Is Kabuto really Kabuto?

[KillerPenguin]

I posted this all in another thread, but I think it requires its own sooo, read ahead!

"This is an off topic hypothesis but what would your opinion be on what would happen if Kabuto managed to take over Edo Madara's consciousness using the Edo Jutsu, then withdrawing him and using Orochimaru's transmigration ritual to merge with Madara's ET body?..

Wouldn't that would result in perfect immortality? (Only he could release the technique and the body cannot rot) and him having the ownership of the Rinnegan/EMS.

Therefore Orochimaru's jutsu would have been perfected and he would have access to all the Jutsu in the world through the Rinnegan...

Wouldn't this fit his final goal?
I'm pretty sure he has the capabilities to plan this far ahead.

On another note, I'm still quite sure that "Kabuto" is putting up a front and that Orochimaru's cells have taken over. Earlier in the series his eye markings were his hint to showing Naruto how much Orochimaru's cells had taken over his body...
I'm sure there is more to his character, and I wouldn't be suprised if this is a possible plot twist looming upon us.

If you are interested in discussing then please be my guest , don't troll or throw your opinions at me (like just calling me an idiot or something)

Thanks "

Thank you, and like it says if you want to discuss then go ahead XD

 

[KillerPenguin]

Should add that, as far as we know, only a portion of Orochimaru has been sealed away. The rest existed in Anko and Kabuto, but it seems Kabuto had plans for Anko's piece of the pie XD

 

[Don Roberto]

No Kabuto is a demon possesed evil witcher potato guy.:|

 

[King of Hell]

No Kabuto is a demon possesed evil witcher potato guy.:|

what?:shrug:

 

[KillerPenguin]

No Kabuto is a demon possesed evil witcher potato guy.:|

Technically.. umm.. yes I guess he is..
But if you replace 'a demon' with 'an Orochimaru' then.. I suppose you agree with me?

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I'm gonna call you potato man from now on..

 

[Don Roberto]

technically.. Umm.. Yes i guess he is..
But if you replace 'a demon' with 'an orochimaru' then.. I suppose you agree with me?

Cool



I'm gonna call you potato man from now on..

kill the non believer!

 

[Nara..]

agree with you, he said something like "I will learn the secret of rinnegan too"

 

[Download]

kabuto hasn't been taken over cuz he didn't have all of orochimaru inside him

 

[KillerPenguin]

kill the non believer!

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agree with you, he said something like "I will learn the secret of rinnegan too"

It seems like the sort of plan that Orochimaru would have. We know he knew about the MS progressing into the Rinnegan, so it is my guess that he chose Sasuke as his vessel not because he couldn't defeat Itachi, but because Itachi wasn't healthy, and thus was not suitable in the long term.

We also know that Orochimaru planned to defeat Itachi, using Sasuke as his vessel. Possibly to gain EMS, and if we combine this with his research into the creation of a Senju body, it is possible that he may have gotten to the same level as Madara.

One thing that Orochimaru said before his death was "It came to this then." Why would he take this variable into account and not plan ahead for it?
Therefore it is my reasoning that the current plot is a result of that second plan.

However, I suppose a bit of luck is on his side as he obviously did not forsee himself being sealed inside itachi's sword. So lucky for him, Kabuto is a greedy little turd..

Anywho, I can only speculate..
I need to Brainfart and S.S.S..:shrug:

 

[KillerPenguin]

kabuto hasn't been taken over cuz he didn't have all of orochimaru inside him

He said that the cells were taking over his body though, so either way if that progressed he would have literally "become" Orochimaru.

 

[WinterMute]

kabuto hasn't been taken over cuz he didn't have all of orochimaru inside him

If that is true....Why does it seem like he is trying to get back the peices he can...like anko?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Should add that, as far as we know, only a portion of Orochimaru has been sealed away. The rest existed in Anko and Kabuto, but it seems Kabuto had plans for Anko's piece of the pie XD

it wasnt a piece of oro, it was his soul, so theres no possible way cells could bring him back

 

[KillerPenguin]

If that is true....Why does it seem like he is trying to get back the peices he can...like anko?

