[Discussion] IS Izanami a disappointment???

[Blaze Release]

People who either do not understand it, pro kabuto fans or pro itachi hate will undermine it.
Apart from the fact that the opponent is pretty much stuck in a loop where the user more or less forces them to choose their way, it can easily kill. Just like how itachi is more or less forcing kabuto to release edo tensei, he can force kabuto to do something else.

Secondly if you noticed at the last page of the latest chapter, kabuto is so vulnerable to any external attack its funny. Itachi pretty much realised this when he pat kabuto's head like a baws. In that state kabuto can be killed at any time

 

[Inception]

i think its a lame way to prolong a fight. And in this case a crap one.

What is intresting about this tech it goes against uchiha fighting styles.

Uchiha want to end a fight quicker due to their lower chakra reserves and use haxxed techs via their strong chakra.

But this tech encourages a long fight not so good if you not an uchiha edo tensei if you catch my drift.

Rofl. You talk like you know a lot about Uchiha yet you got the most important fact wrong.

The Uchiha were famous for their powerful chakra.

That's the first sentence on Naruto wiki regarding Uchiha abilities.

The elder brother inherited the Sage's "eyes", powerful chakra and spiritual abilities.

And again, the elder son of the Sage of Six Paths inherited his chakra, his eyes and his abilities.

If that's not enough, see below.

Even by his clan's standards, Madara's chakra was especially strong

Madara was born into the Uchiha clan that are known to have good amount of chakra reserve but his chakra was even stronger.

lol really, you think this jutsu can last forever? Izanagi didnt last forver and this is no different given this jutsu is meant to be a counter to izanagi.

We won't until it's revealed but yes, that's what I think.

 

[Inception]

thats assumption

No, it is not an assumption by any means. Izanami can be cast without the need of 5 senses; sight, smell, sound, touch, taste.

I pointed the same thing out on another thread. "Forcing" Kabuto to release Edo Tensei of his own accord is a pretty stupid strategy on Itachi's part. The only reason why Kabuto is still alive is because Itachi can't kill Kabuto before he releases Edo Tensei. And I'm sure Kabuto is eventually gonna realize(if he hasn't already) that releasing Edo Tensei will mean that the Uchiha bros aren't gonna be gentle anymore. Basically, ending Edo will mean the end for Kabuto. So, why would he willingly give up that kind of leverage just to get out of a loop.

He can always do it at a later time. Like after Madara won or something. Its not like he's suffering or anything. I'm sure that Kabuto is still aware of whats going on in Madara's battle. And I'm also sure that his plans are not being compromised by being momentarily stuck in a genjutsu-loop.

[edit] Infact, I'm bold enough to say that Itachi's actually the one thats stuck in the Izanami-loop

Why? Well for starters, Itachi cant kill Kabuto. Which means that Itachi cant end the loop by killing Kabuto. And secondly, it seems that the loop will only end when Kabuto ends Edo Tensei. Which means that although Kabuto's destiny might be set in stone, the timing of his destiny still seems to be in his own hands. Which means that only Kabuto gets to decide when Izanami should end. And Itachi is stuck with Kabuto until Kabuto makes his move.

You make a great point but how do you know that Izanami doesn't alter time like Itachi did using Tsukiyomi? From what I saw, Itachi and Sasuke both seemed untouched and almost as if the real fight had "ended" right after he told Sasuke about Izanami.

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

People who either do not understand it, pro kabuto fans or pro itachi hate will undermine it.
Apart from the fact that the opponent is pretty much stuck in a loop where the user more or less forces them to choose their way, it can easily kill. Just like how itachi is more or less forcing kabuto to release edo tensei, he can force kabuto to do something else.

Secondly if you noticed at the last page of the latest chapter, kabuto is so vulnerable to any external attack its funny. Itachi pretty much realised this when he pat kabuto's head like a baws. In that state kabuto can be killed at any time

If Kabuto dies by the hands of Itachi it will be a strategical disaster on Itachi's part. Itachi's main objective is to get rid of troublesome Edo's like Madara, Muu, etc. Killing Kabuto will only be to the determent of the Shinobi Alliance.

