[Discussion] Is being a Virgin really a bad thing?

[SayWhat21]

What if someone had *** and said there were more important things than *** still? Because there can be more important things than ***. Its not impossible.

well there probably lying about having *** they want to seem mature they obvious want some, trust me when your day comes you will realize how great *** is

 

[Raphael sannin]

Most, but not all, I have known plenty with amputated d1cks ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

why were they amputated???

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Care for your loved ones and especially yourself, but don't care about what faceless people on a computer think, or people you might never seen again after you graduate from school.

I mean I get what he was trying to say but the beginning part completely contradicted it for me. Life does matter, people's opinions don't.

 

[Nakagami]

You understand me

Always have, V, and I always will. I see it that way too, only you are the Master at putting it into words. I just simplify it. Lol

 

[Jinrou]

its like i said they havent experince it look at the post man the ones that say there's more important things than *** are virgins no offense

So you're saying *** is the most important thing in the world? Just asking Lol

 

[Smile]

I will leave this thread and go off to sleep.

Although it is very fascinating to see so many different types of opinions on this subject and how much discussion this thread has generated. I will awake tommorrow more knowledgeable than I was before.

Thanks guys.

 

[Bling Kai]

Thank you punk for your blessing to this thread.



What he's saying is completely different, he's saying life doesn't matter. You're on some other personal stuff you have to work through.

We'll you are right about that in fact forget what I said about not being deppressed I think I might be getting depression. No lie have contemplated suicide before but have never done so. I don't think I'll ever comit suicide but just knowing that I think about it as much as I do makes me think I have depression.

 

[SayWhat21]

So you're saying *** is the most important thing in the world? Just asking Lol

not the most important but you what i mean they say *** doesn't matter but it does its like a lot of people say they don't like being in relationships there obviously lying they want a gf or like people who like being alone its obvious they don't want to be alone

 

[Scooby Doo]

As far as I can tell...Most virgins above a certain age are usually virgins either because they didn't even try for whatever reason (low confidence usually or religious upbringing...etc.), or it was their choice to wait. Virginity is often associated with being lonely. But. Someone can have many bfs/gfs without having ***.

Are virgins missing out? Dunno *shrug* Most people don't die as virgins, so why rush?

 

[-Punk-]

No problem @Fiddlesticks .

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[Jazzy Stardust]

We'll you are right about that in fact forget what I said about not being deppressed I think I might be getting depression. No lie have contemplated suicide before but have never done so. I don't think I'll ever comit suicide but just knowing that I think about it as much as I do makes me think I have depression.

Yeah if you think of it even once you have depression. Unless you're like in a situation were you would die or something.

But life is for you to live man, you're the only one who can enjoy your life. Make it interesting. Think positively. There is good in almost all things in a normal life.

 

[NineSNS]

Whether it's good or bad or meaningless depends on what you want and what you value.

 

[Bling Kai]

lol No, you are just butthurt.

What I said is not how I feel, but how I view the world in a scientific and philosophical perspective, and as I explained above, my point is you choose what matters to you.

but then again, youre an idiot.

You seem like a very intellectual guy which I like cause I myself am very intellectual (I think very deeply about even the simplest of things) but I don't show my intellect on Naruotbase. I like to make chaos on Narutobase but haven't done so in a while.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

youre an idiot because you jump to conclusions before understanding

No I understood completely and I commented as such.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

Apparently you havent read the long version of my view bud.

I doubt many would understand it though U_U but let me shorten it for you by a mile

What I said is a fact, not an opinion, BUT to bring you in on the conclusion of my view sparing you the details, Nothing truly matters. Matterness itself is a concept made by humans only, as far as the universe is concerned, its all a process. However as human beings we are able to observe and feel the world, which puts an illusionary matterness to everything, however unreal it is, we are bound by it and are entitled to care, BUT only about the things we want to care about, the things that are "almost" worth it, and by that I mean the things that are as close to mattering as it gets, above all, Love for family, basically and scientifically that is also an illusion dependent on emotions however from a Universal point of view, it is the strongest and purest force among us, and as the fundamental law of the universe supports
the survival and prosperation of strength, and the prosperation of our own inner/outer self, I think the bond of love is subject for evolution therefore certified by the Universe, thus as close to matterness as possible, yet still essentially an illusion.

I can see you're pov but being a christian I believe that every life has meaning and everything you do on this earth will decide what kind of legacy you leave for the next generation and will also decide whether or not God will accept you into heaven. Not saying this is a bad way to have a view of things but it is too depressing of a way to think because when it comes down to it you have to be the best you can be and you won't be able to do that if you see everything as an illusion Lol

 

[Υαmí]

*** is overrated and mostly done by teens nowadays to be "in" and not made fun of, or pressured into it. Some are just plain horny too, but being a virgin is not terrible. I am. 31 and I refuse to sleep with a guy I don't love or plan to marry. I've done other things as a teen/young adult with my bf's, but never went all the way by choice, and I have no regrets.