He may be working on some sort of revival, but obviously we can only wait until this is cleared up.
Either way, if that is his plan my theory still stands

it wasnt a piece of oro, it was his soul, so theres no possible way cells could bring him back

If the cells could not bring him back, then why would Kabuto be trying to suppress them, and stop them from taking over his body?

 

[King of Hell]

Kabuto want's to surpass Lord Orochimaru, Which is probably why he wants all of Lord Orochimarus cell, he want's to be able to control them sorta like Naruto learned to control the Nine-tails.

 

[KillerPenguin]

Kabuto want's to surpass Lord Orochimaru, Which is probably why he wants all of Lord Orochimarus cell, he want's to be able to control them sorta like Naruto learned to control the Nine-tails.

Yes, this could be the case, but at the same time it may not be. Kabuto is yet to reveal where his loyalties lie (Damn dirty snake..).. Therefore, he could either be such an Orochimaru fanboy that he would give up his own life to be his vessel, or, in it for himself, with his own plan and ideals.

All in all, In my own opinion the outcome will be the same either way, I think Kabuto and Orochimaru have the same goal.


One problem with your statement though, If he is having such a hard time suppressing Orochimaru's cells then why would he add to his problems by injecting more?

 

[King of Hell]

One problem with your statement though, If he is having such a hard time suppressing Orochimaru's cells then why would he add to his problems by injecting more?

Naruto couldn't completely control the Nine-tails and yet he decided to take control of all of the Kyubi's chackra. I just think Kabuto is doing something similar. Kabuto said: "I decided I wished to be like you as well, Naruto-kun, and for that reason...with Orochimaru-sama now integrated into this body, I plan on finding a new "me", one stronger than Orochimaru-sama himself!"

 

[lanakau888]

No, because we already know who the real Kabuto is:

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[KillerPenguin]

Naruto couldn't completely control the Nine-tails and yet he decided to take control of all of the Kyubi's chackra. I just think Kabuto is doing something similar. Kabuto said: "I decided I wished to be like you as well, Naruto-kun, and for that reason...with Orochimaru-sama now integrated into this body, I plan on finding a new "me", one stronger than Orochimaru-sama himself!"

Yes that was his will, even though if that is the case, he may still have failed.
If you look at my first point, in that same conversation he showed Naruto his "Orchimaru-esque" features. He then went on to state that Orochimaru's cells had already taken over a third of his body, now that his entire body is similar in appearance to Orochimaru's we cannot be certain that it is actually Kabuto in that shell.

 

[King of Hell]

Yes that was his will, even though if that is the case, he may still have failed.
If you look at my first point, in that same conversation he showed Naruto his "Orchimaru-esque" features. He then went on to state that Orochimaru's cells had already taken over a third of his body, now that his entire body is similar in appearance to Orochimaru's we cannot be certain that it is actually Kabuto in that shell.

Hmm, well I suppose. Though it would be kind of stupid if he was Orochimaru, I think that Kabuto will learn to control the cells, he is too smart to be used as a vessel. (I know I sound like a fanboy, sorry) Another quote by Kabuto: "Finding a new me, that is the lesson you taught me." I don't think Orochimaru would admit to learning something from Naruto.

 

[KillerPenguin]

Hmm, well I suppose. Though it would be kind of stupid if he was Orochimaru, I think that Kabuto will learn to control the cells, he is too smart to be used as a vessel. (I know I sound like a fanboy, sorry) Another quote by Kabuto: "Finding a new me, that is the lesson you taught me." I don't think Orochimaru would admit to learning something from Naruto.

I'd prefer it to be Kabuto as well, but I suppose we have to wait until Kishi breaks the news haha. It would go along with the "Young generation overtaking the old theme" well.

Oh, and that last point, wasn't that when Kabuto was only partially taken over? As far as I am aware Naruto and the current form of Kabuto haven't had any contact?