Is it really unrealistic?

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I know I'm a tad late on this, but I see some people are still unsure about how Obito/Tobi could have possibly fought Minato/Fourth Hokage.

Is it really illogical for it to have occured. Here are my thoughts.

1. When we see from the beginning, we that obito while fighting Minato has the usual mask with one eye whole. Obito had only one eye (remember the Uchiha massacre had not yet happened this it's unlikely for Obito to have obtained a second eye. Therefore, there was no need for a second hole. Furthermore it could not be madara because as we have seen from 602, his right was missing, while Obito's left eye was missing.

2. Obito's growth. This by the looks of it have bugged people the most. How could Obito grow so quickly? That's like saying, why is the first hokages face coming out of Madara, personally I think it is the lack of initial control because of the first's cells that were implemented into Obito's body to allow him to regain his arm and whatnot.

3. Obito himself is not that skill full, just like when he was young. Most people think that because he was with madara and that he has won all fights he has been in, makes him one of the most skill full ninja's in the naruto universe. This is not the case, for me at least. The only reason that Obito has won all his encounters is due to his ability with Kamui, which allows other to phase through him. Meaning that in practical terms he is invincible or near enough to it, plus he doesn't have to worry about being harmed as he regenerates because of the first's cells. Without Kamui, he would have been killed by Konan and other ninja. The fourth would have killed him before the events of naruto. Heck he would have been dead in those bolders still.

Now I know these are only three points, but, I think they are significant enough to mention as it does add up and could be possible plot hole fillers.

Thanks for reading if you have got this far.
 

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obito fought minato yes

shit is being explained upcomming chapters

What used to throw me off before all the information was the way Obito says "He is fast"
You would think that Obito of all people would know how fast the fourth was.
 

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Anything is possible in NV,
i mean... tobi is obito.

obito can pass through rocks with just 2 tomoe sharingan.
Madara can live for more than 150 years.
Konoha can allow the first hokages DNA to get abused by almost everyone,as if they don't care.


Also, yeah welcome to the base :D :cool:
 

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Everything will be explained, hopefully.
 

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during the fight obito didn't reaaly do ant thing to minato and got owned it wasn't like they were fighting on an even battle level obito just had the nine tails
 

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during the fight obito didn't reaaly do ant thing to minato and got owned it wasn't like they were fighting on an even battle level obito just had the nine tails

Don't forget Kamui, which, Minato himself said was better than both his own and the second's s/t jutsu
 

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Anything is possible in NV,
i mean... tobi is obito.

obito can pass through rocks with just 2 tomoe sharingan.
Madara can live for more than 150 years.
Konoha can allow the first hokages DNA to get abused by almost everyone,as if they don't care.


Also, yeah welcome to the base :D :cool:

Thanks! :p and I guess they could Tsunade might actually become useful if they did ;)
 

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People dont understand that the way he uses Kamui for Offense and defense is nearly impossible to go up against. Minato never figured out Kamui's weakness, he only analysed the jutsu and determined that the only way to beat him is to trade blows. Obito knows this himself why do you think he only used one Rinnegan? Without Kamui he is highly beatable.
 

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People dont understand that the way he uses Kamui for Offense and defense is nearly impossible to go up against. Minato never figured out Kamui's weakness, he only analysed the jutsu and determined that the only way to beat him is to trade blows. Obito knows this himself why do you think he only used one Rinnegan? Without Kamui he is highly beatable.

Exactly my point, he is still the same old obito that didn't really have much natural skill.
 

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I will say 1 thing. It would be impossible for Obito to fight Minato with just 1 eye. The risk in doing it would simply be way too high. Making logic over, why he has just 1 eye is wrong. Uchiha Madara also had an eye, when Obito fell to him. We can only be right to assume that Madara trained Obito for this encounter. Madara also said something very important in the latest chapter, and it was that he needed 2 sharingan to unleash his full power. But that was not marked on himself alone, that goes for any Uchiha.

If Obito could have faught that well against Minato with just 1 eye, Kishi would dissapoint me even more. I'm sure he had another eye. Also in case he needed to use Izanagi - for instance. Also Madara might very well have had an eye with a very unique ability. Also don't forget that Obito also hid his other eye, when he fought Konan. I don't think there would be any purpose in hiding his other eye if it was just for the use of Izanagi, since almost no people knew about Izanagi. So there is definitly a secret we are yet to discover.
 

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NOTHING is unrealistic in manga/anime.
 
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