Is Naruto's speed still an issue for Sasuke?

[Seventh Sama]

If naruto went full speed in bsm..... gg sasuke

 

[juzumaki]

you are high if you think this breaks PS

you notice madara had to return the blast instead of susanoo right

 

[xxSAGExx]

Not at all. In fact, Sasuke was easily able to read Obito's movements whilst Naruto was having difficulty doing so. He was the first one to make a strike as well. There is no way in hell Sasuke won't be able to react to Naruto. That is fanfiction now.

Not Easily, he was still a bit too slow in reacting to actually hit him plus Sasuke has being using his sharingan for years so it's nothing new to read movements even if EMS improve the reading ability. Naruto is new to his powers, that was his 2nd time in BSM and first time using his new sensory.

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At Base Level Sasuke is not slower than Alive Minato without FTG. This can be easily proven how Sasuke evaded C2's blat Radius completely when it was extremely large - so large, that the dragon Deidara was riding appeared to be much smaller in comparison.

I believe Sasuke is slower than base Minato, Deidara isn't known for his speed feats. Sasuke speed was still slower than Itachi's and Kakashi was on Sasuke's speed level. Naruto base was fast enough to take Sakura before Sasuke could stab her and he was fast enough to not be sensed by Sasuke or Kakashi. Base Minato saved baby Naruto from Obito who complimented Minato and said he deserves the name the yellow flash.

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There were no seals for it to be FTG.

Before, all if not most were of the persuasion that Naruto's speed would be too much for Sasuke. He'd get blitzed before he could do anything. But now, he could keep up with Juubito and was doing so quite well. Obviously Naruto's speed won't just become a non factor, and would still give Sasuke trouble, but can Sasuke handle it now?

Sasuke's sight can most likely see Naruto's speed but he doesn't have the speed to react in close combat, he would need Susanoo up for defense. Also Naruto can use clones to blitz which would make it much harder for Sasuke to track them all.

 

[FlemSmack]

If we go by feats Sasuke should get one shot by Naruto.

Would never happen in the manga obviously, but it should be explained why he can keep up because from what I have seen of max speed Naruto it wouldn't make sense for Sasuke to be able to deal with it.

Sasuke is multiple tiers below Naruto in speed.

 

[slimreaper]

you notice madara had to return the blast instead of susanoo right

that was kishi trying to portray the abilities of the fan. stop bullshitting, what feats does a mini tbb have to suggest it can even scratch PS?

PS tanked a full tbb Without even a scratch, but yeah a mini tbb is going to break it

 

[xxSAGExx]

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that was kishi trying to portray the abilities of the fan. stop bullshitting, what feats does a mini tbb have to suggest it can even scratch PS?

PS tanked a full tbb Without even a scratch, but yeah a mini tbb is going to break it

Well Tsuande and A (with Oonoki help) were cracking and smashing Madara's Susanoo and Susanoo does have weak points as Danzo shown. But I'll rate is as KM>EMS (up to Final Susanoo) and then BM>EMS (PS). With Final susanoo, Naruto can use chakra arms to attack from below

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, Kurama did it but he can tell Naruto to do it or switch and do it himself.

 

[slimreaper]

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Well Tsuande and A (with Oonoki help) were cracking and smashing Madara's Susanoo and Susanoo does have weak points as Danzo shown. But I'll rate is as KM>EMS (up to Final Susanoo) and then BM>EMS (PS). With Final susanoo, Naruto can use chakra arms to attack from below

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, Kurama did it but he can tell Naruto to do it or switch and do it himself.

how do you attack form below something with feet

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notice neither cracked a final susanoo such as this

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this from of susanoo has yet to be even slight damaged in the series

 

[Naijakid]

Sasuke can't touch what he can't see

 

[xxSAGExx]

how do you attack form below something with feet

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notice neither cracked a final susanoo such as this

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this from of susanoo has yet to be even slight damaged in the series

I said up to Final Susanoo, I put Leg Susanoo over Final because he shown to have final before legged Susanoo and MS Sasuke had Final Susanoo

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. So my post is still valid.

As for the cracking or damage, Look what A did with Oonoki

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, That's the same type of Susanoo as the Leg Susanoo that you showed of Sasuke's. You switched it up, Final Susanoo is what can be attacked from underground while Leg Susanoo can be cracked or broken. Tsunade even broke Madara's leg Susanoo's swords which are made of the same chakra as Susanoo.

