Introducing the IC Area

Should the IC Area become a part of the role-play?


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@ Bolded: They'll be able to be all those things, use all those techniques, etcetera. They'll just be wearing a skin. Essentially they'll have the same bio, just with a different appearance and another story.

@ Dark red: If one cannot write a small story, then one cannot role-play. Simple as that. .
Ooooh, I think I see now. Basically, this skin will be like a custom bio, but we'll be able to use the abilities and jutsu of our two bios that we would we use in Battle Arena.

Like, if I make a skin called Jericho, in the Ninja World, I'd be Jericho by default, but I could use Gaara's sand tech through him, correct?
 

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Ooooh, I think I see now. Basically, this skin will be like a custom bio, but we'll be able to use the abilities and jutsu of our two bios that we would we use in Battle Arena.

Like, if I make a skin called Jericho, in the Ninja World, I'd be Jericho by default, but I could use Gaara's sand tech through him, correct?
Correct. You'd basically be Gaara, with all the restrictions and rules that apply to him. The only difference would be that your Jericho character would look different, have a different personality, etcetera.
Same abilities and jutsus, just another skin.
 

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Meh, honestly, if I went through a Nagato test and passed it and then tried to use it in the IC area and had to do another tournament or else I had to drop it, I'd call BS. Like, if you pass the test, then you earned the bio, doesn't make sense to force them to take another test to use it.

The simple and most obvious solution to problems 1, 2, and 4 is if we can convince mods to allow people to have techniques like that on custom biographies provided that you still pass the same exact test. To be honest, if that isn't allowed, then this RP would kind of go down the drain. No Jinchuuriki, no one with the Sasuke, Kakashi or Itachi Mangekyou stuff, no one with Space-time techniques, no one with Dust, Lava (except Bishamon I suppose), or a lot of other interesting abilities. There really wouldn't be much interest at all without stuff like that. If cannon techinques allowed on custom bios (again, provided that you pass that character's test) were allowed then it would no longer be unfair to say that everyone who participates must make a custom biography.

As for the history shops, why would you do that? The entire purpose of this RP is to make a collective NB history. If you don't want to make a story, then you have no place in this style of RP to begin with.
Hmm, I have to agree, this is much better than what I said, tbh.
Correct. You'd basically be Gaara, with all the restrictions and rules that apply to him. The only difference would be that your Jericho character would look different, have a different personality, etcetera.
Same abilities and jutsus, just another skin.
Now that I get it, I like the idea even more.
 

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I really like this idea and I think it should be added to our roleplay system.

Well, I have simple solutions for both.
First, regarding the biography problem, (which I think is a major one, even with Custom Biographies) I propose the creation of a third biography. DON'T LYNCH ME I'M NOT DONE!
Now, I'm not out to make Cali's head blow up, so just chill.
This third biography will NOT include any abilities, techniques, etcetera. Your third biography will be your Ninja World biography, which represents you in the role-play. The third biography focuses on your background-story, your family relations, etcetera. The third biography describes who your imaginary Shinobi is and what he's doing in the Ninja World. Why is here in Amegakure? Why's he missing his left arm? Etcetera.
These biographies will basically be 'skins'. Whenever you get into a fight, you simply link your opponent to one of your two other biographies. Your third biography then 'becomes' this biography for the duration of the fight, though he still retains his appearance.
No need for checkings at all - the third biography is for yourself and those you wish to role-play with.
Very good idea indeed. It'd be awesome to rp in a section where everyone has a "different" biography.
 

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Not overly against this. It reminds me of something you tried to implement in Iwa. It was fun for awhile but then the people who werent interested in it made it go down. Withmore people interested it is sure to last longer.

And this would give me a reason to use Loki again, as I'm taking my Mei test...speaking of, I must go talk to Kirabi............
 

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Not overly against this. It reminds me of something you tried to implement in Iwa. It was fun for awhile but then the people who werent interested in it made it go down. Withmore people interested it is sure to last longer.

And this would give me a reason to use Loki again, as I'm taking my Mei test...speaking of, I must go talk to Kirabi............
Aye, the only difference is that this'll be on a much wider scale and there will be more possibilities ^^
 

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I am going to be honest with you man this idea is a great one and i applaud you for this suggestion but to say the truth man through out my stay on naruto base i mean through out i have seen great ideas of this caliber and even greater got shunned down and gone down the drain after the time i fear this is the same fate this idea and suggestion may suffer, many individuals would hate this idea for reasons such as it being to much of a work for the moderator and administrator other may not like it because they are afraid of change and what the future would be i am sorry man but this is my opinion i don't think this idea would work not because of its not good but because of the reason i said above what you are talking about is changing the whole ninja world which has been in naruto base for years now into what you are suggesting this may not take hours ,days or even months that is all up to how serious the work is being looked at i wish you all the best in this your project and other future endeavour in this site that would benefit naruto base community but as for this i don't think it would work.If some way it is approved and implemented would this ninja role play be compulsory? Can i still decide to use the old ninja world system and what other ideas do you have for this project which you have suggested, i suggest you make a poll and that would allow other users to vote.Thank you and God Bless.
 

