[Discussion] Is Gaara stronger than he was when he was a Jinchuuriki?

[leafeater]

Spoiler if you haven't read the latest chapter.....


Gaara's dad was certain Gaara used the Shukaku, which is a huge compliment in itself.You saw the shock in his face when Gaara showed up, and he even said that his hands had gotten stronger.

All this brings me too how much did Gaara really grow?

Yeah, remember he couldn't sleep, which was driving him insane before the time skip as other wise the Shukaku would take him over. He matured over the time skip because of his encounter with Naruto (understanding love and caring for others), and by the time he lost the Shukaku he had gained an intuitive understanding of sand control, which I presume he wasn't born with. Albeit, given his father's ability and the 3rd Kazekage's, sand manipulation seems like a standard Kazekage skill with variations (sand, iron sand, gold,...).

As well, while he may not have the "will of fire", Hiruzen said a shinobi's true strength comes from fighting to protect others, which Gaara is doing, especially for Naruto.

I think the Shukaku basically served as a set of training wheels. Now Gaara has those off and is riding a real bike. He's stronger mentally, which I think is making him stronger physically as well leading to better jutsu. Finally, he's in the desert, and his moniker name is, "Gaara of the Desert". Thus, in this environment he's likely more powerful where sand is bountiful (unlike against Kimimaro where he had to make it, for example) so he's got the added advantage.

Peace

are you joking now he is a kazekage

That was initially done solely to keep him as a weapon in the village as much as possible, not as a sign of respect or respect of his power really.

Peace

 

[Frozenstein]

just like other characters, he's stronger now plus he's in the desert...

 

[siyo]

Ill tell you why Gaara is stronger:


Each tailed beast seems to have some drawback...

The Kyuubi for example is a douche...



Shukaku gives you insomnia. You can't sleep.... Now ... think back to the beginning of Naruto .. Isn't chakra the combination of mental and physical energy? Hey wait without sleep .. How do you control your mental energy?

He is well rested now so he can think better, he certainly has a better chakra control and he might even have more chakra in total.

Yeah, remember he couldn't sleep, which was driving him insane before the time skip as other wise the Shukaku would take him over. He matured over the time skip because of his encounter with Naruto (understanding love and caring for others), and by the time he lost the Shukaku he had gained an intuitive understanding of sand control, which I presume he wasn't born with. Albeit, given his father's ability and the 3rd Kazekage's, sand manipulation seems like a standard Kazekage skill with variations (sand, iron sand, gold,...).
As well, while he may not have the "will of fire", Hiruzen said a shinobi's true strength comes from fighting to protect others, which Gaara is doing, especially for Naruto.

Excellent points.Gaara had nightmares all the time and he was always afraid, as leafeater said, of the beast taking over.He couldn't have had a great focus, plus before he met naruto he was almost like a zombie where his only objective was to destroy anything he could get a hold of.He could not trust anybody,which resulted in him not evolving, despite having the shukaku feeding him chakra.Now he is cleaned up and he has hope and faith in not only himself but also his comrades.I also agree that his sand control seems a lot better now and as i said before it is was kishi was hinting with gaara saying that he does not need it anymore.

I think the Shukaku basically served as a set of training wheels. Now Gaara has those off and is riding a real bike. He's stronger mentally, which I think is making him stronger physically as well leading to better jutsu. Finally, he's in the desert, and his moniker name is, "Gaara of the Desert". Thus, in this environment he's likely more powerful where sand is bountiful (unlike against Kimimaro where he had to make it, for example) so he's got the added advantage.

btw I like this analogy very much.The shukaku was like a chain he needed to fight with and he became very good, but when he takes them off he becomes much lighter and he is not restricted by another force inside him.And it doesn't look like the Shukaku could do anything gaara couldn't , he just needed to train in his element, and it is highly likely that we will see the fruits of this in the upcomig fights.

 

[Migualon J.J.]

i think it´s not only because of he can sleep well now, i think that he can control his chakra better than when he had shukaku in himself + i really doubt that gaara would defeat shukaku in 1 vs 1 battle

 

[GiM9Y]

he was a little kid when he had shukaku in him, now his a young adolescent..
ofcourse he surpassed that little boy.. experience beats a lot..

 

[Lostdreams]

Gaara had one of the most useful beast though.
He didn't get sheer chakra like naruto but he got techniques that was perfect for a sand ninja.

However since it made him crazy and could never really sleep he was a prisoner in a way naruto and bee never were.

honestly i think the seal they used on gaara had to be the worst one.

 

[siyo]

honestly i think the seal they used on gaara had to be the worst one.

i think you're on to something here.In theory it shouldn't have bothered him if the seal was strong.Gaara was haunted at night even though he wasn't using any chakra at all, which is weird. It could have been done on purpose by the sand leaders to make Gaara the ultimate weapon guiding his anger and frustration towards his enemies.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Gaara is stronger than he was when he was a jinchuuriki but he has less potential now.
If he were to control Shukaku like naruto and Bee currently do he would have a new found power.

 

[Gilda]

He is stronger because now he can control himself and he can use better the sand by himself

 

[nite]

I think so .

hmm If Bee had Raikage as his sun, Naruto had Kushina & Minato as his suns.

What was Garas' sun/s ? Im gonna guess his Sun was his village or Naruto .

Just like Bee & Naruto, The power that let Gara use Shukakus' power was his own that grew as soon as he stopped becoming the homicidal Malicious maniac.

Thoughts on this ?

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

i think hes stronger, having a purpose (winning over suna as kazekage and now protecting naruto) and being able to sleep without having a demon eat at your sanity the entire time would really help someone focus on being a better ninja, even with losing the passive auto-protective sand i think hes better overall.

 

[siyo]

I think so .

hmm If Bee had Raikage as his sun, Naruto had Kushina & Minato as his suns.

What was Garas' sun/s ? Im gonna guess his Sun was his village or Naruto .

Just like Bee & Naruto, The power that let Gara use Shukakus' power was his own that grew as soon as he stopped becoming the homicidal Malicious maniac.

Thoughts on this ?

Why do mean by suns'? You mean like an inspiration? If so i agree gaara has found peace by protecting the people he rules and because of naruto who showed him the way, when it comes to getting rid of hatred and negativity.He then opened the doors to gaining the shukaku's powers

 

[GaaratheFifth]

Absolutely, he is stronger now than ever.

The 1-tailed beast was the weakest beast, and we have seen that ninjas can be matches for tailed beasts. So, why can't Gaara be equal to or greater than one?

 

[griems]

Seemed like the Skukaku put a lot of draining on Gaara aswel, not just give him more power.

 

[siyo]

Absolutely, he is stronger now than ever.

The 1-tailed beast was the weakest beast, and we have seen that ninjas can be matches for tailed beasts. So, why can't Gaara be equal to or greater than one?

Exactly, it shouldn't surprise people if his abilities surpassed the shukaku,when he only had one tail.

 

[Captain Shodai]

Being a jinchuriki magnified whatever strength he had, so no.

 

[wadifak]

he is more powerful now but he hasnt a huge amount of chakra as shukaku does

 

[Zero Tails]

Of course, he's stronger, but he would be even stronger if he still had shukaku and even more so if he learned to control it.

Basically, being a jinchiruki gives you higher potential with more chakra and additional techniques.

 

[raxy]

The poll says it all.....xd

 

[ninetailedhokagesage]

gaara is a awesome character he is strong no doubt about that and i think he is atleast on par with the shukaku