Is Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode stronger than Hagoromo's Six Paths Mode?

[Bronze]

Before the power-up, Naruto only had access to the spiritual plane in order to talk to the Tailed Beasts. Only AFTER getting the power-up from the Sage was he able to use their powers. The link is present whenever he uses their chakra... against Madara, against Kaguya. Any scans of Naruto using their power before the power-up? No, because he couldn't.

No, there is no such thing as spiritual plane or monkey crap you're spouting. He didn't need to use their powers for the simple fact he didn't need to. Getting a piece of Bijuu's Chakra allows you to access to their powers; example being Kinkaku and Ginkaku who could use V2 cloak from the portion of Chakra they ate from Kurama's flesh. Oh yeah, I'm still waiting for the scan...but it doesn't exist, so don't bother wasting your minutes of your life looking for it.

Rikudou Senjutsu means Six Paths Sage Chakra, which is different from Rikudou Sennin Modo, which is Six Paths Sage Mode. It refers to the type of chakra, not the type of cloak.

Sage Chakra means Senjutsu Chakra, and if you contribute the name with Rikudou as a whole sentence, it becomes Six Paths Sage Chakra. The cloak manifests the Chakra, you dense.

Rikudou's chakra acted as a medium for Naruto to be able to use the Tailed-Beasts' power and also enhance his Sage Mode. C'mon, it's not that hard to understand.

All of this nonsense had been addressed, but you're continuing to argue from invisible view.

 

[Zzz]

No, there is no such thing as spiritual plane or monkey crap you're spouting. He didn't need to use their powers for the simple fact he didn't need to. Getting a piece of Bijuu's Chakra allows you to access to their powers; example being Kinkaku and Ginkaku who could use V2 cloak from the portion of Chakra they ate from Kurama's flesh. Oh yeah, I'm still waiting for the scan...but it doesn't exist, so don't bother wasting your minutes of your life looking for it.



Sage Chakra means Senjutsu Chakra, and if you contribute the name with Rikudou as a whole sentence, it becomes Six Paths Sage Chakra. The cloak manifests the Chakra, you dense.



All of this nonsense had been addressed, but you're continuing to argue from invisible view.

He didn't need to? Lmao. He got his ass whooped left and right from Obito. He totally didn't need to use it. Show me scans of Naruto using the powers of the Bijuu before the power-up... oh, right.
The plane is the blank place where Naruto met the Bijuu. *facepalm*

You said "Senjutsu" means "Sage Mode", so now you're changing it? Cool.
The cloak is the result of the manifestation of the chakra, which means RSM is a result of the Senjutsu's manifestation, not the Senjutsu itself.

You haven't yet shown me facts to prove otherwise. I can show you Naruto's using the chakra of the Bijuu after the power-up, but you can't show me usage before the power-up.

 

[KidGamer65]

RSM>Ten Tail's Coffin Seal, but don't confuse that for Naruto>Hagoromo. Naruto has the superior mode, but Hagoromo is still above him.

 

[Bronze]

The NB is so retarded...so much it's beyond my thoughts.

He didn't need to? Lmao. He got his ass whooped left and right from Obito. He totally didn't need to use it. Show me scans of Naruto using the powers of the Bijuu before the power-up... oh, right.
The plane is the blank place where Naruto met the Bijuu. *facepalm*

Do you read the manga? Naruto used it when he took the Bijuu out of Obito's body. That was before your ''link''.

You said "Senjutsu" means "Sage Mode", so now you're changing it? Cool.
The cloak is the result of the manifestation of the chakra, which means RSM is a result of the Senjutsu's manifestation, not the Senjutsu itself.

No, I didn't change definition for SM. Senjutsu is when physical and spiritual energies are merged with Natural Energy. Sage Mode is basically the mode for Senjutsu. What you just said in your last sentence is literally the same thing.

You haven't yet shown me facts to prove otherwise. I can show you Naruto's using the chakra of the Bijuu after the power-up, but you can't show me usage before the power-up.

But you can't show me any Hagoromo link? Lol.

Last reply, idiot. Go read the manga.

 

[Zzz]

RSM>Ten Tail's Coffin Seal, but don't confuse that for Naruto>Hagoromo. Naruto has the superior mode, but Hagoromo is still above him.

That's what I'm implying.

 

[Zzz]

The NB is so retarded...so much it's beyond my thoughts.



