Just wondering who is more wise Jiraya or Naruto .I think Naruto as he's Hokage which needs a strong and wise man
thats not true, itachi had the wisdom of the hokage at like 8 or somethingWisdom comes with age and experience. Jiraiya had both over Naruto. When Naruto gets as old as Jiraiya or Hiruzen(provided he is still alive) then maybe we can revisit this topic.
Take into consideration that Naruto is spamming Shadow clones all over the place and is gaining years of experience in hours.Wisdom comes with age and experience. Jiraiya had both over Naruto. When Naruto gets as old as Jiraiya or Hiruzen(provided he is still alive) then maybe we can revisit this topic.
Yeah that just makes him experienced in Shadow clones. Doesn't make him wise. He is wiser and more experienced then when he was younger but still isn't as wise or experienced as Jiraiya. Let's not confuse wisdom and experience with power.Take into consideration that Naruto is spamming Shadow clones all over the place and is gaining years of experience in hours.
I'm not...the original gains all the the experience a Shadow clone goes through while it exists. Naruto has clones gaining lots of experience while helping various people in different walks of life throughout the village. He gains wisdom by being able to draw from any mistakes his clones have made and not repeat them himself.Yeah that just makes him experienced in Shadow clones. Doesn't make him wise. He is wiser and more experienced then when he was younger but still isn't as wise or experienced as Jiraiya. Let's not confuse wisdom and experience with power.
sure sure. So by that logic just make a 1000 clones, help a 1000 people for 1 day and that will automatically make you wiser than someone who has lived for a 1000 years traveling the world and helping one person a year.I'm not...the original gains all the the experience a Shadow clone goes through while it exists. Naruto has clones gaining lots of experience while helping various people in different walks of life throughout the village. He gains wisdom by being able to draw from any mistakes his clones have made and not repeat them himself.
with shadow clone cheat and interacting with so many people, he can gain experience, and thus wisdom faster than a normal person.
Though, wisdom depends on the person themselves...some people never learn from their mistakes and continue to make the same ones.
No, you are over simplifying it.sure sure. So by that logic just make a 1000 clones, help a 1000 people for 1 day and that will automatically make you wiser than someone who has lived for a 1000 years traveling the world and helping one person a year.
It's not the same thing. Naruto gained knowledge that way. Wisdom comes with time not just lessons. You need time to apply what you've learned and pass it down to others. To see how it impacts others negatively and positively. To watch it both decay and blossom.
That's true wisdom. Something that only happens with time. A billion clones won't give him that. He needs time.
@ bold kakashi admitted inferiority to base narutoA Hokage doesn't need to be anything.
Natural Intelligence? Nope. Naruto
Natural Power? Nope. Kakashi.
Natural Popularity? Nope. Tsunade and Tobirama.
Life Experience? Nope. Hiruzen.
OT: Jiraiya is infinitely wiser than Naruto at the moment.