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the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings where war crimes huge ones btw the americans did it to save theirown asses
 

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So Islamic fundamentalism with suicide bombers are peaceful? Whole generations are thought to kill in the name of Islam and it is the highest honour for them. I know Islam is peaceful in general but every religion has radicalists because of the indoctrination. If you dont know the difference between a muslim with a bomb strapped to his chest and a peace loving true muslim than you havent done your reaserch as well as you think.

There should be a fuss about Iran having a nuke because their regime is much more unstable than China or Russia and certainly a lot less stable than the EU nuclear powers and the US and they might not be afraid to sell to the highest bidder. Europe, USA, China, India, Russia, ... have it as an aftermath of the 2nd ww and the cold war. And they do have the moral restraint to use it which some in the middle east dont have, especially when it comes to the west. So yes the west is very worried about an Iranian nuke.

You are still fixed on your mindless and hateful assumption bout all muslims being extremist and radical. This is naivety as well as stupidity. :sy: You just listen to the media and the false accusations it spreads rather than directly researching into something to gain more insight from it. You have obviously not been watching naruto attentively enough. Do you not understand bout sacrifice and honourable death? Majority religions believe in making sacrifices, Islam is one of them. Oh believe me, I understand between such religions much more better than you by the looks of it.

This is another one of your false allegations, just because its a muslim country, you would like to drag it into a war. Why is it that the West are worried about muslim countries like Iran in the first place? Is this a guilty impression that they're giving? Could it be that they were the 'cause for all of this conflict on this so-called 'War on Terror?'

We know that the other countries wont use it because they have had it for decades and havent used it and are themselves worried about nukes in other countries

This no where near justifies your claim bout Iran misusing the nuclear weapon in their possession. The period of how long a country has had a nuclear weapon in their possession definately does not mean that it's become accustomed to it and so therefore will not misuse it. :flaw: Misusing anything comes from the ideology of a person or people not from experience. :sy: It's not like as if Iran is not worried about Israel or the US dropping a nuclear bomb first. Your logic is ludicrous U_U
 

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You are still fixed on your mindless and hateful assumption bout all muslims being extremist and radical. This is naivety as well as stupidity. :sy: You just listen to the media and the false accusations it spreads rather than directly researching into something to gain more insight from it. You have obviously not been watching naruto attentively enough. Do you not understand bout sacrifice and honourable death? Majority religions believe in making sacrifices, Islam is one of them. Oh believe me, I understand between such religions much more better than you by the looks of it.

This is another one of your false allegations, just because its a muslim country, you would like to drag it into a war. Why is it that the West are worried about muslim countries like Iran in the first place? Is this a guilty impression that they're giving? Could it be that they were the 'cause for all of this conflict on this so-called 'War on Terror?'



This no where near justifies your claim bout Iran misusing the nuclear weapon in their possession. The period of how long a country has had a nuclear weapon in their possession definately does not mean that it's become accustomed to it and so therefore will not misuse it. :flaw: Misusing anything comes from the ideology of a person or people not from experience. :sy: It's not like as if Iran is not worried about Israel or the US dropping a nuclear bomb first. Your logic is ludicrous U_U

When exactly did I say that all muslims are extremists? Now that is stupidity. The largest Islamic country isn't even in the Middle East. Do you know which country that is?

The media I agree is bias but there are global media all around the world (from America, from Europea, from Middle East, ...) I watch them, do you? Dont tell me they lie all the time. Normally I am the guy that attacks the media for having too much power but in a conversation with you, who think they are completely wrong, I need to say this: if a media house doesnt report accurately and relatively unbias they lose credibility and ultimately viewership, the global media have viewers all over the world so they cant afford to go extremely onto one side because they would risk losing a huge amount of viewers.

You say my comments border on stupidity? Did you just COMPARE A INTERNATIONAL CRISIS INVOLVING A POSSIBLE NUCLEAR WEAPON TO WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A CHILDRENS MANGA? Ironic!

Im a liberal European do you really think I would like to start a war anywhere? haha. I dont care what religion any country is but i do care about the fact that they use religious doctrines to make laws, its irrational.

Yes there is MUCH basis for not trusting it with a nuke, if you dont get that if you know the facts than your logic is ludicrous. Iran is a highly unstable regime in the most unstable region in the world. Many of them dont share the fear of the bomb most of the world has. And I do not support any country having nukes, its horrible that we still have them. But simply reducing the nuke count to zero isnt as simple as you make it sound.

But then again someone who uses Naruto (a Manga) to argue a serious international issue cant be taken too seriously.
 
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When exactly did I say that all muslims are extremists? Now that is stupidity. The largest Islamic country isn't even in the Middle East. Do you know which country that is?

The media I agree is bias but there are global media all around the world (from America, from Europea, from Middle East, ...) I watch them, do you? Dont tell me they lie all the time. Normally I am the guy that attacks the media for having too much power but in a conversation with you, who think they are completely wrong, I need to say this: if a media house doesnt report accurately and relatively unbias they lose credibility and ultimately viewership, the global media have viewers all over the world so they cant afford to go extremely onto one side because they would risk losing a huge amount of viewers.

