Is Ay underrated?

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He'll always stay in top 20.
He's not underrated just a lot of people became really really Strong in the past week
 

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Like in the page where A was going to kill Sasuke but Gaara intervened?
A would have lost his leg in the process and sasuke would be fine bec susanoo got it covered.So in the end,A loose both his hand and leg and sasuke would be fine.Dont forget,this is just incomplete susanoo.A complete susanoo shits on A
 

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If Ay starts with V2 Sasuke won't see when he stops and when he starts running again
hasn't shown to do such a thing in the manga, didn't do it against Madara. Ay won't blitz Sasuke as he can bring up Susano'o if he leaves his line of sight. As i said earlier despite him knowing about Uchiha's he watches his eyes to see if there's blood dripping this leaves him prone to genjutsu.
About Tsunade... she's the most important of the Kages... :|
Not important to the context of our discussion as its about Healthy Ms Sasuke vs Ay
And what I said is right Ay and Tsunade fought the same opponents and while Ay was completely fine Tsunade was bleeing in the ground
Not important.
 

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A cannot survive kirin.
 

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A would have lost his leg in the process and sasuke would be fine bec susanoo got it covered.So in the end,A loose both his hand and leg and sasuke would be fine.Dont forget,this is just incomplete susanoo.A complete susanoo shits on A

A would have lost his leg while Sasuke would've died. :| Happy?
 

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She fell to her knees only after removing two huge ass swords from her body, but after a couple of seconds she was completely fine, boosted Onoki's jinton to the level it was strong enough to oneshot 25 Complete Susanoo and later she had enough chakra to heal from Madara's 5 Katons.

Ay's punches aren't strong enough to force her to overuse the Byakugou, not when even Katsuyu can treat some of her wounds.
Yeah and while she was on the ground couldn't Ay speed blitz her?

Ay was holding with one arm the same things that made Tsunade get on the ground... How the hell aren't his punches enough

Because his body wasn't quick enough to handle the cut back. It was kinda like a juke

Edit: I think it would it would be better to say he couldn't handle how fast he circled him
Well maybe but then it still works for me
 

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Wait now i understood one thing.3T sasuke with hawk summon can solo A using kirin
 

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I think he's rated accordingly.
Sometimes his raw and overwhelming fighting style gets underrated (alongside his durability and genjutsu resistance), sometimes he's thought to be uncounterable and a simple blitz followed by a punch will earn him a win in half second even if he's against another kage level opponent.
His lack of versatility bugs me though, i'd say he's top 25 because of that. Top 20 would be pushing since he's essencially a one trick pony.
 
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A would have lost his leg while Sasuke would've died. :| Happy?
susanoo would have taken most of the damage and if the fight is fought outside sasuke would have soloed A with kirin.Kirin cannot be dodged
 

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Yeah and while she was on the ground couldn't Ay speed blitz her?

Ay was holding with one arm the same things that made Tsunade get on the ground... How the hell aren't his punches enough

Last time I checked Ay wasn't pierced by two Susanoo blades and he wasn't able to knock down a V3 Susanoo like Tsunade did. Him holding the Susanoo with one arm only proves Tsunade could also do it, since according to Madara, she is physically stronger than the Raikage.
 

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hasn't shown to do such a thing in the manga, didn't do it against Madara. Ay won't blitz Sasuke as he can bring up Susano'o if he leaves his line of sight. As i said earlier despite him knowing about Uchiha's he watches his eyes to see if there's blood dripping this leaves him prone to genjutsu.
Madara is different, using V2 against him is stupid cuz he was a Edo and he would just waste chakra, against a Sasuke he could start with his strongest jutsu

Then I guess Sasuke didn't notice cuz if he did he would've used it on him

A cannot survive kirin.
He can evade it and I'm not sure if he can't tank it (of course he would get hurt)


Last time I checked Ay wasn't pierced by two Susanoo bladed and he wasn't able to knock down a V3 Susanoo like Tsunade did. Him holding the Susanoo with one arm only proves Tsunade could also do it, since according to Madara, she is physically stronger than the Raikage.
Last time I checked he was fighting the same opponent as her, so her getting pierced only shows she is a worst fighter than him
 

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Sv is clearly a troll. MS Sasuke loses against A. :| It's written all over the manga, just deal with it.

really? ok show the panels were it is written. ay fought an inexperienced ribcage only sasuke. ms sasuke from danzo fight beats him, it is you who needs to deal with it.
 

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Madara is different, using V2 against him is stupid cuz he was a Edo and he would just waste chakra, against a Sasuke he could start with his strongest jutsu

Then I guess Sasuke didn't notice cuz if he did he would've used it on him


He can evade it and I'm not sure if he can't tank it (of course he would get hurt)
where is it said that A can dodge kirin?no one can dodge kirin
 

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Yeah and while she was on the ground couldn't Ay speed blitz her?

Ay was holding with one arm the same things that made Tsunade get on the ground... How the hell aren't his punches enough


Well maybe but then it still works for me

But if sasuke has a general idea of where Ay is he has a general idea of wear to put Ama. Then throw in the fact that Ama isn't going to go out and he has Enton, he may be able to take the arena away from him and limit the options of where he can run to
 

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Last time I checked he was fighting the same opponent as her, so her getting pierced only shows she is a worst fighter than him

A regeneration user 'tends to lose grace while fighting', at least according to Madara. Tsunade is a living tank with the byakugou activated, she doesn't have to dodge the attacks when she can heal from them.
 

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But if sasuke has a general idea of where Ay is he has a general idea of wear to put Ama. Then throw in the fact that Ama isn't going to go out and he has Enton, he may be able to take the arena away from him and limit the options of where he can run to
good point.Didnt think abt it
 

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A regeneration user 'tends to lose grace while fighting', at least according to Madara. Tsunade is a living tank with the byakugou activated, she doesn't have to dodge the attacks when she can heal from them.
Yeah but if she does that with Ay, the moment where she fall on the ground Ay can use that moment

But if sasuke has a general idea of where Ay is he has a general idea of wear to put Ama. Then throw in the fact that Ama isn't going to go out and he has Enton, he may be able to take the arena away from him and limit the options of where he can run to
Maybe but seeing that he didn't do that when they fought probably not


where is it said that A can dodge kirin?no one can dodge kirin
If Itachi can react to it then Ay won't have any problems evading it
 
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