Is Kisame a better water style user than the 2nd Hokage?

[shiswi akola madara]

It's close because of Kisame's massive water jutsus such as the ocean tech and the dome tech. On top of that 1000 shark summon. Manipulating moisture in the air to water is impressive though.
Tobirama probably has stronger techs though.

you're all just hyping 2nd cause he was once an hokage.

 

[Nikes]

you're all just hyping 2nd cause he was once an hokage.

Naw, he could take the moisture from the air and make a formidable water tech. That's impressive.

 

[vinsence]

We don't have enough information to make that decision.

Double down on this.

For all we know 2nd can't even make a water style dragon. We have no idea besides mist. With what he can do he is amazing but it’s like comparing a jet to a helicopter it all depends on what you are doing to say what is better. :shrug:

 

[jm2oo9]

you're all just hyping 2nd cause he was once an hokage.

OMG...1 the second was a senju so........kisame does have more chakra then him but im pretty sure since the senju clan had the sage body he could keep up if not kill kisame

 

[aniwth0z]

We don't have enough information to make that decision.

agree we ned more info

 

[LolaxXx]

Well second was known to be able to huge and powerful water techniques out of thin air. Kisame needs to create a water source 1st. Id say 2nd hokage is the best water user.

 

[Coyote]

Kisame was suppose to be on par with the 2nd Hokage in water style. however, the 2nd could beat Kisame due to him having space/time and creating Summoning: Impure World Resurrection technique

 

[Nikes]

Well second was known to be able to huge and powerful water techniques out of thin air. Kisame needs to create a water source 1st. Id say 2nd hokage is the best water user.

But when he does create a water source it's huge..

 

[Uchiha Paulsama]

Double down on this.

For all we know 2nd can't even make a water style dragon. We have no idea besides mist. With what he can do he is amazing but it’s like comparing a jet to a helicopter it all depends on what you are doing to say what is better. :shrug:

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[jm2oo9]

Double down on this.

For all we know 2nd can't even make a water style dragon. We have no idea besides mist. With what he can do he is amazing but it’s like comparing a jet to a helicopter it all depends on what you are doing to say what is better. :shrug:

hahahaaha....im done with this post a man who became a kage couldn't do a (A or B rank) justu come on now..he invented his own justu's including the Edo Tensei...think man...tooo funny

 

[Mr.Beastie]

Kisame was suppose to be on par with the 2nd Hokage in water style. however, the 2nd could beat Kisame due to him having space/time and creating Summoning: Impure World Resurrection technique

He only created impure world ressurrection, orochimaru completed it and mastered it. He couldnt do the things orochimaru did with the technique. He never got any dna, he never learned how to summon the iwr because he banned the technique too early.

 

[The Thinker]

Naw, he could take the moisture from the air and make a formidable water tech. That's impressive.

Thank U!

 

[jm2oo9]

He only created impure world ressurrection, orochimaru completed it and mastered it. He couldnt do the things orochimaru did with the technique. He never got any dna, he never learned how to summon the iwr because he banned the technique too early.

orochimaru didnt complete it at all in fact when he used it the first and second hokage was weaker...kabuto completed and mastered it...

 

[Mr.Beastie]

orochimaru didnt complete it at all in fact when he used it the first and second hokage was weaker...kabuto completed and mastered it...

kabuto said it himself bruh- Ch.520 pg.13

 

[Uchiha Dan]

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We have Kisame.

-Assuming that in this fight, he wields the Samehada, he has improved ability to absorb chakra at great levels.

*Some strong water techs by Kisame.
-Water Release: A Thousand Feeding Sharks
(Mostly comprised of water right?)

-Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave
(Engulfs the area with a colossal orb of water trapping his opponents within)

-Water Release: Great Shark Bullet Tech.
(This attack gets stronger & larger by absorbing the opponents chakra)



VERSUS

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And now we have Tobirama, 2nd Hokage

-He could perform crazy water stunts in areas with very little water around, making him The greatest known water style user in the Narutoverse!

-The things he could do with little water, imagine the possibilities if he got caught in Kisame's Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave?
Think about it. =]

-He could perform complex water style techs with one hand?! FTW!

-Lastly, he possesses the Sword of the Thunder God. A blade with ELECTRICAL abilities. Need iSay more?


My Conclusion:
2nd Hokage pawns Kisame big time in terms of water style jutsus and techs.
None can compare with the things he could do.

In a fight? IMO, 2nd Hokage is no joke and Kisame is still not in the same league as 2nd Hokage yet though.