I believe a barrage of Oodama rasengans can crack or damage the Leg Susanoo while mini tbb breaks it. KM Naruto broke boulders just from trying to hold it, he had to train to be gentle with his chakra arms so it's save to say KM has some physically strength as well, we just don't know it's full extent.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Obito didn't use Shunshin in that scan.

When he did Naruto, Tobirama, Sasuke and Hashirama got fodderised.

 

[Oblivionx]

At Base Level Sasuke is not slower than Alive Minato without FTG. This can be easily proven how Sasuke evaded C2's blat Radius completely when it was extremely large - so large, that the dragon Deidara was riding appeared to be much smaller in comparison.

now that was a nice joke...! XD

 

[GrayParadise]

>sasuke
>keeping up with juubito

 

[slimreaper]

I said up to Final Susanoo, I put Leg Susanoo over Final because he shown to have final before legged Susanoo and MS Sasuke had Final Susanoo

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. So my post is still valid.

As for the cracking or damage, Look what A did with Oonoki

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, That's the same type of Susanoo as the Leg Susanoo that you showed of Sasuke's. You switched it up, Final Susanoo is what can be attacked from underground while Leg Susanoo can be cracked or broken. Tsunade even broke Madara's leg Susanoo's swords which are made of the same chakra as Susanoo.

I believe a barrage of Oodama rasengans can crack or damage the Leg Susanoo while mini tbb breaks it. KM Naruto broke boulders just from trying to hold it, he had to train to be gentle with his chakra arms so it's save to say KM has some physically strength as well, we just don't know it's full extent.

the susanoo may be of the same type but the one sasuke is using is far larger. their strength isn't really comparable.


do you think a tiny susanoo like this

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could have accomplished this

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sasuke's susanoo is massive compared to his first one and thus has more defensive capabilities

 

[Brooks]

Naruto can't even use his speed correctly let alone speedblitz someone who is tracking a sub-relativistic Juubito...​

 

[VolatileSoul]

KCM > Sasuke in speed. Which is obvious...
BM Fodderizes Sasuke in speed.


It's just as he said before. His sharingan can keep up with a very fast opponent. However, his body can't react fast enough. Like when he fought Ay. He went to stab him in the heart, but couldn't react to the liger bomb in time. Which is why he activated his susanoo.

Sasuke could keep up with Naruto with his pre-cognition, but his reactions are not up to par. Seen when he got bamboozled by Killer Bee 3 times.

I didn't mean if Sasuke could match Naruto's speed, I meant if he could follow and react to it. He did react to the Liger Bomb though. It doesn't matter much if his body can't keep up, as long as Susano'o can.

even base naruto speed=sasuke speed

No it isn't.

I kind of forget but what speed feats did juubito display? I can't really remember any besides when juubito blitzed naruto and sasuke, both of which got owned. After that i can only remember distant collaboration Jutsu getting used against him.

I'm not trying to underrate sasuke here since I'm also struggling to think of a time anyone hit juubito without a collaboration Jutsu and even then most we're at range. Keeping up would suggest they can go toe to toe in taijutsu which no one has been shown to be capable of.

Edit: also hashi and tobirama got blitzed and owned so really no one on the battlefield has been able to keep up.

Did you forget Naruto and Sasuke adjusting to his speed? The both had trouble at first but then adjusted to him and even forced him on the defensive for a short time.

Sasuke couldn't follow Minato's speed movement, so i'm sure it's still an issue

I don't remember him having trouble with Minato's speed. Not like it matters, as Obito blitzed Minato, while Sasuke was reacting to that.

Naruto avoided the 4th Raikage punch something Sasuke could not and the Raikage said only Minato was ever able to do that. Sasuke is fast but He can't copy speed base on Kurama power sines He dose not have tail beast chakra in Him.

I didn't mean if Sasuke could match the speed, but if he could follow it and react to it.

1. Sasuke was caught off guard when he got picked up, trying to go through the Raikage, just as I said. Yes he reacted to the liger bomb, but he couldn't see through what he was trying to do. The susanoo was merely a defensive mechanism.