 

[blazekev90]

No, it is not an assumption by any means. Izanami can be cast without the need of 5 senses; sight, smell, sound, touch, taste.



You make a great point but how do you know that Izanami doesn't alter time like Itachi did using Tsukiyomi? From what I saw, Itachi and Sasuke both seemed untouched and almost as if the real fight had "ended" right after he told Sasuke about Izanami.

exactly how do you know this??? We have no idean exactly how Izanami was used, as Itachi mentioned it a number of times. As the last touch was a signal of its completion.

 

[Inception]

exactly how do you know this??? We have no idean exactly how Izanami was used, as Itachi mentioned it a number of times. As the last touch was a signal of its completion.

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Read it. Touch is part of the 5 senses. Izanami ignores the 5 senses.

 

[JakeLife510]

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Read it. Touch is part of the 5 senses. Izanami ignores the 5 senses.

Yep regardless of your five senses

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

You make a great point but how do you know that Izanami doesn't alter time like Itachi did using Tsukiyomi? From what I saw, Itachi and Sasuke both seemed untouched and almost as if the real fight had "ended" right after he told Sasuke about Izanami.

I get what your saying. That also crossed my mind and the only way to determine that is by waiting for the next couple of chapters to come out. So I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[ulqui0rraa]

kinda liked it

 

[Solo]

exactly how do you know this??? We have no idean exactly how Izanami was used, as Itachi mentioned it a number of times. As the last touch was a signal of its completion.

Wow.. I would post the manga image link, but the other dude already did.



I thought Tsukuyomi was mind rape....



Izanami... pure rape. I don't even think I've seen an anime or read a manga where someone was put into an infinite loop.

 

[Baka Sennin]

People who either do not understand it, pro kabuto fans or pro itachi hate will undermine it.
Apart from the fact that the opponent is pretty much stuck in a loop where the user more or less forces them to choose their way, it can easily kill. Just like how itachi is more or less forcing kabuto to release edo tensei, he can force kabuto to do something else.

Secondly if you noticed at the last page of the latest chapter, kabuto is so vulnerable to any external attack its funny. Itachi pretty much realised this when he pat kabuto's head like a baws. In that state kabuto can be killed at any time

I thought so at first also, but wouldn't Izanami prevent that?

 

[leafeater]

Ok, i was expecting Izanami to be some BA technique that would just be FULL OWNAGE (lol). But I must say I am so disappointed with the technique as whole, and wasnt expecting it to just be another form of genjutsu -_-

Am I the only one disappointed with the hype of Izanami????? It wasnt really lame, nothing special IMO

It is a badass technique. It determines the opponent's fate specifically, doesn't require the senses of the opponent to be vulnerable, costs a Sharingan eye, ...

I understand your argument though in that it doesn't appear as novel as you'd like, compared to other genjutsu. However, I think we should let it play out more before calling it a disappointment though, as perhaps there's more to be seen that further distinguishes it from other genjutsu.

Interesting thoughts though on the matter...

Peace

 

[belucEn]

Pretty cruel technique , but i hope in next manga chapter we will see when itachi used it on kabuto.

Izanami... pure rape. I don't even think I've seen an anime or read a manga where someone was put into an infinite loop.

Well, in Yu Yu Hakusho there was immortal guy so one guy lockeded him within a hallucination of his worst nightmare for all eternity.

 

[MasterofJutsu]

Yea that's a quite lame jutsu imo..
but every jutsu has it own purpose.. even this jutsu was a one shot against any powerful character.
and please we've seen enough of itachi.. he's already sealed nagato like it was nothing..

I expect live-breathing character to play more role in this war..
itachi should die soon (forever)

 

[blazekev90]

Yea that's a quite lame jutsu imo..
but every jutsu has it own purpose.. even this jutsu was a one shot against any powerful character.
and please we've seen enough of itachi.. he's already sealed nagato like it was nothing..

I expect live-breathing character to play more role in this war..
itachi should die soon (forever)

true, Edo continues to be a factor in this war for both sides.