Is minato still top ten?

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Or Minato did not want to use regular Kunai? Seals have no weight.



Tobirama did not state FTG with a clone was slow. Read the VIZ. Tobirama can use it. It is marking a Kunai and teleporting to it. Absence of Evidence =/= Evidence of Absence. Do you need the VIZ scan?
Lol so you honestly think that the ftg seal can be placed on a normal kunai handle?...lol smh
 
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Obviously you do not know what Shunshin means. Shunshin is a high speed movement ninjutsu, an equivalent to Bleach's flash step. Not FTG.



I hope you are joking. They can put a seal on tangible objects, manga fact.
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I know what Shushin means. as you can see the manga translations use the FTG and Shunshin Interchangeably since technically its both talking about speed.It might be the translators fault, but Tobirama was talking about the justu.
 

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I hope you are joking. They can put a seal on tangible objects, manga fact.
Ofcourse I knw that...
but what is the point of usng that paper like thing on Kunai...?
If they can mark regular Kunai like u said Minato can do that while fightng ..there is no need for that much preparation..!

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I know what Shushin means. as you can see the manga translations use the FTG and Shunshin Interchangeably since technically its both talking about speed.It might be the translators fault, but Tobirama was talking about the justu.
No? Shunshin in the context you shown was correct. Shunshin as in running to the battlefield is what Tobirama was talking about. Minato did not FTG to the battlefield. He ran, or used "Shunshin".

Lol so you honestly think that the ftg seal can be placed on a normal kunai handle?...lol smh
Why not? Please, enlighten me? Is it because your Lord Minato couldn't or did not?

 

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Tobirama teleported to Juubito while he was moving and flying in the air.. That means Minato V2 FTG is = to Tobirama regular FTG
You high?...obito's body wasn't in motion ....he was just floating in air and was still ...this isn't dbz when the character hover up and down while floating in air!!!!
 

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Or Minato did not want to use regular Kunai? Seals have no weight.



Tobirama did not state FTG with a clone was slow. Read the VIZ. Tobirama can use it. It is marking a Kunai and teleporting to it. Absence of Evidence =/= Evidence of Absence. Do you need the VIZ scan?
Tobirama attacked Obito with his clone and realized that Obito's defence is fast enough to defend himself from Tobirama's clone attack,which is slower than actual one

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U can check it in Tran's if u want Tobirama say's that "he blocked it in an Instant".....

So they decided to attack with thire original bodies so that they can Mange to hit him b4 Obito manage to activate his defence,They took the advantage of EDO since they dnt die even if Obito Mange to attack any of them(They dnt knw that Obito can kill EDO's at that time)....!
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Clone's won't cut it = Clone's won't make it in time = clone's can't hit Obito b4 he activate his Defence

I have already told u Manga fact >>ur own Assumption...!
 

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I know what Shushin means. as you can see the manga translations use the FTG and Shunshin Interchangeably since technically its both talking about speed.It might be the translators fault, but Tobirama was talking about the justu.
No, he wasn't there's no way they teleported to the battlefield, first and third Hokage can't teleport.. And both Tobirama and Minato didn't have seals at the battlefield either, and they both need seals to teleport
 

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Tobirama attacked Obito with his clone and realized that Obito's defence is fast enough to defend himself from Tobirama's clone attack,which is slower than actual one

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U can check it in Tran's if u want Tobirama say's that "he blocked it in an Instant".....

So they decided to attack with thire original bodies so that they can Mange to hit him b4 Obito manage to activate his defence,They took the advantage of EDO since they dnt die even if Obito Mange to attack any of them(They dnt knw that Obito can kill EDO's at that time)....!
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Clone's won't cut it = Clone's won't make it in time = clone's can't hit Obito b4 he activate his Defence

I have already told u Manga fact >>ur own Assumption...!
FTG = FTG

bcoz FTG is instant, Tobirama already used FTG with a clone, and there was no indication that it was ''slower''
 

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Tobirama attacked Obito with his clone and realized that Obito's defence is fast enough to defend himself from Tobirama's clone attack,which is slower than actual one

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U can check it in Tran's if u want Tobirama say's that "he blocked it in an Instant".....

