[Discussion] Is discrimination/bullying necessary to keep balance?

[Nathan]

If you think about it, discriminating & bullying keeps order and balance. Let me start by saying that by bullying I don't mean beating up a kid, taking lunch money or threats but the simple insult type of bullying.

In my country (Australia) I always see 'obese' girls in skin tight clothes and it's horrifying, yes it doesn't matter what you look like blah blah but if somebody would have insulted that obese girl (in a friendly way) she wouldn't be in the state she is right now.

My brother used to be chubby, I kept teasing him, called him fat, etc.. only because I wanted him to lose that extra 5-8 kg so he would be happier. And you know what he did after months of being bullied by me? He lost his weight.

Right now I don't know how to put it into words but you all know what I mean right?

Putting our country to shame, just by asking this question. Bully or discrimination is never okay no matter the reason.

 

[Zenic]

Putting our country to shame, just by asking this question. Bully or discrimination is never okay no matter the reason.

The obese girls dressing like prostitutes are putting our country to shame U_U

 

[SenseiMartian]

Skinner's negative reinforcement (and actually all of his operant conditioning components) are very tricky with humans, because each person has different reinforcers. ie: Physiologically/psychologically/etc, we are not supposed to enjoy jumping out of a plane and parachuting; but for some people, they love it. (Though even in this case, the act of skydiving just becomes a discriminative stimulus)

 

[Klaroline]

I'm not going to lie here, but I used to be a little chubby and my brother did the same thing. Now, I am a lot skinnier and healthier. So, I understand where you are coming from.

 

[Amantius]

Damn I don't know, I've always found my self looking pass a woman weight issue and seeing their heart. So these things has never been a factor in whoever i go out with,

 

[UchihaBrat]

Ugh.. I'm sorry to say this, but the point you're making is as irritating as one made by someone I had an argument with a while back with. It's actually the same point.
He said that saying mean things towards someone like "get a job you lazy ass!," or something like that would work in a positive way, so to speak. He said it could have a positive effect, but here's the deal bro:

You say as with your brother, he lost weight, and I do believe it was partly because of your behaviour towards him, but what really is it that has happened?
I'm prone to think that you and the guy I was having an argument with are about as sensible/tactful as walls are.

What I'm trying to say here is: for something like this to even "work" you would need a kind of relationship that allowed such inconsiderate behaviour to begin with, brothers being such a pitiful excuse nowadays, family overall I would say, even "friends".
You can't possibly think that you can go around and say that to a stranger, do you? I say you risk a punch to the face, a reply of equally inconsiderate nature or hurting the feelings of this person, which seemingly isn't a problem for you, nor the guy I was talking to. Edit: I take what I said about your common sense back, you seem to know the boundaries better than I had expected, atta boy! How could change out of something like that even be something, and let me use a rather popular word for this, "positive"?

I'd also like to point out another thing; even if you're brothers, do you think you know your brother well enough to say what's on his mind? To say whether he was or wasn't hurt by what you said? Did you ask him even or does that not matter to you? Or do you actually know that something like what you said to him is considered to be a mean thing to say, and said it anyway? Exactly what kind of relationship would that give?

Look, see here; I'm kind of reprimanding you, but not as much you as I am every person who thinks like this.

Now, let me address the main question: is it necessary to keep the balance?
What balance a you referring to?

 

[YowYan]

Your example is legit, but ''balance''?

 

[Zenic]

Your example is legit, but ''balance''?

Balance as in: Bullying has been on Earth since the dawn of time so why try preventing it when nothing serious has happened?

Better not to risk something new when something old has worked for us no matter how unfortunate it may be :l

 

[YowYan]

Balance as in: Bullying has been on Earth since the dawn of time so why try preventing it when nothing serious has happened?

Better not to risk something new when something old has worked for us no matter how unfortunate it may be :l

I think you'd be better off saying that people should use the right words to politely correct someone on his/her lifestyle without being too demeaning. Bullying shouldn't even be in the picture when it comes to this.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

Positive enforcement is indeed effective but what if the person is lazy?

Everyone is lazy, but everyone also wants/need something.

 

[HadouKage]

I dont understand what you mean by "keep balance". The example you gave is understandable tho

^ right?

OT: You know people who get bullied and teased not only have their self esteemed lowered but sometimes take drastic measures such as substance abuse and even suicide right?

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

If you think about it, discriminating & bullying keeps order and balance. Let me start by saying that by bullying I don't mean beating up a kid, taking lunch money or threats but the simple insult type of bullying.

In my country (Australia) I always see 'obese' girls in skin tight clothes and it's horrifying, yes it doesn't matter what you look like blah blah but if somebody would have insulted that obese girl (in a friendly way) she wouldn't be in the state she is right now.

My brother used to be chubby, I kept teasing him, called him fat, etc.. only because I wanted him to lose that extra 5-8 kg so he would be happier. And you know what he did after months of being bullied by me? He lost his weight.

Right now I don't know how to put it into words but you all know what I mean right?

hmm balance huh so i guess my way is when i see a bully i go right up and shatter his jaw that my way of keeping the balance zenic