuu wil destroy PS.

 

[Gatsuuga]

no. Susano cut 3 mountain that are close each if they are separate that won't be the case and tbb obliterate the mountains. Dnt compare cut and obliterate

Exactly, also people seem to forget that Edo Madara is all powered up on hashi cells, thereby giving him a chakra boost.

 

[Raito]

Exactly, also people seem to forget that Edo Madara is all powered up on hashi cells, thereby giving him a chakra boost.

Hashiramas cells give you a boost to regular techniques?
It is clear that Madara used this Susanoo already in his prime, this Susanoo was confirmed as Madaras true strength and he explained that Susanoos power by itself has such a great power. Madara has only Hashiramas face on his chest in order to use the Mokuton, people overrating the boost of his cells when saying that Madaras EMS techniquen wouldn't be so strong without it.

 

[BloodSeed]

Now I'm a bit confused

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Here madara says his susano is comparable to a tailed beast

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Here in mangareader it says not even a tailed beast is as powerful as susano

what the faq? if you believe that perfect susano>bijuu then you better watch uchiha shippuden not naruto shippuden :rofl:

 

[am no one]

Oh lord, do you at all read the manga?

Tobi is my fav character, but does that make me a fanboy? Fanboys are the guys who overrate, and protect the character with bullshit they create, when did I do that? get your facts straight

I said that the Perfect susanoo is stronger than a bijuu. If you want a proof from the best translation site, here ya go:

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I never call others a fanboy because of they ava or sig, but obviously, you do. Ginn Uchiha says that Naruto is stronger than everyone dead and alive, and that makes him a fanboy.

I know Naruto is strong, but he is still a kid. He won't win against Hashirama, Madara or Tobi, now stop with your stupid comments :sy:



I don't think you understand the fact about Bijuu mode. Bijuu mode = transforme to the bijuu itself, like Bee. If you continue with your stupidity, I will -rep you

u idiot naruto has now tamed the nine taills. the nine tails is the strongest tailed beast u really think just ems madara and nine tails will beat naruto in bm mode. even rennigan will struggle. my advice to u is revise naruto then come back with some revision tips for us.:flaw:lol

 

[sasukexx13]

Perfect susanoo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BM

 

[FloriGlori]

If you need EMS, then why don't Sasuke have a perfect susanoo?

Why doesn't Sasuke use those imane Katon techniques? Madara was said and shown to be a true Sharingan master, while Sasuke isn't, yet. There isn't more to it. When he first obtained his Mangekyou Sharingan he couldn't use Susanoo at all, not to mention the final version. The technique evolves from time to time.

*********** is the only translation i've seen so far who said it, so i believe it's a BS. Even Mangateers says "A Bijuu has a power comparable to this":

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I've also seen french translations and they say the same

That's because the french translation was made by Mangateers, too.

In my opinion, and in my understanding of shown things, ***********'s transaltion is correct; not even the Bijuu can stand up to this perfect Susanoo. Not just that ***********'s translations mostly are the best ones, it also makes sense. Its power is just ridiculous. The Bijuu Dama were praised for each destroying a mountain.

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Now, one could interpret that Masashi purposely showed Susanoo destroying two mountains with one blow, to point out its superiority. But even if one disagrees with that interpretation, matter of fact is that it crushed an entire meteorite and destroyed two distant mountains with the swing of a sword. Without even touching them.

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Furthermore it has, at the very least, two timest the size of a Bijuu. It's the embodiment of overpowerednes. Comparing the other Bijuu to Kurama is futile, since his level exceeds that of he others by far. So, taking that into consideration, Kyuubi's imane power doesn't really contradict Madara's statement.

 

[AI2AM]

Narutobase's translation makes more sense although ***********'s are more reliable. I'll go with what I think makes more sense which is PS is comparable to a Bijuu. I think it's kind of weird that having Ems Madara is stronger than a bijuu.

i love your signature. that picture is awesome

 

[Stark]

Manga streams translation is more relevant and accurate. So yes it is stronger than a tailed beast.

 

[0jordinio0]

Look man, you're all beginning to do my freaking head in now, everytime I come on this site and check the threads it's always a bunch of fanboys, mostly Uchiha fanboys spouting their shit.

On terms of power, Naruto who has access to Kurama's power is now the most powerful! It's as simple as that.

Now don't start your fanboy bitching yet you little annoyances, just because he has the most power now does not make him the strongest, he may have the most power but canon Naruto is a retard with little skill at all because he refuses to grow up!

Now on the accounts of perfect susanoo vs Bijudama, by the looks of it the susanoo use's a cutting type attack to cut the mountains apart while the bijudama is an explosive type attack and outright destroys whatever it hits, you can't compare these attacks because in terms of raw power the bijudama takes more, do you really think a non- jinchuuriki can just throw out attack after attack that costs that much chakra? Don't be ridiculous if they already had that much chakra then what's the point of the bijuu at all?

On the terms of Sasuke not having the perfect susanoo yet? He's had his EMS what? Half a day? Half a day and you Uchiha fanboy's already want him to get another powerup? You're all freaking disgraces to the human race, I feel shame that I come from the same species.

Debate over! Bijuu have more power and the susanoo has more accuracy/finesse.

This isn't open for debate, good fight but it's over now get on with your miserable lives.

 

[true enigma]

Why doesn't Sasuke use those imane Katon techniques? Madara was said and shown to be a true Sharingan master, while Sasuke isn't, yet. There isn't more to it. When he first obtained his Mangekyou Sharingan he couldn't use Susanoo at all, not to mention the final version. The technique evolves from time to time.


