Introducing the Technique Houses
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Hey hey im in your side take it easy >_>.
1.Not much people actually but like pervy for example He made Dragon Slayer Magic CJ for his natsu bio a few months back.Im not saying all peope i said some.
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1.Not much people actually but like pervy for example He made Dragon Slayer Magic CJ for his natsu bio a few months back.Im not saying all peope i said some.
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I m against this. The main issue is that Cjs were abused. The sharing lead to ridiculous situations like the back burn issue. Although its not even the worst of all.
Had everyone accepted the better option of the 70 total Cjs limit and this wouldn't be an issue. However some changes were made to allow more freedom and more Cjs for members. Summoning contracts now have their own technique cap as well as Cfs
You can have 10 x2 Cfs techniques, 35 Cjs, 10x2 summons. I mean you have a higher cap than ever..
The srank restriction makes sense. No one sees a great advantage on becoming a Sensei a part from some minor status alterations. Do, becoming a Sensei must add some perks. Is one is quite simple and makes sense. Become a Sensei and contribute. And gain perks in the processes.
The current problem with Cjs and it's creation isn't linked to this but to lack of imagination and in 90% of the times lack of understanding the rp.. Tons of useless techniques have been submitted. Tons of ridiculous ones. And the similar ones are generally rips or simply so basic techniques that it should be obvious it's done before.. However trading Cjs is only good for Cjs whores. Ok, imagine you have 300 techniques... Why? Our jutsu list has about 450 give or take.. Why do you need 700 techniques if you end up spamming nagashi or shadowless flight or clones or Amaterasu?
Cjs should be something very unique to you, something that makes you different from all other members in the rp. Sharing with a friend is something, sharing with 30 people means the custom isn't that worth for you so why would you submit it in the first place?
Still I think people don't understand the basis behind custom submissions. Those who were bad at submitting them found trading as a good exploit to hide their inability to do good customs and found that trading granted them the Cjs.
I feel this would be against the principle and the guideline that was decided for the overal custom techniques in NB. Its just a way to get acess to more techniques nd more power for those who don't have the ability to submit techniques that are approvable.
Sorry zero but in this one I'm against. At least in the way that it's written. However, there a way to make sometg like this happen but not lik you want.
Yu can form a large enough social group, create and make it active and submit it for official approval as a group for the rp. If that is done you can submit techniques for that custom group to use. It's bound by the same limitations of cc jutsu. It's in the cc jutsu rules if I'm not mistaken. However, things already created can't be traded freely and there is a max cap for those techniques.
Btw sorry for the spelling...iPad and me aren't good typing friends.
Had everyone accepted the better option of the 70 total Cjs limit and this wouldn't be an issue. However some changes were made to allow more freedom and more Cjs for members. Summoning contracts now have their own technique cap as well as Cfs
You can have 10 x2 Cfs techniques, 35 Cjs, 10x2 summons. I mean you have a higher cap than ever..
The srank restriction makes sense. No one sees a great advantage on becoming a Sensei a part from some minor status alterations. Do, becoming a Sensei must add some perks. Is one is quite simple and makes sense. Become a Sensei and contribute. And gain perks in the processes.
The current problem with Cjs and it's creation isn't linked to this but to lack of imagination and in 90% of the times lack of understanding the rp.. Tons of useless techniques have been submitted. Tons of ridiculous ones. And the similar ones are generally rips or simply so basic techniques that it should be obvious it's done before.. However trading Cjs is only good for Cjs whores. Ok, imagine you have 300 techniques... Why? Our jutsu list has about 450 give or take.. Why do you need 700 techniques if you end up spamming nagashi or shadowless flight or clones or Amaterasu?
Cjs should be something very unique to you, something that makes you different from all other members in the rp. Sharing with a friend is something, sharing with 30 people means the custom isn't that worth for you so why would you submit it in the first place?
Still I think people don't understand the basis behind custom submissions. Those who were bad at submitting them found trading as a good exploit to hide their inability to do good customs and found that trading granted them the Cjs.
I feel this would be against the principle and the guideline that was decided for the overal custom techniques in NB. Its just a way to get acess to more techniques nd more power for those who don't have the ability to submit techniques that are approvable.
Sorry zero but in this one I'm against. At least in the way that it's written. However, there a way to make sometg like this happen but not lik you want.
Yu can form a large enough social group, create and make it active and submit it for official approval as a group for the rp. If that is done you can submit techniques for that custom group to use. It's bound by the same limitations of cc jutsu. It's in the cc jutsu rules if I'm not mistaken. However, things already created can't be traded freely and there is a max cap for those techniques.
Btw sorry for the spelling...iPad and me aren't good typing friends.
And that's wrong of them? I personally very rarely teach my CJs, and that makes me stingy? I think not. Generally speaking, I rarely use my CJs myself, so why should I go around and teach them to people with the risk of them abusing and overusing the techniques? Especially when I get asked by people who I've never even spoken to before. A person wanting to keep a CJ that they created to themselves isn't in the wrong, they have every right to keep their abilities to themselves. Even more so when you consider that the purpose of CJs is to make the RP more unique for each person. If someone wants to share a CJ with you, then they're being kind and doing you a favor, but if they don't want to just give you one for free, then how can you say that they're in the wrong for that? They have every right to keep what is theirs.