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2. Beed was flying straight at Sasuke. Sasuke's pre-cog was able to see through his attack, this he adjusted his trajectory and bounced off Bee's neck

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I wouldn't even consider that a feat, as they were both mid-air. The only thing that saved Sasuke was his pre-cog. That just happened to be a time where Bee couldn't do anything but go right past him. If they were on the ground, he would have followed up the attack with another, just as he did the first two times he beat Sasuke up.

3. Unconventional or not, that's like claiming a street fighter isn't fighting fair when you're using Karate. It's a fight, use what you can to win. Sasuke didn't have what it took to beat him in a pure kenjutsu fight. Bee's speed was too fast. Had it been a normal man with those swords, Sasuke would have been able to shit on him, no difficulty. However, Bee was extremely fast, and the interval between each attack was so small, the sharingan was not able to read the movements.

4. I agree, speed is inconsistent, however Sasuke has just recently received his pre-cog upgrade, while he has had the EMS for quite some time now.

5. Sasuke's speed max out isn't even comparable to Naruto's... XD

@SMD; You're yelling out KCM's speed is inconsistent, and yet, I have a feeling you have no idea what the concept behind that even means. Even if the speed is inconsistent, KCM's fastest still trumps Sasuke's fastest...

Notice all of these examples are of a weaker Sasuke. You might as well have brought up how part one Sasuke got blitzed by Lee. This is relevant only to the current Sasuke. He doesn't need to match the speed, just follow and react to it. I simply want to know if Sasuke can do this considering Naruto's speed.

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That had nothing to do with Sasuke being unable to track Minato. He wasn't paying Minato any attention and was simply surprised as to why he stopped Kakashi.

 

[Minator93]

If Naruto goes for blitz mode then its all over for Sausage U_U

 

[YellowFang]

Yep, it is...
As far as the point is, whether Sasuke will be able to see through Naruto's speed? Yes, he will...
But would he be able to react to it? No, for an example
If Naruto approaches Sasuke un-predictably with high speed, Sasuke'd be able to keep track of him... But in case Naruto throws an attack or two, Sasuke will definitely be cornered...

 

[Bronze]

EMS ability to read movements will come in handy to Sasuke when facing his rival Uzumaki Naruto. Whether Naruto's speed is an issue for the latter or not, Sasuke's ability to read movements have been portrayed. The young Uchiha was able to see the high speed of flying Obito.

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Not only he read the movements of the progenitor of everything's jinchuriki, but he reacted to his speed as well.

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Uchiha Obito is much faster than what Naruto's speed feats have been shown so far. Sasuke has the eyes and reaction to keep up with the young Uzumaki. So in both manga and my opinion, i do not think Naruto's speed will be an issue to Uchiha Sasuke.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto's speed is a non factor against Sasuke offensively.

1. He was tracking Juubito's movements, who is faster than Naruto.

2. Susanoo makes speed useless, cause any surprise attacks he initiates with speed can be tanked.

3. Naruto's speed is only that great in his Human form without the Kurama Avatar, and if he fights without it against Sasuke he'll get raped.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Naruto's speed is a non factor against Sasuke offensively.

1. He was tracking Juubito's movements, who is faster than Naruto.

2. Susanoo makes speed useless, cause any surprise attacks he initiates with speed can be tanked.

3. Naruto's speed is only that great in his Human form without the Kurama Avatar, and if he fights without it against Sasuke he'll get raped.

How is Obito faster than Naruto? Naruto speed was compared to Minato's and Minato is faster than Obito still since he's instant so wouldn't Naruto speed still be greater than Obito's? The speed I'm talking about is Naruto's full speed which he only used 3x and all 3 times he was compared to Minato. Naruto doesn't have control over this speed yet so he rarely use it, he never finished his training after-all. When Naruto first used it, Yamato said Naruto wasn't good at it yet:

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, Naruto only managed to match A's speed at first but used his full speed when A attacked him with his fastest attack:

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and the 3rd time was when he first went BM and deflected 5 tbb:

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We seen Minato and Tobirama to still be faster than Obito with FTG, Tobirama taking the tbb Obito put on Minato and returned it to Obito was awesome:
And Minato FTG Sasuke and Naruto away before Obito could kill them, and he did fight toe to toe with Obito and only lose an arm while the other kages had large parts of their body destroyed. Naruto's full speed still looks to be faster than Obito but he lacks the control from lack of training.