I also hear people make argument that the NASA and all the scientists world over and pilots and sailors lie about Earth being round and it's flat. Inane arguments made to obstinately justify personal disregard for actual facts are just like that.@Avani
- I heard someone make the argument that Itachi was foolish for not telling konoha about Tobi being the reason for the Kyubi attack on Konoha. He than said that Itachi could of united Konoha and the Uchiha against a common enemy.
- I heard someone else make a argument that Itachi's reasoning for destroying the clan, the potential for sparking a 4th Shinobi war, was unfounded. As Konoha during the Kyuubi attack at the beginning of the series, during the sand invasion and after Pain decimating Konoha, didn't spark a 4th shinobi war.
Do you have counter arguments for these arguments?
- Itachi was barely 5 when Kyuubi attacked and there is nothing to indicate, Tobi detailed his role in Kyuubi attack to Itachi even when he found him some time before the massacre. Itachi could theorise but Uchiha were not exactly listening to him or inclined to suspect an Uchiha involvement to begin with. Or they would have been looking for one themselves. Unless. Tobi made an appearance to prove his existence, Itachi had little to convince people who didn't trust him.
Accepting Tobi's existence meant Uchiha first needed to listen to him and accept that one of their clan was involved; that the rest of the village was at least partially right in their speculation and accusations.
- Who are these people even?
# There is no way to predict what would have happened with 100% certainty but there is no reason to doubt that a full on civil war would bring higher causalities and would lave Konoha weaker and open to more threats, physical, political and economical . As it is we see both third and fifth hokage constantly trying to keep up the pretence of being stronger than they were and avoid refusing missions, despite being short on man power. e.g. They tried to kidnap Hinata and forced Konoha to sacrifice Neji's father. Sand did attack.
# Pain invasion did bring the fourth shinobi war right on it's heels. It's just that other villages were forced in to alliance since they were under attack too from a common enemy.
# Uchiha were still part of Konoha after Kyuubi attack. (they weren't taken out till 7 year later when they planned coup). Itachi's action in the event ensured the causalities were kept to minimum and the village survived and was almost ready by the time Sand attacked. With higher causalities previously and more inside conflicts, it would have been harder for Konoha.
# Right after that battle Leaf allied with Sand. Gara becoming kage cemented the ties more, since he ended up having friends in Konoha. So that lowered the threat of attacks for both - mutual benefits as they both helped each other. So why it would initiate war just then?
Still Akatsuki stated making moves for the bijjus around the same time so the next war was simmering. Rather, it was simmering for a long time- Konoha was being attacked by more than one parties. Minato bought some time for village when he forced Tobi to retreat but hold Kyubi in Konoha. Itachi was next in line to buy some more time that kept Konoha strong enough to raise Naruto's generation to join forces. Third and fifth kept it together with constant efforts.
# Itachi also kept a tab on Akatsuki and was a deterrent for Tobi till he was alive and that too give Konoha some breathing space for some time.
Anyway, to argue that a full on civil war would have no effect on village's prospects is naive. Anyone who argues that is leaving in a shell far away from such conflict zones.