So they decided to attack with thire original bodies so that they can Mange to hit him b4 Obito manage to activate his defence,They took the advantage of EDO since they dnt die even if Obito Mange to attack any of them(They dnt knw that Obito can kill EDO's at that time)....!
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Clone's won't cut it = Clone's won't make it in time = clone's can't hit Obito b4 he activate his Defence

I have already told u Manga fact >>ur own Assumption...!
Manga Fact? It is not a manga fact. Your are assuming just like I am. Only except mine is more plausible. U_U
 

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No? Shunshin in the context you shown was correct. Shunshin as in running to the battlefield is what Tobirama was talking about. Minato did not FTG to the battlefield. He ran, or used "Shunshin".



Why not? Please, enlighten me? Is it because your Lord Minato couldn't or did not?

You high? Why would minato re create the kunai for no reason!... it is obvios that the seal wou ld over lap itself on a small/normal kunai handle....makimg the use of ftg on a normal kunai void !!! Gtfo
 

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You high? Why would minato re create the kunai for no reason!... it is obvios that the seal wou ld over lap itself on a small/normal kunai handle....makimg the use of ftg on a normal kunai void !!! Gtfo
That is an assumption. So why don't you kindly :stfu: and GTFO? :bye:
 

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FTG = FTG

bcoz FTG is instant, Tobirama already used FTG with a clone, and there was no indication that it was ''slower''
ur not readng manga properly

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I clearly explained y Tobirama said that in my prv post ......

If u dnt want to admit that then I have no probulem with that..........

Manga Fact? It is not a manga fact. Your are assuming just like I am. Only except mine is more plausible. U_U
Tobirama clearly said that it is slower than normal one........ur the one that is usng assumptions........!
 

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ur not readng manga properly

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I clearly explained y Tobirama said that in my prv post ......

If u dnt want to admit that then I have no probulem with that..........
NO, Tobirama said it won't ''cut it'' and there could be different reasons for this

bcoz a shadow clone will disappear b4 they could use the FTG swap for example?
 

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ur not readng manga properly

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I clearly explained y Tobirama said that in my prv post ......

If u dnt want to admit that then I have no probulem with that..........
Post the damn VIZ. That image means nothing unless you get the VIZ. Tobirama does not state the clones using Hiraishin is too slow.
 

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1. Obito
2. Kabuto
3. Orochimaru
4. Hashirama
5. Madara
6. Nagato
7. Naruto
8. Tobirama
9. Sasuke / Itachi
10. Itachi / Sasuke

Nope, Minato does not crack my top 10.
 

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Post the damn VIZ. That image means nothing unless you get the VIZ. Tobirama does not state the clones using Hiraishin is too slow.
Dnt use BS logic's Tran's didn't stated that clone's will poof .....He said that clone's won't cut it which means that they can't do it in time...!

NO, Tobirama said it won't ''cut it'' and there could be different reasons for this

bcoz a shadow clone will disappear b4 they could use the FTG swap for example?
So ur sayng that Translation wil change the complete meaning of normal manga Scan..!
 
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Minato has the space time barrier, which Tobirama does not. Tobirama could place a seal on a Kunai or Shuriken and do the same as Minato. Just saying.
This is True!

Minato merely's seals his chakra without the marks on the Kunai's to improve his technique and give him a wider range in battle.

Tobirama uses the exact same techniques. He also has the ability to teleport whatever his chakra touches.

Tobirama also created Edo Tensei, which is effectively a sealing techniques. A techniques in which he was helped by the Uzumaki's, there is no telling how much knowledge he obtained through his Era.

I believe that people consistently try and downgrade Tobirama's FTG, because they believe it reflects on Minato's Abilities/Achievements. Whether i personally think it makes Minato look better. The fact that he is able to perform jutsu, that one of the Legendary Senju brothers uses.
 
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