The choice is always yours, not someone else's.

Yes to that. Fully agree with this.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Well I wasn't saying it as a religious person, it's just logic that will lead to a depressing life. But vertitas is so sensitive geez..

But the things he calls "matterness" is actually what creates life, literally love can lead to reproduction. Without "matterness" life would be pointless to live. And that's why I said it's a depressing look on life and will only lead to suicide eventually. We as humans are here to create, that is all.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

I see what your saying, but let me ask you this, what is the difference between illusion and reality?

If we can physically feel the reality around us but yet our viewpoint (you may feel the need to correct things I say based purely upon the terminology I use but please try to understand the true meaning I am conveying) is a mere illusion, then I ask what is the difference between illusion and reality? what does it matter?

Animals eat so they can live, they flee from danger so that they can live......they live so they can find mates and reproduce, but what is the point of the children they have? the same thing, they eat to live but for what? to reproduce and have more children? most animals seem to have pointless lives ( I say most because I am excluding dogs that are trained to assist fire fighters and blind people and such situations like that) so what is the point in them striving to keep living?

Humans on the other hand have something animals do not, a desire to find a purpose and a desire to understand one another. When a lion devours a zebra or feeds its young it doesn't desire to understand the personality and character of the zebra or cub, it just acts on instinct. Pointless instinct that is in place to keep it and its cub alive but why?

Humans on the other hand have always strived to find true purpose and understand one another but although we have not ever achieved these things just the simple fact that we want to and care is purpose in itself.

I know this may not entirely relate to the points you have made but it's just my addition to what you were saying.

I think I understand what you mean, I had a similar point of view, and I agree with you. However that in itself isnt enough to be consider as it Matters, to us human beings such acts of caring, striving and finding purpose means something, but the universe is constant in its view, what is inside us matters only to Us, humans, the universe doesnt care how we feel. Let me try to get some of my point accross:

You said what is reality and illusion? to answer that, we'll have to go back to the hardest possible question in the world, How did everything came to be, from nothing? religion says god, but science needs its own logic. So how did everything came to be from nothingness? that question had been haunting me most of my life until I finally came up with a Solid, and Quite sensible answer. But by the time I had and I discussed it with my physics teacher, he told me that the latest theory regarding that question is quite similar to mine. i was quite bummd naturally since I felt it was original, but none the less it kinda added to my theory, almost confirming it if anything. I will not share it here, as most claim it their own, however to make it short Nothingness and Existence are two sides of the same coin, they are not seperate, everything is nothing, nothing is everything, I know this may have you confused, but trust me if I give you the full theory you'd agree with me. The point is Reality and Illusion are basically one and the same, what makes reality matter? Only us! without us, reality as I said is merely in a constant changing process, as it was born, so may it dissappear someday, does it care? does it matter? No. We on the otherhand are quite the amazing creations, inside our heads is like a Universe in its own, a mini universe, yet a universe where things matter, where we matter, does it mean we do? the answer is Yes and No, like everything else I told you, the reality we believe matters to us, although essentially its an illusion. In the long run, and Scientifically speaking, the only thing that might truly make a difference, or matter any, is if the fundamental law of everything and nothing, reality and illusion changes, and as far as I can think, the only thing capable of even coming close to matterness, is Eternity. If the universe and Us humans were to exist and live for all Eternity, never fading, then we would basically remove the other side of this, (nothingness, and nonexistence) would no longer be a concept, there would only be something, everything, what we are and what everything is would define us indefinitely, the concept of definition would change, and we would replace our "potential" with a solid and unchangeable truth, we exist, we matter. Because reality and illusion would no longer be mixed, completely seperate, thus what exists within the realm of existence, matters, even if to the point of 0..0001, its still something.

I hope you understood at least a little of what m trying to say, cuz its always been hard to explain this part to folks who value emotions and humanity above all

 

[iNotorious]

I don't think it means nothing, i guess the other person is trying to be like ''i have slept with a girl/boy and you haven't'' thing.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Well I wasn't saying it as a religious person, it's just logic that will lead to a depressing life. But vertitas is so sensitive geez..

But the things he calls "matterness" is actually what creates life, literally love can lead to reproduction. Without "matterness" life would be pointless to live. And that's why I said it's a depressing look on life and will only lead to suicide eventually. We as humans are here to create, that is all.

Look sorry for calling you an Idiot, I dont really know you, and it was contradicting of me to say so, however I generally have my own view of looking things, it doesnt mean im depressed, im the least depressed person, ask the ones who know me here, im always joking around making laughs your assumption was completely wrong, that perspective actually make me less depressed than usual folks I simply found it offensive that you would judge my life based on 1 comment, that is prejuidice is it not?

anyway, lets just agree to disagree, cuz as far as Im concerned there is no debate, its always been me explaining things until they understand and Im not in the mood for that right now. Call me arrogant, but I have basis for everything I say and I assure you its not arrogance, I simply believe in my views, as far as I know there isnt anything wrong about that.