Whatever you say hmm
Madara was in a checkmate position. He was either going to get fodderized by Naruto and Sasuke or Black Zetsu was going to sweep up.
Fodara was getting tossed around like a salad until black zetsu put him out of his misery.
Is Itachi really a failure?
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Madara was in a checkmate position. He was either going to get fodderized by Naruto and Sasuke or Black Zetsu was going to sweep up.
Fodara was getting tossed around like a salad until black zetsu put him out of his misery.
Exactly, did he? No, he didn't. That team that escaped went on to release Infinite Tsukuyomi. That means Madara failed.
You're saying Madara accomplished his goal, he didn't, he merely got it started, but it failed.
Wow, can you really get this slow? His goal was to activate Infinite Tsukyomi, did he do it? Yes, that is all there is to it, he activated it, sure it got dispelled later, but he achieved it, that is all that is matters.
A good example is Naruto who wanted to become Hokage, he becomes Hokage but what if somebody killed him or if they said that he is not allowed to be Hokage anymore, does that mean that he never became Hokage? Exactly, he achieved his goal that is all that matters, what happens next is irrelevant seeing as he achieved his goal, something sasky never did.
Edit: Another very good example is Minato, his goal was to become Hokage ever since he was a kid, he became one and then he died short time later, does that mean that he failed his goal? Exactly.
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Keeping people trapped in IT was highly important to Madara. His goal was to achieve "his" (*cough* Kaguya's) version of "peace" by locking the entire world an eternal dream of rainbows and happiness. The fact that the jutsu failed meant that he too, failed.
Are all sasky fappers this stupid? I sure hope not.
Like i said, his goal was to active the Infinte Tsukyomi (something i have mention and something the manga have mentioned 100+ times), he did it, sure it was all false to what he believed but all he wanted was to activate it, he did, it turned out to be a false dream but he did achieve his goal, something you and the sasky fappers cannot comprehend.
Lol, that logic though.
Madara's goal was not the simple casting of Infinite Tsukuyomi, rather Infinite Tsukuyomi was needed to put an end to the shinobi system, which he deemed inconsistent, and trap everyone in a form of "heaven" via a dream forever. That didn't happen. You can't say "Madara placed everyone in a dream for 1 day so he achieved his goal."
Your examples are also inadmissible. Becoming Hokage is a title/job, which Naruto and Minato earned, whether they were killed off after that is irrelevant.
No, his goal was to achieve his version of peace. Not necessarily to activate IT.
Madara stated several times that Hashirama's world (the real world) was a failure and he wanted to rectify that failure by making the world sleep for eternity. He failed, stop trying to retcon the manga.
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It seems that you do not read the manga properly, and just look at the pretty pictures. I encourage you to reread chapter 665. Madara's goal was to end the world and create a new one as he states here:
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That's what Infinite Tsukuyomi was for. Your logic implies Madara could activated Infinite Tsukuyomi, released it an hour later, then pat himself on the back for "accomplishing his goal." Lol
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His goal was to cast IT which he did. Sasuke wanted to kill Itachi, he didn't. Simple
His goal was to cast IT which he did. Sasuke wanted to kill Itachi, he didn't. Simple
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Guess I upset too many fanboys lol.
Itachi was a failure, his goal was to spy on akatsuki, giving intel to konoha, have his brother return to the village and stop the uchiha.
As an edo it was to stop the edo tensei.
Lets see, he:
-failed to give proper intel on akatsuki, no one in konoha knew about the moons eye plan before tobi announced it
-he failed to keep his secret, thus making sasuke evil. (What naruto and hashirama did were their achievements, but you can give a bit of credit to edo itachi, but still w.o the last fight of this manga, sasuke wouldve been a villain)
-He failed to stop edo tensei madara
-Even itachi admitted that if he had entrusted sasuke feom the start he couldve changed their parents and the uchiha, this was because he acknowledged his own failure at not being able to stop the uchiha peacefully
-If it wasnt for nb and other forums I wouldve liked this character lol.
Itachi was a failure, his goal was to spy on akatsuki, giving intel to konoha, have his brother return to the village and stop the uchiha.
As an edo it was to stop the edo tensei.
Lets see, he:
-failed to give proper intel on akatsuki, no one in konoha knew about the moons eye plan before tobi announced it
-he failed to keep his secret, thus making sasuke evil. (What naruto and hashirama did were their achievements, but you can give a bit of credit to edo itachi, but still w.o the last fight of this manga, sasuke wouldve been a villain)
-He failed to stop edo tensei madara
-Even itachi admitted that if he had entrusted sasuke feom the start he couldve changed their parents and the uchiha, this was because he acknowledged his own failure at not being able to stop the uchiha peacefully
-If it wasnt for nb and other forums I wouldve liked this character lol.