Do you read the manga? Naruto used it when he took the Bijuu out of Obito's body. That was before your ''link''.



No, I didn't change definition for SM. Senjutsu is when physical and spiritual energies are merged with Natural Energy. Sage Mode is basically the mode for Senjutsu. What you just said in your last sentence is literally the same thing.



But you can't show me any Hagoromo link? Lol.

Last reply, idiot. Go read the manga.

1. That was the chakra making contact with each other, he didn't use it for an attack... Tug of war doesn't necessarily mean usage. Show me a Magnet Release Rasengan, show me a Yoton RS, show me a TBBRS. Right, all you have is tug of war, which is not a manifestation.
He had their chakra, but he wasn't able to manifest it prior to the power-up.

2. Seems we meant the same thing, whatever.

3. The fact that he only used the powers of the beasts after the power-up shows the link. *facepalm*

Learn to debate without offending the others, sir. You are thinking you are superior, but yet you're not showing any usage of that chakra in terms of manifestation. Glad you're not gonna respond, you just ruined the whole thread by spouting bullshit.

 

[VongolaX]

Hagoromoo's is stronger, that's not even up to debate.

RSM receieved fragments of all nine bijuu chakras while coffin bijuu seal recieved the whole bijuu itself.

Naruto's skill was the individual aid of each bijuu via rasengan.

As the juubi jinchuuriki they can most likely do the same or summon the bijuu itself to do it for him.

 

[Omar19992010]

Hey guys,

We all know that Naruto obtained the RSM using the chakra Hagoromo gave him and the power of each Tailed Beast. Thus, a form similar to the Ten-Tails Coffin Seal-mode was obtained, however, with access to each Beast's abilities individually as well as better reflexes and speed capabilities.

On the other hand, Hagoromo had his own massive chakra which was enhanced by the Ten-Tails'. What he lacks here is the actual ability to use each Tailed-Beast's powers, as they were divided later.

Which one is stronger and why? Give reasons.

Naruto's RM was stronger if we're saying that Hagoromo has the same Six Paths Sage Mode as Madara.

Unlike Juubi Jinchūriki's like Madara and Obito, Naruto is working together with the Tailed beasts and has all there Co-operation unlike JJ who are pretty much just using the Juubi's Power.

 

[Zee U]

Question is: does Hagoromo have Ten Tails Coffin Seal or Rikudou Sage Mode? It's not made clear by the manga. If the former, Naruto has better senjutsu.

 

[Transcendence]

Naruto's is superior.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Naruto's senjutsu should be stronger. After all, he overloads his chakra with natural energy.

 

[Xlad]

Naruto's RSM is superior to Hagoromo's SM. But that doesn't make himself superior to the old man.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Hagoromo had the Gedo Mazo and Rabbit within him unlike Naruto so its definitely stronger. If Hagoromo had the Goududama + Rinnegan then it's safe to say he was smart enough to learn how to use all 5 elements as well as KKG elements without needing separate bijuu chakras.. Also created tailed beasts with his COAT, Naruto only managed an eye so far... Hagoromo also inherited a stronger base mode than Naruto since his mother was also the 10tails.. :l
Sage 6paths mode > Naruto 6 paths mode

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

Question is: does Hagoromo have Ten Tails Coffin Seal or Rikudou Sage Mode? It's not made clear by the manga. If the former, Naruto has better senjutsu.

He wouldn't have the Coffin Seal, considering he had a Six Paths Sage mode before he became Juubi Jin.

Edit: Sorry, he does have the Coffin Seal, but only upon becoming a Jin.

 

[ARGUS]

Question is: does Hagoromo have Ten Tails Coffin Seal or Rikudou Sage Mode? It's not made clear by the manga. If the former, Naruto has better senjutsu.

he probably has both of them, ten-tails coffin seal only when hes a jin
rikudo senjutsu is Hagoromos senjutsu derived from his yang component which naruto recieved directly from him
one could only speculate on hagoromo having RSM itself but logic dictates that he should have it,

 

[Holy God]

The Six Paths Sage Mode of Kaguya, Hagoromo, and Madara are all superior to Naruto's. This mode is the result of the combined chakra of the tailed beasts, and since he has the least amount of it, his will be inferior.

 

[KidGamer65]

Six Paths Sage Mode is Naruto's Sage Mode on steroids. So no, Hagoromo doesn't have it as he doesn't have Sage Mode to all who are wondering.