You say my comments border on stupidity? Did you just COMPARE A INTERNATIONAL CRISIS INVOLVING A POSSIBLE NUCLEAR WEAPON TO WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY A CHILDRENS MANGA? Ironic!

Im a liberal European do you really think I would like to start a war anywhere? haha. I dont care what religion any country is but i do care about the fact that they use religious doctrines to make laws, its irrational.

Yes there is MUCH basis for not trusting it with a nuke, if you dont get that if you know the facts than your logic is ludicrous. Iran is a highly unstable regime in the most unstable region in the world. Many of them dont share the fear of the bomb most of the world has. And I do not support any country having nukes, its horrible that we still have them. But simply reducing the nuke count to zero isnt as simple as you make it sound.

But then again someone who uses Naruto (a Manga) to argue a serious international issue cant be taken too seriously.

wow impressive :D
 

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So Islamic fundamentalism with suicide bombers are peaceful? Whole generations are thought to kill in the name of Islam and it is the highest honour for them.

This clearly suggests your calling every muslim an extremist and a radical that loves to kill people in the name of his/her religion. Then you BS bout not saying it?? :sy:

The largest Islamic country isn't even in the Middle East. Do you know which country this is?

Indonesia, but I don't see why your worried bout that when no where in the Islamic scriptures does it state that the largest muslim country has to be restricted to only being in the Middle East?? :flaw:

The media I agree is bias but there are global media all around the world (from America, from Europea, from Middle East, ...) I watch them, do you? Dont tell me they lie all the time. Normally I am the guy that attacks the media for having too much power but in a conversation with you, who think they are completely wrong, I need to say this: if a media house doesnt report accurately and relatively unbias they lose credibility and ultimately viewership, the global media have viewers all over the world so they cant afford to go extremely onto one side because they would risk losing a huge amount of viewers.

I've never said that the media is completely wrong however majority of it's content is deception and encourages evil in some way. Don't tell me you haven't heard of Illuminati? You may have heard of it but you probably don't believe it to be true. One of their main objective is to manipulate peoples minds. The Media has for some time been spreading BS and propaganda and still is. Most of it is directed towards the muslims and the Arab world. One of the first known incidents involving the muslims was the Gulf War that was basicly and an operation set to invade Iraq and to take the oil and obviously as a result, many civillian lives were lost. The US were the ones to start it off. Along that there was the crisis in Palestine that still continues today. Next there is the Syrian uprising and pretty soon it could be Iran. A fact is that there is rarely anything good that the Media spreads bout the muslims. They advertise various technology and products that lead to evil outcomes. For example they advertise: alcohol that eventually gets people drunk and damages liver, smoking that gives mood swings and causes many lung diseases as well as other things.

Im a liberal European do you really think I would like to start a war anywhere? haha. I dont care what religion any country is but i do care about the fact that they use religious doctrines to make laws, its irrational.

Haha, your ridiculous. It doesn't matter what people believe in and what they do in their countries. It's up to them 'cause it's there countries not yours. Your a liberal which means you would like to get rid of traditional values and instead adopt new behaviour and opinions. When in reality, if it wasn't for these traditional values, you wouldn't be where you are right now, hehe. :sy:

Yes there is MUCH basis for not trusting it with a nuke, if you dont get that if you know the facts than your logic is ludicrous. Iran is a highly unstable regime in the most unstable region in the world. Many of them dont share the fear of the bomb most of the world has. And I do not support any country having nukes, its horrible that we still have them. But simply reducing the nuke count to zero isnt as simple as you make it sound.

You moan alot bout other countries having nukes don't you. Well I got one thing to say, sort your own country out before thinking about solving another country's issues, moron. :flaw: It doesn't matter what you may think, not all Iranians are stupid. You think that they wouldn't know if they're own country was an unstable regime and they would just create a nuke jeopardizing their own lives along with their country?? :sy: And the whole world isn't against what Iran's doing, it's just the US and Europe 'cause they like to pick on and play around with the muslims. Now they're shitting themselves 'cause a muslim country have produced something which gave the US and Europe the power to make the world feel intimidated and bow down to them. U_U

But then again someone who uses Naruto (a Manga) to argue a serious international issue cant be taken too seriously.

