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Broly as a kid feats > Goten as a kid feats
Broly is non canon
Broly as a kid feats > Goten as a kid feats
Add Fodderuzen got his @ss kicked by oro whom Itachi negged at age of 13
Broly is non canon
Hiruzen is a spineless coward whom let Danzo walk all over him as well as the other two elders. He let Naruto's Jinchuuriki status go wild into the village. Let Naruto live on his own since lord knows how long... Let Uchiha massacre happen. Didn't tell Naruto at least of his mother. :leaf:
That's a start...
Danzo, Danzo, Danzo... Lol This dude was all about "the good of Konoha."
>Tried to overthrow Hokage's several times.
>Allied with Hanzo making a Rinnegan weilder Konoha's enemy.
>Had some connections to Tobi and Oro, the latter beyond ROOT.
>Just plain retard, could have let Shisui prevent Coup, but retardism, smh.
Good enough start. U_U
Tangential discussion. You should discuss how killing toddlers reflect on Itachi's character
i did but then I joined IB as I found blame of everything is put on Uchiha's by NB members
I agree with u people that Hiruzen was beyond despicable. But imagine can you kill a child ? No matter what. Can u ?
le me no .
Me neither. So how could the irreproachable Itachi ? And if he could y not Sasuke ? That is a big ques
.he can kill children but not Sasuke. Not good at all
Don't forget how Fodderuzen let Ay (The Raikage) walk all over him during the "The Hyuga Affair". A Cloud Ninja tries to kidnap Hinata, and steal the Byakugan, and is promptly soloed by Hiashi. Ay threatened war with Konoha if the body of the killer (a Hyuga) was not sent to Hidden Cloud as retribution. Ohnoki called out Ay during the Five Kage Summit for trying to steal KKG and jutsus in order to increase The Cloud's power. Hiruzen, not wanting to risk a war/ a fight with Ay and Bee; acquiesced to all of Ay's demands. If Minato was Hokage, he would've told Ay get bent. Hell even Danzo, would've and has stood up to Ay. But Fodderuzen folded over like a b*tch. No way his old @ss wanted to fight the Raikage.
The same Raikage who sanctioned kidnapping a 4 year old girl, but was wailing like a b*tch when he learned someone kidnapped his 35 year old brother. Get a backbone Hiruzen.
Soldiers r forced to make horrible choice taking life.
He is a Ninja in a crap sack world
I feel Goku's ideals as a warrior are spot on. The best warriors ideals in all the series

Thanks to Dat rock on which he hit his head as a child![]()
Me neither. So how could the irreproachable Itachi ? And if he could y not Sasuke ? That is a big ques
.he can kill children but not Sasuke. Not good at all
Because that was his only condition, to spare his little brother.
The whole thing is messed up though.
Don't forget how Fodderuzen let Ay (The Raikage) walk all over him during the "The Hyuga Affair". A Cloud Ninja tries to kidnap Hinata, and steal the Byakugan, and is promptly soloed by Hiashi. Ay threatened war with Konoha if the body of the killer (a Hyuga) was not sent to Hidden Cloud as retribution. Ohnoki called out Ay during the Five Kage Summit for trying to steal KKG and jutsus in order to increase The Cloud's power. Hiruzen, not wanting to risk a war/ a fight with Ay and Bee; acquiesced to all of Ay's demands. If Minato was Hokage, he would've told Ay get bent. Hell even Danzo, would've and has stood up to Ay. But Fodderuzen folded over like a b*tch. No way his old @ss wanted to fight the Raikage.
The same Raikage who sanctioned kidnapping a 4 year old girl, but was wailing like a b*tch when he learned someone kidnapped his 35 year old brother. Get a backbone Hiruzen.
Don't forget how Fodderuzen let Ay (The Raikage) walk all over him during the "The Hyuga Affair". A Cloud Ninja tries to kidnap Hinata, and steal the Byakugan, and is promptly soloed by Hiashi. Ay threatened war with Konoha if the body of the killer (a Hyuga) was not sent to Hidden Cloud as retribution. Ohnoki called out Ay during the Five Kage Summit for trying to steal KKG and jutsus in order to increase The Cloud's power. Hiruzen, not wanting to risk a war/ a fight with Ay and Bee; acquiesced to all of Ay's demands. If Minato was Hokage, he would've told Ay get bent. Hell even Danzo, would've and has stood up to Ay. But Fodderuzen folded over like a b*tch. No way his old @ss wanted to fight the Raikage.
The same Raikage who sanctioned kidnapping a 4 year old girl, but was wailing like a b*tch when he learned someone kidnapped his 35 year old brother. Get a backbone Hiruzen.