Is Kakashi now stronger than Itachi?

[shogun973]

You say that, but the matter and hand is whether or not Itachi can counter Kamui. He cannot. Where did he keep the eye? If he had to take it out from somewhere, it'd be slower than Kamui. And if Kakashi has knowledge, he'd just Kamui the crow. Also, Itachi cannot just force Kakashi to kill himself with KA, because Kakashi will know he is in a genjutsu.

amateretsu is faster than kamui

 

[lionel654]

Want your thoughts guys. This is IF they both have knowledge on eachother. Kakashi has Kamui, and we've seen the speed that it warps people. Itachi doesn't have the speed to dodge it. Kakashi is also able to spam it quite a few times. Itachi has Tsukuyomi but that won't work if they both have knowledge on eachother. Amaterasu is his only other oneshot in this match, since Kakashi is fast enough to dodge Totsuka. Amaterasu didn't kill the Samurai and Karin wasn't badly hurt by it. It will not end Kakashi immediately but Kamui will end Itachi straight away. Kakashi also has more stamina than Itachi; Itachi got a 2.5 in the databooks whereas Kakashi got a 3, and we all know Kakashi's stamina has gone up since then. I think Kakashi would win this.

Kamui GG is real. It's canon now. Accept it. Believe it.

sorry mate but if your saying itachi slow then you are greatly mistaking... by your analogy you based kakashi kamui speed on when he wrap naruto. now didn't km naruto face itachi and itachi handle ( i go as far as had an edge on him?) during the fight.
if we are using your logic again itachi can beat anyone by begining the fight by using izanami ( catch my drift)

 

[blackstar9]

Kakashi has improved. Itachi has not. Itachi cannot counter Kamui. You did not read the OP.



True.



He kept track of him. You can see in the chapter.

I read the op. I repeat t kakashi had knowledge of itachi tsukiyomi when kisame and itach arrived in the leaf. you saying he improved does not change that fact

 

[ShippudenRules]

Not even close. Kakashi isn't even in the top 20. He can't beat Itachi and there's a lot of characters that would beat him. Just becuase he can use KAMUI 3 times doesn't mean he wins against top tier shinobis.

List of char. that are stronger (excluding SO6P and sons)

-Madara
-Tobi
-Kabuto
-Naruto
-Sasuke
-Hashirama
-Tobirama
-Minato
-Hiruzen
-Nagato
-Itachi
-3rd Raikage
-Muu
-2nd Mizukage
-Onoki
-Tsunade
-Jiraiya
-Orochimaru
-Killer Bee
-Gaara (maybe)
-Hanzo
-Danzo
-Sasori (maybe)
-Kakuzu (maybe)
-Kisame (maybe)
-4th Raikage (maybe)
-Mei (maybe)
-Lady Chio (maybe)
-Gay (maybe)

Kamui isn't an automatic win and if people say that Itachi doesn't have the speed required to dodge it, then most of these top tier char. can't because Itachi is one of the fastest ninjas of the serie.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

amateretsu is faster than kamui

It doesn't kill people straight away. If you get hit with Kamui, the match is over for you immediately. Please read carefully.

sorry mate but if your saying itachi slow then you are greatly mistaking... by your analogy you based kakashi kamui speed on when he wrap naruto. now didn't km naruto face itachi and itachi handle ( i go as far as had an edge on him?) during the fight.
if we are using your logic again itachi can beat anyone by begining the fight by using izanami ( catch my drift)

Itachi is not faster than Kamui. Izanami requires shared physical sensation; he has to physically hit Kakashi. Not working.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Not even close. Kakashi isn't even in the top 20. He can't beat Itachi and there's a lot of characters that would beat him. Just becuase he can use KAMUI 3 times doesn't mean he wins against top tier shinobis.