I haven't read the suggestion yet, will do so later, just felt the need to say that after seeing this and your other post.
I actually asked around to find out what the purpose of the CJ limitation rule was .-.
Are you telling me, and please tell me that I'm wrong, that you've created a rule solely to please the 1 percent?
What?
Disregarding any intention behind the rule, it was definitely published/implemented at a wrong time. Now, for example, I don't think I'd be strongly against the '70 limit' rule. You know why? Because summonings have been seperated from the general count, CFS techniques have been separated, CE techniques have been separated, etcetera.
The only thing missing is a seperate count for KG techniques and special abilities and I'd actually cheer. I'm serious, I'd cheer.
The Technique Houses merely represent an attempt at giving newer role-players a chance at testing their element out with new and exciting techniques. Not only that, but the ability for everyone to make a bio and be rewarded for sticking with it.
And the purpose of Custom techniques, to me, is not to create something unique for yourself, it's the ability to take an idea and implement it into the role-play. You don't implement something if it stays up ones own butt.
EDIT: Again, I think you should disregard anything OOC I've written.
Are you telling me, and please tell me that I'm wrong, that you've created a rule solely to please the 1 percent?
What?
Disregarding any intention behind the rule, it was definitely published/implemented at a wrong time. Now, for example, I don't think I'd be strongly against the '70 limit' rule. You know why? Because summonings have been seperated from the general count, CFS techniques have been separated, CE techniques have been separated, etcetera.
The only thing missing is a seperate count for KG techniques and special abilities and I'd actually cheer. I'm serious, I'd cheer.
The Technique Houses merely represent an attempt at giving newer role-players a chance at testing their element out with new and exciting techniques. Not only that, but the ability for everyone to make a bio and be rewarded for sticking with it.
And the purpose of Custom techniques, to me, is not to create something unique for yourself, it's the ability to take an idea and implement it into the role-play. You don't implement something if it stays up ones own butt.
EDIT: Again, I think you should disregard anything OOC I've written.
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Did i say it was wrong? Did i say you didn´t have the right to refuse people? No.
What i did say is that if people come to you with the intention to learn a cj that they liked, doesn´t necesarily meaning that they´re greedy but more that it suits their style and you give them a simple no and dont even want to trade then that makes you stingy, sorry but thats how it is.
Yes customs are there to make the person unique but someone may have a custom that i like very much and would suit me very good thus completing more of my customs and contributing to my overall uniqueness in the rp aswell then i would very much want to learn it.
Besides, are you implying that teaching only a couple of techniques defines your uniqueness? In that case then you can´t really call yourself unique and also, you should stop viewing people as greedy pigs geez, they just want cj to have fun with and what fun is it for you to possess cj when you barely use it anyway? What are you saving it for? They´re not necessarily there to be seen as trophies you know.
Again, i said most people in this rp are stingy which is true and i also said not all people in this rp are stingy, it doesn´t have to apply to you since you don´t even use your own cj, also part of this reply is for other people too, don´t get offended so easily.
However you assume that the ideas I created and got approved myself belong to the rp and it's community when in fact they are mine. Same as with yours. And that by not sharing them I'm being selfish and clingy. It's a ridiculous notion.
You don't understand why the Cjs were limited? Really? Or why proof is required in your Cjs thread? Etc etc etc.
People see the Cjs as power, not as they are intended to be. It's as it was and will ever be. Ok, we all want power. But Cjs should be something that gives you an unique flare, touch, edge and that complements your unique fighting style. It's something that makes you different from others. Some trading is healthy as it showcases the social part of our community and the friendships that are born in it. However, it's not something to be abused and or ridiculed by allowing everyone to use your customs. Are you friends with everyone?
Also the separate limits to kg won't happen it doesnt make sense. Not even a bit. We give you a finger and suddenly everyone wants the whole arm and a leg. Now you suddenly want separate caps for every thing? Not going to happen. The Cjs issue is fine as it currently is and if it's to be fiddled with some more.... Well the petition had its results right? You all know what happened. Don't fiddle with what is right.
You don't understand why the Cjs were limited? Really? Or why proof is required in your Cjs thread? Etc etc etc.
People see the Cjs as power, not as they are intended to be. It's as it was and will ever be. Ok, we all want power. But Cjs should be something that gives you an unique flare, touch, edge and that complements your unique fighting style. It's something that makes you different from others. Some trading is healthy as it showcases the social part of our community and the friendships that are born in it. However, it's not something to be abused and or ridiculed by allowing everyone to use your customs. Are you friends with everyone?
