[Discussion] Is Luffy Admaral level with GEAR 4TH?!

[giostep]

Its weird how everyone keeps saying "doffy isnt at 100% and luffy will barely beat him" as though luffy is at 100% health. Truth is that luffy is probably is worse condition right now then Doffy. Keep in mind that before luffy got to dressrosa he was fighting on Punk Hazard and Fishman island, and we know that the damage on luffy does accumulate, think back to what ViVi was worried about before the last steroid shot to luffy. Luffy hasnt rested since his fights on Fishman island. Doffy on the other hand probably hasnt had to fight anyone since the two year skip, his first real injury was the injection shot by law, while luffy has been sustaining damage since he got into fishman ark.

With that being said I think everyone should really adjust their scaling taking into consideration that luffy hasn't been at "100%" since fishman ark began. Luffy imho is in worse health than doffy right now, and that will be worsened after he uses G4. Luffy just has the ability to not let his fatigue and pain be very noticeable when fighting.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Its weird how everyone keeps saying "doffy isnt at 100% and luffy will barely beat him" as though luffy is at 100% health. Truth is that luffy is probably is worse condition right now then Doffy. Keep in mind that before luffy got to dressrosa he was fighting on Punk Hazard and Fishman island, and we know that the damage on luffy does accumulate, think back to what ViVi was worried about before the last steroid shot to luffy. Luffy hasnt rested since his fights on Fishman island. Doffy on the other hand probably hasnt had to fight anyone since the two year skip, his first real injury was the injection shot by law, while luffy has been sustaining damage since he got into fishman ark.

With that being said I think everyone should really adjust their scaling taking into consideration that luffy hasn't been at "100%" since fishman ark began. Luffy imho is in worse health than doffy right now, and that will be worsened after he uses G4. Luffy just has the ability to not let his fatigue and pain be very noticeable when fighting.

Luffy ate meat on his way to Dressrosa.

Doflamingo was having his internal organs ripped to shreds. How the f*ck is Luffy in a better condition?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Its weird how everyone keeps saying "doffy isnt at 100% and luffy will barely beat him" as though luffy is at 100% health. Truth is that luffy is probably is worse condition right now then Doffy. Keep in mind that before luffy got to dressrosa he was fighting on Punk Hazard and Fishman island, and we know that the damage on luffy does accumulate, think back to what ViVi was worried about before the last steroid shot to luffy. Luffy hasnt rested since his fights on Fishman island. Doffy on the other hand probably hasnt had to fight anyone since the two year skip, his first real injury was the injection shot by law, while luffy has been sustaining damage since he got into fishman ark.

With that being said I think everyone should really adjust their scaling taking into consideration that luffy hasn't been at "100%" since fishman ark began. Luffy imho is in worse health than doffy right now, and that will be worsened after he uses G4. Luffy just has the ability to not let his fatigue and pain be very noticeable when fighting.

Sanji cooked a meal tht healed alll of their injuries prior to dressrosa Doffy neg differ smoker

But got iced by akoiji surived tht no prob

But got his internal orgrans ripped to shreads and also has bird cage up so cannot use full power if u think Doffy is not in a more worse condition then luffy u r delusional

Current luffy is just weak compared to a full powered doffy or even current doffy which is why he needed a huge insane power up to just combat an injured doffy...

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Sanji cooked a meal tht healed alll of their injuries prior to dressrosa Doffy neg differ smoker

But got iced by akoiji surived tht no prob

But got his internal orgrans ripped to shreads and also has bird cage up so cannot use full power if u think Doffy is not in a more worse condition then luffy u r delusional

Current luffy is just weak compared to a full powered doffy or even current doffy which is why he needed a huge insane power up to just combat an injured doffy...

No evidence that Birdcage is restricting Doffy in any way.

 

[saw2097]

Luffy ate meat on his way to Dressrosa.

Doflamingo was having his internal organs ripped to shreds. How the f*ck is Luffy in a better condition?

Maybe not worse but Luffy is in pretty rough shape as well.

Doflamingo even mocked Luffy when he said he would have to kill him first, Doflamingo joked that he was half way there.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Maybe not worse but Luffy is in pretty rough shape as well.

Doflamingo even mocked Luffy when he said he would have to kill him first, Doflamingo joked that he was half way there.

Or he just made snide comments as per usual

 

[OG sama]

Maybe not worse but Luffy is in pretty rough shape as well.

Doflamingo even mocked Luffy when he said he would have to kill him first, Doflamingo joked that he was half way there.

Interesting, Luffy said if you want to put Law in the grave, it would be after his dead body.

Doffy replies, "It seems I am half way there." Then Luffy says he(Doffy) is pretty injured himself.

Maybe this is implying that Luffy is 50% weakened, which means Doffy may also be 50%.

Oda may not have done a good job, but maybe he's implying that they are both equally injured. Which means Luffy at full health with G4 might be at least equal to Mingo both at full health.

Now people are probably going to bash this post because Doffy got his insides damaged. But honestly he doesn't seem weakened to a severe extent which means putting him at 50% isn't real far fetched. Any lower would be ridiculous because he's moving almost the same as he does at full health and putting him more than 50 would almost be implying that he didn't get hurt at all. This is all my opinion of course.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Interesting, Luffy said if you want to put Law in the grave, it would be after his dead body.

