is minato SM an ASSpull or not

[holtaa]

And i think that picture merely shows two ninjas known for great strength as thresholds that naruto has both passed. Two main things naruto has trained intensely for, the rasengan (4th hokage) and sage jutsu (jiraiya) and also a third that came later on... the mastery of the tailed beast as well as a connection with all of them (rikodu senin) Its simple, all just individual thresholds to prove naruto's growth in strength

Totally quoting myself here... but rikodu senin was probably the wrong example, maybe instead of rikodu senin, its well the enemy, akatsuki and obito. I mean the rasengan, he took it and made it stronger than minato. Sage jutsu, he mastered it faster and better than jiraiya. And the tailed beasts, he has used them and controlled them better than the akatsuki and obito had done. Idk but whatever

 

[Chīkara]

It isn't but I hate the fact that Naruto is just a perfected,
version of his failing dad... Nothing Naruto has is of his own.

- Rasengan = Minato created it, he only perfected it.
- Sage mode = Minato got it .
- Frog summons = Minato got it.
- Kyuubi = Minato got it.
- Kage bunshin = Minato got it.

I mean come on...



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[Narutoga]

IMO no, not really. Wasn't it foreshadowed by Fukasaku??? If I am wrong and it is, please get over it. Besides, he got stomped the moment he showed it so it doesn't really matter.
P.S Hiruzen solos

cmon, if it were another opponent, he woulda stomped, madara as an opponent was better though

 

[The Sach]

Yes it is, unless Kishi explains various things.

 

[Smd]

It isn't but I hate the fact that Naruto is just a perfected,
version of his failing dad... Nothing Naruto has is of his own.

- Rasengan = Minato created it, he only perfected it.
- Sage mode = Minato got it .
- Frog summons = Minato got it.
- Kyuubi = Minato got it.
- Kage bunshin = Minato got it.

I mean come on...



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ok in all seriousness

Minato should have at least been shown once at the Place training SM or something

but he wasnt.

KCM+BM

are the real ass pull imo, because he either trained them while he was dead [ no logically possible]

or he "trained" them moments before dieing which

 

[Narutoga]

It isn't but I hate the fact that Naruto is just a perfected,
version of his failing dad... Nothing Naruto has is of his own.

- Rasengan = Minato created it, he only perfected it.
- Sage mode = Minato got it .
- Frog summons = Minato got it.
- Kyuubi = Minato got it.
- Kage bunshin = Minato got it.

I mean come on...



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minato does not have sexy no jutsu, or BSM, or the combination of element to rasengan, but they still are like photcopies

 

[Narutoga]

no matter how much you fanboys try and legitimize this.

you cant because its an ass pull just like KCM+BM

no power like those should be gained off panel and not shown,

stop being stupid




this is another reason why its an ass pull

the timing he used it

there is nothing like KCM + BM, if you mean BSM, then its not an asspul, or if you are talking about minato, he sealed it in himself right before death, so it ain't asspull

 

[Narutoga]

Yes it is, unless Kishi explains various things.

i doubt if kishi would explain everything, we might just have to accept that way

 

[The Sach]

It isn't but I hate the fact that Naruto is just a perfected,
version of his failing dad... Nothing Naruto has is of his own.

- Rasengan = Minato created it, he only perfected it.
- Sage mode = Minato got it .
- Frog summons = Minato got it.
- Kyuubi = Minato got it.
- Kage bunshin = Minato got it.

I mean come on...



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What about Rasenshuriken?

 

[Chīkara]

minato does not have sexy no jutsu, or BSM, or the combination of element to rasengan, but they still are like photcopies

Well I think he is able to use BSM, you only have to mix
it together which isn't that hard {I think} And i agree with The FRS. he perfected the rasengan.
But man why would kishi make a direct copy of Minato ?
Naruto is the main charachter ffs.

Look at Sasuke

- 1 of the 2 with the EMS.
- Only one who is able to use blaze release.
- Controlled lightning itself.
- Was able to create Chidorigatana.
- Was able to go up to curse mode level 2.
- Created different chidori variants.

I mean Kishi could do this easily with Naruto.






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[WolfHaley]

It's not an asspull, Minato just deemed that his family, village and friends weren't worth saving, hence why he never used Sage mode. It's understandable, not like he's Hokage or anything.

