Is Kisame a better water style user than the 2nd Hokage?

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HA!
The fight would be endless!

1. Kisame spits out some water jutsu.
2. 2nd Hokage mirrors it right back at him.
3. Kisame absorbs the attack.

HA! The fight would go on & on & on!
If thats the case, Kisame would win because he is neither losing chakra (attack's chakra absorption) nor will he gain chakra (launching water tech. against 2nd Hokage) while 2nd Hokage's chakra will slowly diminish over time.

BUT!

The thing is, 2nd Hokage is smart as well. He would maybe utilize his Space Time Jutsu and to get close enough to remove the Samehada or maybe even go for the kill from the back?

Thoughts?

Yeah, Edo Tensei
 

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Yeah, Edo Tensei

iWas just thinking but iThink Tobirama never really did mastered the Impure Resurrection. The reason why iSay this is because, it took Oro & then Kabuto to complete this jutsu perfectly hence iWas thinking maybe his Edo Tensei was like a prototype form and therefore quite weak? But that's just my opinion.

So my point! Let's just say his Edo Tensei is all that, just like Kabuto's alright?
Who would he summon to help him beat Kisame iWonder?
 

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may or may not the info on 2nd is very short but i think hi is not equal to 2nd
 

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iWas just thinking but iThink Tobirama never really did mastered the Impure Resurrection. The reason why iSay this is because, it took Oro & then Kabuto to complete this jutsu perfectly hence iWas thinking maybe his Edo Tensei was like a prototype form and therefore quite weak? But that's just my opinion.

So my point! Let's just say his Edo Tensei is all that, just like Kabuto's alright?
Who would he summon to help him beat Kisame iWonder?

Hmm, I think he was able to do it, but he could probably only summon like, one person, Kinda how rasengan wasnt a mastered tech, but it still a powerful jutsu
 

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Hmm, I think he was able to do it, but he could probably only summon like, one person, Kinda how rasengan wasnt a mastered tech, but it still a powerful jutsu

Hmmm..
iAgree on him being limited to one summon but would it really make a critical difference against Kisame? O_O
 

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who would he summon? probably someone powerful from his time or before that had died.
 

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Hmmm..
iAgree on him being limited to one summon but would it really make a critical difference against Kisame? O_O

yea, cuz Im sure Kisame would have a hard time with him, add another powerful person who wont die, i dont think kisame can handle it
 

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yea, cuz Im sure Kisame would have a hard time with him, add another powerful person who wont die, i dont think kisame can handle it

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Sounds plausible.

KISAME GETS PAWNED!
 

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He only created impure world ressurrection, orochimaru completed it and mastered it. He couldnt do the things orochimaru did with the technique. He never got any dna, he never learned how to summon the iwr because he banned the technique too early.

so creating powerful techs isn't enough for you, you have to master it as well to be considered strong was that the point you were making?
 

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2nd hokage can make water come out of thin air,most water users need a water source or have to produce it from the water in their bodies.Kisame is a shark but it is said that the 2nd wa the best water user ever
 

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Tobirama can make water out of air.
Kisame can make an ocean.

That's even right there.
 

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Kisame is better because he has way more chakra than the 2nd hokage
therefore he can create a dome of water when fused with samehada :izuna:
so yes xd
 

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so creating powerful techs isn't enough for you, you have to master it as well to be considered strong was that the point you were making?

thats not it, i mean he couldnt use the tech like orochimaru did so him using iwr in a fight is out of the question.
 

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Well the 2nd was said to be the greatest water style user.
 

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He only created impure world ressurrection, orochimaru completed it and mastered it. He couldnt do the things orochimaru did with the technique. He never got any dna, he never learned how to summon the iwr because he banned the technique too early.

Urm wrong..... the 2nd created and used edo tensei....... Muu, Madara etc all knew about him using it and bringing back dead people

Orochimaru invented the futa tags that took complete control of the edo tensei...

Meaning the 2nd only revived people he knew to fight for him, dead senju clan members maybe?

They would be fighting for themselves...... he couldnt revive anyone who wouldnt fight for him..
 

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Well, I think it's a draw. Because:

We have in bluuuue corner 32 year old, 195 cm and 83.1 kg tall FISH MONSTER KISAME HOSHIGAKI!!! The water element should be for him more naturaly as for the 2nd. He might new the water from the perspectives, which 2nd can't.

But in the rrrrred corneerrr we have a legend,182.3 cm tall and with 70,5 kg, , legendary 2nd Hokage of Konoha TOBIRAMA SENJU!! , which is most famous for his water element techniques. He's probably older than Kisame and also have been studying the art of water element more then Kisame did. He also is famous for his water techniques.
 

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I don't know enough about Tobirama Senju's water style jutsus to make the comparison. All we do know is what made him so renouned was the fact that he could use techniques where there was no water that almost any other ninja would require large body of water to use. A problem that we have seen Kisame doesn't have a problem with because he can great great lakes out of nothing

So until I know what jutsus Tobirama had in his arsenal, I cannot say
 
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