Doffy replies, "It seems I am half way there." Then Luffy says he(Doffy) is pretty injured himself.

Maybe this is implying that Luffy is 50% weakened, which means Doffy may also be 50%.

Oda may not have done a good job, but maybe he's implying that they are both equally injured. Which means Luffy at full health with G4 might be at least equal to Mingo both at full health.

I'd expect somebody internally bleeding with destroyed internal organs to be more weakened than a guy with a few knocks and bruises

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'd expect somebody internally bleeding with destroyed internal organs to be more weakened than a guy with a few knocks and bruises

Dude, but he had to travel all the way to the palace on the back of a bull and then a horse. You know how tired he must be? Gosh

 

[Punk Hazard]

Interesting, Luffy said if you want to put Law in the grave, it would be after his dead body.

Doffy replies, "It seems I am half way there." Then Luffy says he(Doffy) is pretty injured himself.

Maybe this is implying that Luffy is 50% weakened, which means Doffy may also be 50%.

Oda may not have done a good job, but maybe he's implying that they are both equally injured. Which means Luffy at full health with G4 might be at least equal to Mingo both at full health.

Now people are probably going to bash this post because Doffy got his insides damaged. But honestly he doesn't seem weakened to a severe extent which means putting him at 50% isn't real far fetched. Any lower would be ridiculous because he's moving almost the same as he does at full health and putting him more than 50 would almost be implying that he didn't get hurt at all. This is all my opinion of course.

Someone with a strength level of 100 losing 50% of their power is still stronger than someone with a strength level of 50 losing 50%. Just because Luffy and Doffy both lost 50% of their strength, doesn't mean they're the same strength at 100%.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Dude, but he had to travel all the way to the palace on the back of a bull and then a horse. You know how tired he must be? Gosh

I know right, especially considering the fact Law did a lot of the dirty work for him and Luffy has received an incredible five blows from Doflamingo (one to the face, cut back, cut stomach, two more regular hits).

He's on the verge of death

 

[Bogard]

Interesting, Luffy said if you want to put Law in the grave, it would be after his dead body.

Doffy replies, "It seems I am half way there." Then Luffy says he(Doffy) is pretty injured himself.

Maybe this is implying that Luffy is 50% weakened, which means Doffy may also be 50%.

Oda may not have done a good job, but maybe he's implying that they are both equally injured. Which means Luffy at full health with G4 might be at least equal to Mingo both at full health.

Now people are probably going to bash this post because Doffy got his insides damaged. But honestly he doesn't seem weakened to a severe extent which means putting him at 50% isn't real far fetched. Any lower would be ridiculous because he's moving almost the same as he does at full health and putting him more than 50 would almost be implying that he didn't get hurt at all. This is all my opinion of course.

Doffy said he was half way there as a way to say it won't take long for him to finish Luffy and take care of Law

Dude, but he had to travel all the way to the palace on the back of a bull and then a horse. You know how tired he must be? Gosh

Dead lmao

 

[OG sama]

I'd expect somebody internally bleeding with destroyed internal organs to be more weakened than a guy with a few knocks and bruises

Honestly he isn't really moving as if he's internally damaged. He seems to be back to his usual agile self, and couple that with the fact that he took no damage whatsoever from G2 Luffy even though last chapter Luffy was punching and kicking him with base + Haki and it was clearly shown as effective leads me to believe Oda simply doesn't care about being consistent with damage like we are. Odas logic would probably be its not just Bellamy but all the other battles + Bellamy that did Luffy in this much.

 

[OG sama]

Someone with a strength level of 100 losing 50% of their power is still stronger than someone with a strength level of 50 losing 50%. Just because Luffy and Doffy both lost 50% of their strength, doesn't mean they're the same strength at 100%.

Doffy said he was half way there as a way to say it won't take long for him to finish Luffy and take care of Law

Dead lmao

Well this may have just destroyed my reasoning, I just got done reading a thread about both Doffy and Luffy being equally injured on NF and I must say these two post would probably close the 10 useless pages that thread had.

 

[saw2097]

Interesting, Luffy said if you want to put Law in the grave, it would be after his dead body.

Doffy replies, "It seems I am half way there." Then Luffy says he(Doffy) is pretty injured himself.

Maybe this is implying that Luffy is 50% weakened, which means Doffy may also be 50%.

Oda may not have done a good job, but maybe he's implying that they are both equally injured. Which means Luffy at full health with G4 might be at least equal to Mingo both at full health.

Now people are probably going to bash this post because Doffy got his insides damaged. But honestly he doesn't seem weakened to a severe extent which means putting him at 50% isn't real far fetched. Any lower would be ridiculous because he's moving almost the same as he does at full health and putting him more than 50 would almost be implying that he didn't get hurt at all. This is all my opinion of course.

I believe that was the author's intention, it simply wasn't done well.

I'd expect somebody internally bleeding with destroyed internal organs to be more weakened than a guy with a few knocks and bruises

Normally yes, but that does seem to be the author's goal with Doflamingo and Luffy's lines where they called each other.

Doflamingo wouldn't have been so cocky over the issue if Luffy was in that much better shape.

I think its mostly so that this point forward neither of them having any excuses for how the fight goes, as the primary part of the battle will start next chapter from the looks of things.