 

[ChrisUzumaki]

The thing everyone seems to forgwt is that minato had imperfect sage mode before he died. He has aa zetsu body right now that maybe helps him draw in natural energy much quicker than normal. It took jiraya several minutes to gather enough to het to an imperfext sage mode and you telling me that minato can do it as fast as naruto. It because the zetsu oro used is enhancing his ability to take in natural energy.

 

[Smd]

there is nothing like KCM + BM, if you mean BSM, then its not an asspul, or if you are talking about minato, he sealed it in himself right before death, so it ain't asspull

alot of you act like you dont know or dont want to know what an ass pull is.

Minato using KCM+BM without training like naruto did = ASS PULL


Minato gaining these powers between the time he died and while he was dead= BS Ass pull


if you all are denying this than its clear your fanboying or trolling.

and dont get mad at me for pointing out obvious.


No explaination from a fanboy can explain how minato gained those powers w/o training them.

ill give yall SM since he actually did go to the place or at least signed the contracts

 

[Meekz89]

ok in all seriousness

Minato should have at least been shown once at the Place training SM or something

but he wasnt.

KCM+BM

are the real ass pull imo, because he either trained them while he was dead [ no logically possible]

or he "trained" them moments before dieing which

You around here calling everyone stupid. For the most part Minato has been dead.... Still is. The only way to see him train is for a filler to do it Kishimoto has little to do with the anime. He had the frog contract, it was hinted in the scan provided earlier. The only thing I don't agree on is him having a perfected version of Sage. He should've had more frog features like Jiraiya.

 

[ChrisUzumaki]

Then madara reningan tech is ass pull, when did he get to train those eyes so intense when he got the reningan when he was about to die. When dis he trajn with them.stuck in a cave he couldn't leave.

 

[LitAquarius]

Here we go, Yes And NO!

 

[Smd]

You around here calling everyone stupid. For the most part Minato has been dead.... Still is. The only way to see him train is for a filler to do it Kishimoto has little to do with the anime. He had the frog contract, it was hinted in the scan provided earlier. The only thing I don't agree on is him having a perfected version of Sage. He should've had more frog features like Jiraiya.

and you butthurt kids cant read

i called that troll stuipd and judging by his respone i was right. not everyone

anyways i already said ill give yall SM which really wasnt properly showned how he gained it

other than in filler like you said


But last i checked NB didnt accept filler as evidence for arugments

 

[Narutoga]

Well I think he is able to use BSM, you only have to mix
it together which isn't that hard {I think} And i agree with The FRS. he perfected the rasengan.
But man why would kishi make a direct copy of Minato ?
Naruto is the main charachter ffs.

Look at Sasuke

- 1 of the 2 with the EMS.
- Only one who is able to use blaze release.
- Controlled lightning itself.
- Was able to create Chidorigatana.
- Was able to go up to curse mode level 2.
- Created different chidori variants.

I mean Kishi could do this easily with Naruto.






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there was nothing kishi could copy from fugaku uchiha( sasuke's father ), but sasuke shares techniques also with 2 other MS/EMS user's, the only difference is the elemental aspect of his assets, and that also differentiate naruto from minato

 

[The Sach]

i doubt if kishi would explain everything, we might just have to accept that way

He need to because he messed up few things, just for sake of fanservice.:|

The thing everyone seems to forgwt is that minato had imperfect sage mode before he died. He has aa zetsu body right now that maybe helps him draw in natural energy much quicker than normal. It took jiraya several minutes to gather enough to het to an imperfext sage mode and you telling me that minato can do it as fast as naruto. It because the zetsu oro used is enhancing his ability to take in natural energy.

I thought about this too, but edo bodies does't have the properties of person using which they are incarnated.

 

[Narutoga]

The thing everyone seems to forgwt is that minato had imperfect sage mode before he died. He has aa zetsu body right now that maybe helps him draw in natural energy much quicker than normal. It took jiraya several minutes to gather enough to het to an imperfext sage mode and you telling me that minato can do it as fast as naruto. It because the zetsu oro used is enhancing his ability to take in natural energy.

oro has not yet been shown using nature energy, don't just assume that because he has zetsu body