[Discussion] Is Oda drawing too many parallels between Luffy and the pirate king???

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I mean I get the basic stuff...But Luffy have to be of the EXACT same character as the pirate king. And he has to wear the EXACT same hat...And Luffy's second-in-command, Zoro has to be EXACTLY like Rayleigh...How is Luffy his own thing then? He's just doing the exact same thing someone else has already done...
 

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Yeah, but still, those similarities are nothing compared to the retarded & redundant parallels in Naruto. So in a way, it's not that bad. However, that aside, it is quite annoying. And I just pray to God that Roger doesn't also posses the "greatest power in the seas" - the power to turn people into allies.
 
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I thought u wld mention the buggy-lounge town incident or Luffy's smile and the little stuff coz if u remove what u mention then Luffy won't be a mirror of Gol D more than anyone in the current generation of pirates. The hat holds the most significance in op seeing as Roger gave it to Shanks(more or less approving Shanks his heir of sorts and Shanks kinda did by that friendly meet that went sour toward the end with WB as WB and roger were enemies but later friends) Shanks then pass the crown over to Luffy but tis is the crown of pirates u don't just don it without earning/fighting for it. Though in the same position as Rayleigh, Zoro is a lot different IMO if Rayleigh had had a bad sense of direction then ya that wld have been ''what the shiz''. The name thing is something that's to b explained so just sit tight secure yo hats and hold on to yo peticots Oda is about to rock the mangaverse with the masterpiece that is one piece. It kinda got long but hey 1piece is magnificence defined.
 

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Yeah, but still, those similarities are nothing compared to the retarded & redundant parallels in Naruto. So in a way, it's not that bad. However, that aside, it is quite annoying. And I just pray to God that Roger doesn't also posses the "greatest power in the seas" - the power to turn people into allies.
lol mihawk said that if i remember correctly.

OT: the gum gum fruit makes luffy unique :D
 

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Yeah, but still, those similarities are nothing compared to the retarded & redundant parallels in Naruto. So in a way, it's not that bad. However, that aside, it is quite annoying. And I just pray to God that Roger doesn't also posses the "greatest power in the seas" - the power to turn people into allies.
You make it look as if Naruto is some kind of yardstick for measuring any other manga out there. Keep it about OP only. Avoid starting silly fan wars.
 

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zoro=rayleigh
Garp=Coby
Luffy=Roger
Buggy=ussop
Blackbeard&kid=shiki
sengoku=Smoker
Law=whitebeard

In naruto you only got sasuke and naruto.....
hohohoh trust me dude you don't wanna start this

naruto=hashirama
naruto= 4th hokage
naruto=jman
naruto= the sage
naruto = obito when he was young
naruto=nagato
naruto=old kakashi
sasuke=madara
sasuke=oro
sasuke=young kakashi
sasuke=tobi/obito
itachi=shusi
itachi=shusi's father
sakura =tsunade
lee= his sensei
and the list go on
 

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So? I don't really see what the problem is with that.

Reality is we still don't know very much about Roger. Everything we know is still quite superficial and yes what we know strongly resembles Luffy, however Oda wrote it in such a way that this isn't just Roger-Luffy, but a group of people namely the 'D'. Whitebeard even specifically said Roger himself was waiting for certain people.

Also till know I didn't really get the impression that Roger is such a goofball a Luffy. Even though they look similar, Roger always appeared to me like a clever man. Even when he would do outrageous, insane stuff, he comes over like there is still a calculating mind behind. With Luffy there is no calculation, it's almost like his head is empty. I mean it has been pointed out a few times by now in the manga that, without his nakama, his ship would probably sink in a flash. Not to mention Roger, even though they even look similar, appears like a wild man that's mad, happy and just crazy at the same time all the time, while Luffy just appears like a happy goofball.

I mean in Naruto everyone could see from miles away that Naruto was the son of Minato and then seeing Roger and Luffy you expect there is some kind of a connection (even if the times don't match). Then suddenly he's the son of the worlds biggest criminal, Ace is his foster brother and then Ace is Roger's son! (still pissed at the person who ruined this for me as I wasn't at that chapter yet).

I don't even see a connection between Zoro and Rayleigh other than that both of them have a vertical scar over their left eye. Both personality and appearance wise they barely resemble each other.

Yes there are some parallels, but overall they are still very different. Oda makes Luffy appear as the same type of person as Roger, but he isn't Roger, he is definitely Luffy.
 

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This reminds me of all the "parallels" between Naruto and Hashirama people jumped to point out just because Hashirama wasn't as serious as expected. A few chapters later we saw that this wasn't the case at all and this ceased.

As for Roger, I have seen very little of him as I have yet to catch up with the manga but he looks different than Luffy since he was also more mature.
You can argue that maybe he was as crazy and random as Luffy when he was younger but that is only speculation. He doesn't give me that "randomness" impression that defines Luffy. So hints have to be there so that the reader gets accustomed with the idea that Luffy is pirate-king-material.

Comparisons and parallels are obviously bound to be there since Roger was the king and Luffy wants to be the king. He definitely isn't "en route" to become a copy of Roger though.
 

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zoro=rayleigh
Garp=Coby
Luffy=Roger
Buggy=ussop
Blackbeard&kid=shiki
sengoku=Smoker
Law=whitebeard

In naruto you only got sasuke and naruto.....
zoro=Rayleigh-YES/NO both swordsmen for a Pirate King(Luffy eventually will get that title) but Zoro is more a parallel to Mihawk and that's a stretch Zoro is unique with his fighting style attitude and sense of direction.
Garp=Coby-NO
Luffy=Roger-YES
Buggy=ussop-NO unless you're claiming Usopp will be given the title of Shichibuki under false pretenses also one's a swordsman and the other is a sniper, ones a captain the other isn't.
Blackbeard&kid=shiki-NO and if you need 2 characters to make up one that's not a parallel
sengoku=Smoker-NO
Law=whitebeard-NO

I'm not 100% sure you know what a parallel is.
 

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Things like Roger having the same hat, Rayleigh seeing Roger in Luffy when he said that he wanted to be the most free man, the voice of all things, pretty similar personality from what've seen, and a couple of other parallels are pretty annoying. Then again, most shounen have parallels with previous generations... and the new generations usually surpasses the previous one. Will definitely happen in OP too. What also will happen is that we're going to get more Luffy-Roger parallels, just so that Oda will be sure that we know how incredibly similar they are

I never liked drawing obvious parallels with the previous generation(s) in any manga

I don't even see a connection between Zoro and Rayleigh other than that both of them have a vertical scar over their left eye. Both personality and appearance wise they barely resemble each other
Both first mates are swordsmen, and they like alcohol if that helps understanding why people think they are a like. imo, they also aren't that different in personality.

edit: why are there like 7 posts comparing it to Naruto. The OP said nothing about Naruto
 
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