Is Infinite Tsukuyomi a good idea?

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Momo86

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Reality probably exists, but our mind cannot read it fully... it is an esntabilished point of moder philosophy. We reach a common consensus on what is reality otherwise we'd just lose sanity.

But here's the keyword: consensus. Madara doesn't want us to consent to come at peace with each other, he wants to enstabilish peace with his own sheer will. "You are now at peace, because I said it and what I say is what is."

This poses two problem, the first one is proposed by Gaara himself: what meaning does hold a peace achieved through one individual forcing is own will on everyone else?

The second problem, what happens in this dream world? Are we all deprived of our individuality as Obito says, or it is just like a world of our own dreams like the sixth Naruto movie suggests? In the latter case, who decide what it is in this dream world? There have to be rich and poor? How rich and how poor? Are animals treated fairly, or not? Can gay couple marry? Are all races equal? Are all jobs equal? Do I have the right to use violence on others or it's not just war, but violence as a whole that is erased? And if violence is erased, what about hate? Do I have the right to hate my neighbour, or even hate is erased? How do children live their lives? How do the elderly live their lives? Do people get sick? If they do, how are they treated? If not, is everyone immortal in this dreamworld, but at the same time uncapable of using violence? Is death as a whole that is erased as a concept? If it is, what meaning does this illusionary life hold, without the knowledge that life itself is limited? Or there is death, but only of old age? How old is the right age to die?


.......you see, it goes on, and on, and on. Creating a world from scratch, even if it's built upon our own perceptions and not "real" (but like I said, reality isn't absolute anyway) isn't an easy thing to do. There are all sorts of difficult decisions to take, and there is only one who takes all of them, and - you guessed it - it happens to be Madara.

Am I fine with one individual, now matter how sensitive, how wise, how powerful it is, making all these decisions? Hell no.
 
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it's a flawed plan on so many levels:
you can't actually trust someone who controlled one person(yagura) and that caused a country where children kill each other to select the best fighter(bloody mist).
the plan itself is not permanent,with a living human body madara is bound to die after a period of time releasing the juubi and the jutsu in the process.causing a disaster.
you have to take the human nature in count too: no one like to be controlled no matter what the goal is.
also the fact that the plan is a mere theory not even once tested in a minor level,and i have yet to see madara controlling more than one person with his sharingan,how about the whole world.
also when there's a cloudy day,or a moonless night,can the genjutsu persist?
 

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First its being run by a sociopath, second its basically suicide.

I view it as a coward's way out of life, its the equivalent of a child running away to Disney Land.

Plus its only Madara's and Obito's version of a perfect world, no two people have the same view of a perfect world.

In the end, anyone who gives into such a plan is nothing more then a first class coward.
 
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First its being run by a sociopath, second its basically suicide.

I view it as a coward's way out of life, its the equivalent of a child running away to Disney Land.

Plus its only Madara's and Obito's version of a perfect world, no two people have the same view of a perfect world.

In the end, anyone who gives into such a plan is nothing more then a first class coward.
Well, that IS a very good way of saying the same things I tried to say with less words. Kudos to you.
 
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