That's because the french translation was made by Mangateers, too.

In my opinion, and in my understanding of shown things, ***********'s transaltion is correct; not even the Bijuu can stand up to this perfect Susanoo. Not just that ***********'s translations mostly are the best ones, it also makes sense. Its power is just ridiculous. The Bijuu Dama were praised for each destroying a mountain.

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Now, one could interpret that Masashi purposely showed Susanoo destroying two mountains with one blow, to point out its superiority. But even if one disagrees with that interpretation, matter of fact is that it crushed an entire meteorite and destroyed two distant mountains with the swing of a sword. Without even touching them.

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Furthermore it has, at the very least, two timest the size of a Bijuu. It's the embodiment of overpowerednes. Comparing the other Bijuu to Kurama is futile, since his level exceeds that of he others by far. So, taking that into consideration, Kyuubi's imane power doesn't really contradict Madara's statement.

Very well said... I agree with the above. Plus nine tails is overrated in this thread, he was used as madaras tool and basicly is his toy. From the get go the strongest bijuu cant compare to his tech so it shudnt be hard to believe.

 

[Jonesy161]

1.) Madara said a single swing from this Perfect Susano'o sword can destroy mountains. Naruto was slicing mountains and mountain sized trees with his Rasen-Shurinken alone.

2.) A single swipe with Kurama's tail can flatten mountains according to those who fought it in the past. Perfect Susano'o has 2 swords, Kurama has 9 tails.

3.) Kurama has the Bijuu Ball which can do even more destruction from very long distances. The only long range attacks Susano'o has been shown to use were Yasaka Magatama and only in Sasuke's Susano'o, a bow and arrow.

4.) Susano'o is a projection using the Uchiha's chakra, pure chakra. Uchihas are renowned for their eyesight but very low amounts of chakra. BM uses the Bijuu's own chakra to form and Kurama is said to have an unlimited amount of chakra (although that statement is being pushed in Kurama and Naruto's fight with Tobi).


To be honest, I doubt Madara fought Kurama in the past with Perfect Susano'o since he only needed EMS to control it. How would he know to what extent he can push Perfect Susano'o? Further more, Naruto has gained the trust of pretty much all 9 Bijuus. If he can rip them from Tobi's control, he doesn't need to seal them all into him. He'll have all 9 fighting together against Perfect Susano'o. There's no way 1 Uchiha's chakra will sustain 9 Bijuus.

Furthermore it has, at the very least, two timest the size of a Bijuu. It's the embodiment of overpowerednes. Comparing the other Bijuu to Kurama is futile, since his level exceeds that of he others by far. So, taking that into consideration, Kyuubi's imane power doesn't really contradict Madara's statement.

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Look how big Kurama is at the moment on the battlefield with Tobi. That size wasn't even half the size of the TRUE Kurama. If anything, by cutting Kurama's size and leaving pratically his entire power, Minato made Kurama faster, more deadly and a large force to be reckoned with. It's one thing fighting a fast monster that's like 2x the size of Perfect Susanoo, but fighting that same one with exact power and smaller? Good luck keeping up with it, it's speed has just skyrocketed.

I think with all that said, this thread is now pointless...

 

[TheKyuubiIchigo]

Ok, imma keep this quick. 1 swing of PS's sword slices mountains,
Whereas for Kurama,
Being the strongest of the nine tailed beasts, Kurama can create tsunamis and flatten mountains with just a single swipe from one of its tails.With its massive supply of chakra, it can turn its roar into a powerful shock wave that can repel and destroy anything within its radius, increase its physical strength and speed, and fire Tailed Beast Balls.

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[TheKyuubiIchigo]

1.) Madara said a single swing from this Perfect Susano'o sword can destroy mountains. Naruto was slicing mountains and mountain sized trees with his Rasen-Shurinken alone.

2.) A single swipe with Kurama's tail can flatten mountains according to those who fought it in the past. Perfect Susano'o has 2 swords, Kurama has 9 tails.

3.) Kurama has the Bijuu Ball which can do even more destruction from very long distances. The only long range attacks Susano'o has been shown to use were Yasaka Magatama and only in Sasuke's Susano'o, a bow and arrow.

4.) Susano'o is a projection using the Uchiha's chakra, pure chakra. Uchihas are renowned for their eyesight but very low amounts of chakra. BM uses the Bijuu's own chakra to form and Kurama is said to have an unlimited amount of chakra (although that statement is being pushed in Kurama and Naruto's fight with Tobi).


To be honest, I doubt Madara fought Kurama in the past with Perfect Susano'o since he only needed EMS to control it. How would he know to what extent he can push Perfect Susano'o? Further more, Naruto has gained the trust of pretty much all 9 Bijuus. If he can rip them from Tobi's control, he doesn't need to seal them all into him. He'll have all 9 fighting together against Perfect Susano'o. There's no way 1 Uchiha's chakra will sustain 9 Bijuus.

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Look how big Kurama is at the moment on the battlefield with Tobi. That size wasn't even half the size of the TRUE Kurama. If anything, by cutting Kurama's size and leaving pratically his entire power, Minato made Kurama faster, more deadly and a large force to be reckoned with. It's one thing fighting a fast monster that's like 2x the size of Perfect Susanoo, but fighting that same one with exact power and smaller? Good luck keeping up with it, it's speed has just skyrocketed.

I think with all that said, this thread is now pointless...

Well said bro!