What do you think? :izuna:

 

[LolaxXx]

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We have Kisame.

-Assuming that in this fight, he wields the Samehada, he has improved ability to absorb chakra at great levels.

*Some strong water techs by Kisame.
-Water Release: A Thousand Feeding Sharks
(Mostly comprised of water right?)

-Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave
(Engulfs the area with a colossal orb of water trapping his opponents within)

-Water Release: Great Shark Bullet Tech.
(This attack gets stronger & larger by absorbing the opponents chakra)



VERSUS

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And now we have Tobirama, 2nd Hokage

-He could perform crazy water stunts in areas with very little water around, making him The greatest known water style user in the Narutoverse!

-The things he could do with little water, imagine the possibilities if he got caught in Kisame's Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave?
Think about it. =]

-He could perform complex water style techs with one hand?! FTW!

-Lastly, he possesses the Sword of the Thunder God. A blade with ELECTRICAL abilities. Need iSay more?


My Conclusion:
2nd Hokage pawns Kisame big time in terms of water style jutsus and techs.
None can compare with the things he could do.

In a fight? IMO, 2nd Hokage is no joke and Kisame is still not in the same league as 2nd Hokage yet though.

What do you think? :izuna:

Yea, If Kisame gives him water by creating a lake, it'll just make it easier for the 2nd

 

[Mr.Beastie]

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We have Kisame.

-Assuming that in this fight, he wields the Samehada, he has improved ability to absorb chakra at great levels.

*Some strong water techs by Kisame.
-Water Release: A Thousand Feeding Sharks
(Mostly comprised of water right?)

-Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave
(Engulfs the area with a colossal orb of water trapping his opponents within)

-Water Release: Great Shark Bullet Tech.
(This attack gets stronger & larger by absorbing the opponents chakra)



VERSUS

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And now we have Tobirama, 2nd Hokage

-He could perform crazy water stunts in areas with very little water around, making him The greatest known water style user in the Narutoverse!

-The things he could do with little water, imagine the possibilities if he got caught in Kisame's Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave?
Think about it. =]

-He could perform complex water style techs with one hand?! FTW!

-Lastly, he possesses the Sword of the Thunder God. A blade with ELECTRICAL abilities. Need iSay more?


My Conclusion:
2nd Hokage pawns Kisame big time in terms of water style jutsus and techs.
None can compare with the things he could do.

In a fight? IMO, 2nd Hokage is no joke and Kisame is still not in the same league as 2nd Hokage yet though.

What do you think? :izuna:

so you are saying he could use kisame's water to his advantage when kisame's water is made from his chakra which he controls. Also if the Second did use water techs kisame could absorb the water techs using sameheda.
Also sameheda can absorb lightning like he did with bee's sword so the sword of the thunder god wont be of much help.
Ch.470 pg.16

 

[LolaxXx]

so you are saying he could use kisame's water to his advantage when kisame's water is made from his chakra which he controls. Also if the Second did use water techs kisame could absorb the water techs using sameheda.
Also sameheda can absorb lightning like he did with bee's sword so the sword of the thunder god wont be of much help.
Ch.470 pg.16

well dont forget, 2nd could also use genjutsu and edo tensei

 

[Uchiha Dan]

so you are saying he could use kisame's water to his advantage when kisame's water is made from his chakra which he controls. Also if the Second did use water techs kisame could absorb the water techs using sameheda.
Also sameheda can absorb lightning like he did with bee's sword so the sword of the thunder god wont be of much help.
Ch.470 pg.16

HA!
The fight would be endless!

1. Kisame spits out some water jutsu.
2. 2nd Hokage mirrors it right back at him.
3. Kisame absorbs the attack.

HA! The fight would go on & on & on!
If thats the case, Kisame would win because he is neither losing chakra (attack's chakra absorption) nor will he gain chakra (launching water tech. against 2nd Hokage) while 2nd Hokage's chakra will slowly diminish over time.

BUT!

The thing is, 2nd Hokage is smart as well. He would maybe utilize his Space Time Jutsu and to get close enough to remove the Samehada or maybe even go for the kill from the back?

Thoughts?

 

[Uchiha Dan]

well dont forget, 2nd could also use genjutsu and edo tensei

GENJUTSU!!

Tobirama had Bringer-of-Darkness Technique in his arsenal as well!
COOL STUFF!

This technique exerts an hallucinatory effect upon the eyesight, effectively blinding the opponent. No matter how skilled an opponent may be, they are forced to wait helpless in this world of darkness, as this technique allows the user to attack unseen.