[Discussion] Is Luffy Admaral level with GEAR 4TH?!

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No. Rayleigh said he would be one of the strongest in the New World and the strongest of the Worst Generation (not counting Blackbeard)
He said you want that to happen again? (in the background it was fight between him and Kizaru, when Kizaru low diff him) It means that after the training, Luffy will be strong enough to hold his own against Admiral, or even beat one.
 

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He said you want that to happen again? (in the background it was fight between him and Kizaru, when Kizaru low diff him) It means that after the training, Luffy will be strong enough to hold his own against Admiral, or even beat one.
You're taking what he said out of context. He was referring to the fact that, without Haki and training, Luffy wouldn't be able to do anything, and he'd just get low-diffed and fail all the time. The two years training was the first step in insuring that doesn't happen again.

At the time Rayleigh said that, he didn't believe Luffy could master the basics of Haki. There's no way he thought he could defeat an Admiral once it was over.
 

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No way man. G4's being used to beat a handicapped, nowhere near 100% doflamingo, who himself is not admiral level. Luffy would get manhandled by the admirals still.
 

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You're taking what he said out of context. He was referring to the fact that, without Haki and training, Luffy wouldn't be able to do anything, and he'd just get low-diffed and fail all the time. The two years training was the first step in insuring that doesn't happen again.

At the time Rayleigh said that, he didn't believe Luffy could master the basics of Haki. There's no way he thought he could defeat an Admiral once it was over.
That's not true. Because Law and Kid were there around Luffy's strenght pre TS and both of them were able to survive in New World, even thought they didn't had haki when they entered.

Luffy would survive as well if his scenario is same as Law's or Kid's, but he is Dragon's son and huge threat to WG.
 

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That's not true. Because Law and Kid were there around Luffy's strenght pre TS and both of them were able to survive in New World, even thought they didn't had haki when they entered.

Luffy would survive as well if his scenario is same as Law's or Kid's, but he is Dragon's son and huge threat to WG.
You dont know they didn't have Haki.

It doesn't matter. Rayleigh didn't believe Luffy could master the basics of Haki in two years. Why would he possibly believe he could take on seasoned Admirals?
 

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You dont know they didn't have Haki.

It doesn't matter. Rayleigh didn't believe Luffy could master the basics of Haki in two years. Why would he possibly believe he could take on seasoned Admirals?
Kay, even some weaker characters (Appo, Hawkins) survived in New World without haki. What's the chance that all of them had haki before NW?

I don't remember him saying that, where was that?

Haki is also not everything. So look at that from this side, Silvers thought that Luffy will be able to beat Admiral even without haki, lmao. Plus what made it even more impressive is that Luffy reached level Silvers wanted in just year and a half.
 

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Kay, even some weaker characters (Appo, Hawkins) survived in New World without haki. What's the chance that all of them had haki before NW?

I don't remember him saying that, where was that?

Haki is also not everything. So look at that from this side, Silvers thought that Luffy will be able to beat Admiral even without haki, lmao. Plus what made it even more impressive is that Luffy reached level Silvers wanted in just year and a half.
Do you even hear yourself?
 

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Law is Fleet admiral level. If he had used the same tactic on Akainu, he would have killed him.
Also the luffy that comes out of this battle will be admiral level.
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And people sayin luffy wont be able to harm an admiral in gear 4, can go eat admiral dung.
 
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Law is Fleet admiral level. If he had used the same tactic on Akainu, he would have killed him.
Also the luffy that comes out of this battle will be admiral level.
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And people sayin luffy wont be able to harm an admiral in gear 4, can go eat admiral dung.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[video=youtube;fyEThSM4JnI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyEThSM4JnI[/video]


Can't tell if serious or...
 

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I really hated how trebol got involved just wanted a 1 on 1 fight between luffy and mingo. Even though Mingo is hurt he's not too far from healthy. his devil fruit power is keeping his health in tact. Anyway to the question. Not quite at most low admiral at very least high vice admiral
 

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I would have loved to see G4 against a healthy Doffy but Oda knows everyone has been clamoring to see G4 since we saw G3 So Am Not sure we'll see the full power of the G4 now. I will be extremely happy if Luffy defeats Doffy low df with the G4, it'll show the potential it has
 

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Not yet but he is getting there, Doflamingo is basically an insect compared to the admirals and the Yonko, so Luffy still has a ways to go.

But he is the strongest of the Worst Generation except for Blackbeard.
 
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