If you don't feel as though Naruto has taught you anything then there is no reason for why you should watch it. Do you even watch it or are you just some kinda troll on NB? :cool:
 

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This clearly suggests your calling every muslim an extremist and a radical that loves to kill people in the name of his/her religion. Then you BS bout not saying it?? :sy:

no entire generations can mean a some generation of young muslims pushed into indoctrination and not every child, a generation is a much broader meaning than everyone of the same age



Indonesia, but I don't see why your worried bout that when no where in the Islamic scriptures does it state that the largest muslim country has to be restricted to only being in the Middle East?? :flaw:

I have no idea what you mean its not stated in the scriptures, I wouldnt care even if it did say anything about it and I know that it doesnt need to be in the middle east lol. You said that I ar prejudice against muslims yet I have many muslim friends, ever hear of Turks in Germany? So I mentioned Indonesia because you basically said that I think that all muslims live in ME and are extremists, I by no means believe that, I know there are extremists everywhere however Irans regime supports that extremism so yea the world has a cause to worry


I've never said that the media is completely wrong however majority of it's content is deception and encourages evil in some way. Don't tell me you haven't heard of Illuminati? You may have heard of it but you probably don't believe it to be true. One of their main objective is to manipulate peoples minds. The Media has for some time been spreading BS and propaganda and still is. Most of it is directed towards the muslims and the Arab world. One of the first known incidents involving the muslims was the Gulf War that was basicly and an operation set to invade Iraq and to take the oil and obviously as a result, many civillian lives were lost. The US were the ones to start it off. Along that there was the crisis in Palestine that still continues today. Next there is the Syrian uprising and pretty soon it could be Iran. A fact is that there is rarely anything good that the Media spreads bout the muslims. They advertise various technology and products that lead to evil outcomes. For example they advertise: alcohol that eventually gets people drunk and damages liver, smoking that gives mood swings and causes many lung diseases as well as other things.

Its not deception and it doesnt encourage evil haha its funny that you think that, just like every other market the media market is extremely competitive and they cant afford to be idiots if they want to be competitive, just look at Fox News they are the laughing stock, and Illuminati ... LOL noone serious believes in that :)

yes they use their influence sometimes but not to an extent where they could convince half of the world of something, they just spin some stories a little differently, thats why I also read other media, Al Jazeera id from the ME for example and THAN form my own opinion

you think that the global media indoctrination is even comparable to the indoctrination extremists go through? they are teached to kill, to hate the west, even to kill themselves and they believe its honourable and they will be rewarded after that ... now thats propaganda ...

you speak as if the crisis in the ME was entirely americas fault, its much more complicated than that
haha yes they advertise alcohol and cigarettes but there are much worse advertisements out there


Haha, your ridiculous. It doesn't matter what people believe in and what they do in their countries. It's up to them 'cause it's there countries not yours. Your a liberal which means you would like to get rid of traditional values and instead adopt new behaviour and opinions. When in reality, if it wasn't for these traditional values, you wouldn't be where you are right now, hehe. :sy:

yes its their countries but there are times when they threaten other countries, when the regime exercises terror over its citizens, ... so even if its not their country is it a sin to stop a murderous dictator? (a general question, no particular person in mind) dont know about you but if I lived under Hitler I would be happy if someone else came and kicked his ass

I dont want to get rid of all the values I know what my culture is based on but I do want equal rights for everyone and to end the idiotic values that prohibit gay rights, woman rights, minority rights, support racism, ...

Liberals ended slavery. Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals let you pray to whatever you want without fear of prosecution. And what did conservatives do? They OPPOSED every single one of those rights.

my culture isnt based on the values im trying to change its based on greek philosophy, roman law, greek and later christian morality, its based on ceturies of law building, on movements that ensured rights for those who had none, ... IT IS NOT based on a value of a traditional family that says gays shouldnt have the equal right.


You moan alot bout other countries having nukes don't you. Well I got one thing to say, sort your own country out before thinking about solving another country's issues, moron. :flaw: It doesn't matter what you may think, not all Iranians are stupid. You think that they wouldn't know if they're own country was an unstable regime and they would just create a nuke jeopardizing their own lives along with their country?? :sy: And the whole world isn't against what Iran's doing, it's just the US and Europe 'cause they like to pick on and play around with the muslims. Now they're shitting themselves 'cause a muslim country have produced something which gave the US and Europe the power to make the world feel intimidated and bow down to them. U_U

moron Germany doesnt have Nukes and has far less problems than Iran. No I dont think Iranians are stupid and you suggesting I do makes me inclined to believe you might be an idiot. North Korea knows its regime is what it is, many still support it ant he rest are threatened to keep their opinions to themselves, look at Syria, every normal country head of state would step down before the situation got anywhere near to what is happening in Syria, yet who is one of Syrias biggest supporters? Oh yea thats right IRAN! But who cares right, only 100 - 200 ppl a day die, wemen are raped and ppl torchered ... well I CARE

Haha the west wont let Iran to develop a nuclear weapon and when it will come to it many nuclear powers will step in as well. One bomb in the region and in a highly unstable regime to top it might cause many other countries to start on nuclear programmes, russia, china, india, ... wont like that


If you don't feel as though Naruto has taught you anything then there is no reason for why you should watch it. Do you even watch it or are you just some kinda troll on NB? :cool:

o yes yes let me go rewatch House and than I'll go perform a brain surgery ... idiot do you really think one of the most pressing world crisis involving Iran, US, Israel and potentially other nuclear powers (UK, France, India, Russia, China, ...) as well as the ME region as a whole can be discussed through a MANGA ... HAHAHA I really hope you dont go into politics

I like to read Naruto, I like OP even more, I like DBZ but to use them in arguments in such serious political issues is just moronic
 
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