Also the separate limits to kg won't happen it doesnt make sense. Not even a bit. We give you a finger and suddenly everyone wants the whole arm and a leg. Now you suddenly want separate caps for every thing? Not going to happen. The Cjs issue is fine as it currently is and if it's to be fiddled with some more.... Well the petition had its results right? You all know what happened. Don't fiddle with what is right.
If the members of the rp are stingy and greedy, then you covet what is not yours... What does that make you? You infer that a custom I made belongs to the community and that somehow you have rights to it and that negating such rights makes me selfish when in reality is very different.
I'm not offended at all, I'm simply saying that it's ridiculous to call someone stingy for not wanting to give out CJs if they don't see any reason to. Is it nice of them to do so? Sure. But does it make them a mean, stingy person if they don't? I don't agree that it is. If I'm not interested in any CJ that you have to offer, or if you're not offering a CJ to trade at all, then it's not stingy of me to refuse. It's simply wanting to remain unique, which is the purpose of the various types of customs. I've gotten asked, as I'm sure many other RPers have, to trade powerful CJs and teach custom elements in return for simple techniques that really have little use to me. And I'm pretty sure that multiple people having the same technique makes it lose its uniqueness.
And since when did I view anyone as a "greedy pig?"
And contrary to what you're saying, the truth is that most RPers are unique as a result of customs. Not just custom jutsu but fighting styles, elements, etc. I mean, think of it this way, take away everyone's customs and what other form of uniqueness is there in our RP? There really is none. Even special bios aren't really unique per say. As far as hoarding my CJs and rarely using them, my reasons for doing that aren't because they're trophies, it's simply because I don't find many times where I feel as though I need to use them (not all, just most of the more powerful ones). As a result, when I do use them it gives more to the battle. But there's no reason to explain it really, because it goes back to what I said before. Everyone has a choice to give out their CJs, and you shouldn't judge the person's character simply because they don't want to.
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No, i don´t assume anything, the techniques you make belong to you and you´re the original maker, does teaching your customs make you lose rights to them? No.
Now people do want to get op customs but there is also this thing called common sense, you don´t give your most precious cj to someone and no one is asking you of all your customs, at best you´d find yourself sharing 3 to 4 techniques, does that ruin your unque flare, touch, edge or whatever you want to call it?
If it does then that´s too bad but i´m sure it wouldn´t hurt to share and if you trade then you can get something cool in return, oh i get it...you don´t want to trade because that would also ruin your unique flare.
I don´t know man, that´s you and your right, it does show the friendships you´ve gathered over the years.
Also, do you know why people mostly newbies go around asking for peoples customs? It´s because if they start getting creative and start doing techniques then they´re afraid that they´ll soon find themselves having filled the 35 cj limit that you´re supposed to create yourself, there might be a technique that you regret later and can´t go back on but at the same time they also want customs to use so they turn to other people, i know that seem very greedy at first but you´ll see what i´m talking about once i start submitting customs.
The people they turn don´t let them of course and when they become full fledged rper´s they in turn do the same thus contributing to an overall stingy rp where every man for himself.
With the newbie situation i´m mostly refering to myself but there are people in my situation.
Were you like this back in the day, i don´t know much about the old days but didn´t you give and receive customs?
You say i´m not friends with everyone but something like sharing a custom can earn me a friend on here you know.
Is it so wrong to covet what is not yours? It depends on how you look at it.
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Rule is set in place.
Many calls for the rule to be removed. REMOVED. REMOVED.
Rule is remade and the community is blamed beforehand for whatever might be wrong with it because they asked for it.
Logic...
And yes, I assume they belong to the role-play O_O It's the same reason I think old customs should be re-evaluated. Nobody but you will benefit from your invention if you don't share it.
Seriously? That comment is absolutely ridiculous, no offence intended.
What if people want to be unique and not teach any of their customs? They are on their right. Now by your attitude, it looks like you're judging people and almost saying it's a must to share a few customs.
If that person was the one who submitted that certain technique first, what do you want to do about it? It's his. Not yours. Just because someone started RP'ing late and somehow think jutsu Y submitted by the member X suits their fighting style, member X isn't obligated to share a few of his customs just because you want to and did not submit it in time. They are on their own right to say NO to you or to anyone else and to keep the customs for themselves.
With that attitude, I would say you haven't met life yet. Again, no offence intended. Just because you want things, people must share, because it doesn't hurt them to share things. What about it? It's their things, not yours. Yeah, I may sound selfish, but we're not talking about solidarity or things people need. People simply want them because they want. And since when is that a valid argument for other people to give you what is theirs by right?
At the end of the day you do what you want, no one is forcing you to do anything but you can't say you aren't being selfish and i've already said this in the other post, also you don't seem to have understood my post yet, i'm not arguing about your rights to customs you made, not at all.
Also we're talking about roleplay in a forum, so don't change the subject to real life, especially when you don't know me or what i've met in real life.
Yeah, that's about it, i don't think there are many valid reasons to refuse someone but in the end it's up to the person with the custom, their choice...now i've stated my arguments and i'm done not to mention tired, will sleep now, good night.