Is Kakashi stronger than Jiraya

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I don't think Kakashi is overall stronger because he doesn't have a sage mode or arsenal of techniques like jiraiya but with Kamui he can definitely defeat him.
arsenal of techniques

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Yes 1000 jutsus of 4 elements nature isn't a big arsenal.
 

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It is only close now with Kakashi's new Sharingan powers :) but Jiraiya was very smart and Kakashi can't use his Sharingan powers so much because of his low chakra capacity so I think Jiraiya would still own :)
 

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Im voting Jiraiya> Kakashi

I don't think he would be able to just KamuI Jiraiya.

Also, Jiraiya has ma and pa.,Which are basically his 2nd and 3rd set of,eyes.
 

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Jman is stronger in base..... With sage mode it's to much
Jman base> kakashi
Jman sage mode>>>kakashi

Kuami>>>>majority of narutoverse except a few..

Yes kakashi can kuami him but for just this reason would u put him > everybody cuz tech he can kuami majority of narutoverse with no problem...
 

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Also all of the Sannin > kakashi

Oro without hands> kakashi
Oro with hands>>kakashi
Oro edo tensi and hands>>>kakashi
Oro perfect form>>>>kakashi
Oro hydra>>>>kakashi

Jman base> kakashi
Jman sage mode >> kakashi

Tsunade>kakashi
Tsuande unsealed>>>kakashi
 

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even though jiraiya has no counter to kamui but he can evade kamui..i think in sage mode he can defeat kakashi quite easily...even though kamui is a problem..but at the same time using that technique can take a lot of chakra....
 

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jiraya is way stronger because of sage mode
 

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Kakashi if he avoids the frogs genjutsu if he gets caught in it it's over
 

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Also all of the Sannin > kakashi

Oro without hands> kakashi
Oro with hands>>kakashi
Oro edo tensi and hands>>>kakashi
Oro perfect form>>>>kakashi
Oro hydra>>>>kakashi

Jman base> kakashi
Jman sage mode >> kakashi

Tsunade>kakashi
Tsuande unsealed>>>kakashi

I feel Kakashi can take Tsunade...
 

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arsenal of techniques

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arsenal of techniques

Yes 1000 jutsus of 4 elements nature isn't a big arsenal.

Kakashi is known to COPY 1000 jutsu...not master them or even memorise them....and besides he doesn't have 4 elements...his elemental affinities are earth, water and lightning and his water affinity isn't so predominant compared to the other two....
 

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kamui? yes it is formidable, but kakashi needs to target the charcter and get him before kamui can work. when kakashi tried using it against deidra, he wasn't very successful cos deidra wouldnt stay still. the instances we have seen kakashi perform a successful kamui have been on targets that were still, or travelling in a straight motion albeit fast i.e sasukes' susanoo arrow( was traveling in a straight line headed for kakashi, pains' missile- also relatively straight part, hachibi was still. so jiraiya isnt gona stay still and wait for kakashi to kamui his ass, so if u saying kakashi would win based on kamui, u wrong . so dont think kakashi is stronger than the j-man,
 

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CAN kakashi beat jman? yea

if the fight 10 times, i think jman will win 6 or 7 times

sure jiraiya doesnt have a counter for kamui, but kakashi doesnt have a counter for frog song or jman's giant frog summonings, not to mention sage mode will boost jman's abilities so jman would be stronger & faster
 

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i think Jiraiya takes this mid diff :)
 

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Remember that kakashi is copying ninja he can use kumai temporarily after the war he will not be able to use it and incase if he learns it he can use it few time and jiraiya has the power of toad which can summon him back as when pain was attacking the village a toad summoned naruto in leaf village
 

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Also all of the Sannin > kakashi

Oro without hands> kakashi
Oro with hands>>kakashi
Oro edo tensi and hands>>>kakashi
Oro perfect form>>>>kakashi
Oro hydra>>>>kakashi

Jman base> kakashi
Jman sage mode >> kakashi

Tsunade>kakashi
Tsuande unsealed>>>kakashi

dude you are totally wrong....kakashi can easily defeat tsundade at his current level....kakashi is one of the fastest ninjas in BASE mode...he has excellent chakra control, his kamui is way too dangerous...he can obviously defeat oro without hands.....but with hands i don't think it's possible...and he can equal base SM jiraiya...if jiraiya isn't able to evade kamui then it can be really troublesome...however if jiraiya strikes first then here's a method...joraiya will summon the oeso****us of the toad to entrap kakashi...kakashi cannot escape that cause he cannot phase himself through objects like obito...at least not yet...
 

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I'm going to go with Jiraiya on this one. It's sad everyone's stating Kamui is the reason he'd win.

I remember in Part 1 an Itachi informing Kisame that the two of them didn't want to face Jiraiya when they were trying to capture Naruto.

And Itachi > > > > Kakashi. Kamui is awesome and all, but one technique can't really be the reason someone wins a fight of this caliber.
 

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dude you are totally wrong....kakashi can easily defeat tsundade at his current level....kakashi is one of the fastest ninjas in BASE mode...he has excellent chakra control, his kamui is way too dangerous...he can obviously defeat oro without hands.....but with hands i don't think it's possible...and he can equal base SM jiraiya...if jiraiya isn't able to evade kamui then it can be really troublesome...however if jiraiya strikes first then here's a method...joraiya will summon the oeso****us of the toad to entrap kakashi...kakashi cannot escape that cause he cannot phase himself through objects like obito...at least not yet...

Ppl underate tsuande if she was so weak compared to kakashi they never would've looked for her in first place to become hokage

While jman doesn't have a counter for kamui kakashi doesn't have counter for any of jman techs,summons etc


Oro beats him with or without hands u seen how he faught with the 4 tails and tht was with a sick body
Oro with or without hands can still body shedding witch counters kamui....
Also u tend to forget what oro has up his arsenal without hands
His perfect form would crush kakashi if kakashi kamui's even apart of it the poisen with paralyze him and Ed done
I'm not gonna even get on the hydra

So yeah orochimaru stomps him wether with or without hands...
Jman beats him sage mode because in sage mode ur suppose to be able to feel when a jutsu is about to happen and ur reflexes r insane
Tsuande unsealed I feel beats kakashi... U may feel otherwise respect ur opinion but yeah thts what I feel
 
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