List of char. that are stronger (excluding SO6P and sons)

-Madara
-Tobi
-Kabuto
-Hashirama
-Tobirama
-Minato
-Hiruzen
-Nagato
-Itachi
-3rd Raikage
-Muu
-2nd Mizukage
-Onoki
-Tsunade
-Jiraiya
-Orochimaru
-Killer Bee
-Gaara (maybe)
-Hanzo
-Danzo
-Sasori (maybe)
-Kakuzu (maybe)
-Kisame (maybe)
-4th Raikage (maybe)
-Mei (maybe)
-Lady Chio (maybe)
-Gay (maybe)

70% of this list is total failure.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Kamui isn't an automatic win and if people say that Itachi doesn't have the speed required to dodge it, then most of these top tier char. can't because Itachi is one of the fastest ninjas of the serie.

Kamui is a one shot kill. He'll snipe your head. Itachi doesn't have the speed to dodge it, and most top tier characters have no way to counter it. Kamui is uncounterable in 95% of situations. What part of that can't you understand?

 

[Blaze Release]

30 meters. VOTE. full knowledge. Bloodlusted.



Kakashi only needs to use Kamui twice. ONe to get rid of Susanoo (if Itachi can put it up that quick), and one to get rid of Itachi.

So this is a kamui spam, but itachi has full knowledge? Person who said every technique has a weakness as full knowledge even before the fight. Fair enough. What about location.

Btw who mentioned anything about susano or are you debating both sides

 

[blackstar9]

Of course Susanoo can be kamui'd. Gedo Mazo was about to get Kamui'd :|

op is making stuff up ,and uses bad logic . gedo mazo was about to be kumuied. thats your proof that susanoo can be kumuied ? fail thread . thats just a guess

 

[TouchMyMangos]

So this is a kamui spam, but itachi has full knowledge? Person who said every technique has a weakness as full knowledge even before the fight. Fair enough. What about location.

Btw who mentioned anything about susano or are you debating both sides

Valley of the End. I'm giving my verdict here. Itachi has no way of countering it, especially since it's spammable now.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Kakashi is now stronger than Itachi.

Why?

Because Kakashi has more chakra than itachi. If they were to face each other, Kakashi would kamui itachi's head off like he did to naruto.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

itachi and kakashi faught about 2 times so far and itachi was show he had an upper hand in those battle.Kakashi still have alot to grow inorder to itachi

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Id love to say yes but probably not

 

[TouchMyMangos]

op is making stuff up ,and uses bad logic . gedo mazo was about to be kumuied. thats your proof that susanoo can be kumuied ? fail thread . thats just a guess

Everyone knows that Susanoo can be warped. You seem to be the only one.

 

[ShippudenRules]

70% of this list is total failure.

No :sy:. All these char. have the potential and the power to beat Kakashi. You're a fanboy that thinks that Kakashi is in the top 10 best char. of the serie. I'm sure about it. This list is good and you know it.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

No :sy:. All these char. have the potential and the power to beat Kakashi. You're a fanboy that thinks that Kakashi is in the top 10 best char. of the serie. I'm sure about it. This list is good and you know it.

Even the people defending Itachi in this thread will tell you there is much wrong with your list.

 

[Ninpou]

Valley of the End. I'm giving my verdict here. Itachi has no way of countering it, especially since it's spammable now.

It isnt spammable, when he used it in the manga there was a considerable gap bewteen each Kamui, he cant use it once then use it again a second later.

 

[Negative Knight]

@TouchmyMangos, i thought you told me you weren't going create any more of this troll threads ?

 

[TouchMyMangos]

It isnt spammable, when he used it in the manga there was a considerable gap bewteen each Kamui, he cant use it once then use it again a second later.

That is really bad logic and you know it.

@TouchmyMangos, i thought you told me you weren't going create any more of this troll threads ?

This is not a troll thread. No-one has given me a counter to Kamui. For Itachi, this counter does not exist.

 

[Midday]

People seem to have a problem with Kakashi for some reason. Just like Sasuke > Bee because of amaterasu, if that was restricted he would lose that fight. It's similar here that Kakashi can take out most characters with Kaumi but people seem to have a problem with it.