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I am going to be honest with you man this idea is a great one and i applaud you for this suggestion but to say the truth man through out my stay on naruto base i mean through out i have seen great ideas of this caliber and even greater got shunned down and gone down the drain after the time i fear this is the same fate this idea and suggestion may suffer, many individuals would hate this idea for reasons such as it being to much of a work for the moderator and administrator other may not like it because they are afraid of change and what the future would be i am sorry man but this is my opinion i don't think this idea would work not because of its not good but because of the reason i said above what you are talking about is changing the whole ninja world which has been in naruto base for years now into what you are suggesting this may not take hours ,days or even months that is all up to how serious the work is being looked at i wish you all the best in this your project and other future endeavour in this site that would benefit naruto base community but as for this i don't think it would work.If some way it is approved and implemented would this ninja role play be compulsory? Can i still decide to use the old ninja world system and what other ideas do you have for this project which you have suggested, i suggest you make a poll and that would allow other users to vote.Thank you and God Bless.
I'll be completely frank with you.
I've role-played for some years and what drives a role-play is the community. Not just online, but in any role-play. If the GM doesn't improve or change his scenario when the players move in another direction, then it's called an inflexible GM. If the role-play here stays the way it is because a few inactive seniors will be butthurt over it, then it's called a biased and, well, shitty role-play. If the Plot-designers refuse to tweak their story to fit the players, then they're bad at what they do.
If the community here supports this idea and it's subsequently shot down by the Moderators because they don't have time for it/can't be bothered then they shouldn't occupy a staff position. It's that simple.
If a role-play lacks the manpower, they hire more manpower. Has it ever occured to you that you don't have to be a Moderator to write lore? To improve the spelling and grammar on the Cannon Jutsu list? To help?
All that's keeping most of you from actively supporting and helping is the fact that you won't be rewarded with a Moderator position.
I'll be honest; people like you disappoint me greatly. Especially if they actually support the idea themselves.

If you people WANT to role-play, then this is a great chance to do so. IF you WANT to! If you sit on your asses and give this thread a look and a subsequent shrug, can you guess what'll happen? I can; nothing.

Do you want custom lore? I'll write it. I'm sure there are some proper and dedicated members who'd be more than happy to help without being patted on the head.
You want new rules? I'll write them. I'll design and tweak them as the community pleases. I'm sure there are some people who aren't named Zenryoku who'd be so kind as to help without being granted a Moderator postition.
Damnit, NB, I love the shit out of you, but you're like dogs: you won't do anything unless you're given treats.

All this requires is your dedication. 'Meh' isn't gonna cut it.
 

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I'll be completely frank with you.
I've role-played for some years and what drives a role-play is the community. Not just online, but in any role-play. If the GM doesn't improve or change his scenario when the players move in another direction, then it's called an inflexible GM. If the role-play here stays the way it is because a few inactive seniors will be butthurt over it, then it's called a biased and, well, shitty role-play. If the Plot-designers refuse to tweak their story to fit the players, then they're bad at what they do.
If the community here supports this idea and it's subsequently shot down by the Moderators because they don't have time for it/can't be bothered then they shouldn't occupy a staff position. It's that simple.
If a role-play lacks the manpower, they hire more manpower. Has it ever occured to you that you don't have to be a Moderator to write lore? To improve the spelling and grammar on the Cannon Jutsu list? To help?
All that's keeping most of you from actively supporting and helping is the fact that you won't be rewarded with a Moderator position.
I'll be honest; people like you disappoint me greatly. Especially if they actually support the idea themselves.

If you people WANT to role-play, then this is a great chance to do so. IF you WANT to! If you sit on your asses and give this thread a look and a subsequent shrug, can you guess what'll happen? I can; nothing.

Do you want custom lore? I'll write it. I'm sure there are some proper and dedicated members who'd be more than happy to help without being patted on the head.
You want new rules? I'll write them. I'll design and tweak them as the community pleases. I'm sure there are some people who aren't named Zenryoku who'd be so kind as to help without being granted a Moderator postition.
Damnit, NB, I love the shit out of you, but you're like dogs: you won't do anything unless you're given treats.

All this requires is your dedication. 'Meh' isn't gonna cut it.
I respect you bro, you´re one of the few people who can think outside the box, is open to ideas and doesn´t resist change, can´t say the same for this community, whether or not this idea works, i still support it.xd
 

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Hmm Ill be honest bro I saw what you did in the ninja world with this idea and at first I was like "WTF this doesn't belong here this will fail and get spammed to hell" then I read the dialogue between you and Howard and I thought "you know, this is pretty interesting" then this thread put it all together and to put it in short if I hadn't saw this in action I would say this is horrible and will never work or be interesting but now I see it'll be pretty cool if implemented
 

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I'll be completely frank with you.
I've role-played for some years and what drives a role-play is the community. Not just online, but in any role-play. If the GM doesn't improve or change his scenario when the players move in another direction, then it's called an inflexible GM. If the role-play here stays the way it is because a few inactive seniors will be butthurt over it, then it's called a biased and, well, shitty role-play. If the Plot-designers refuse to tweak their story to fit the players, then they're bad at what they do.
If the community here supports this idea and it's subsequently shot down by the Moderators because they don't have time for it/can't be bothered then they shouldn't occupy a staff position. It's that simple.
If a role-play lacks the manpower, they hire more manpower. Has it ever occured to you that you don't have to be a Moderator to write lore? To improve the spelling and grammar on the Cannon Jutsu list? To help?
All that's keeping most of you from actively supporting and helping is the fact that you won't be rewarded with a Moderator position.
I'll be honest; people like you disappoint me greatly. Especially if they actually support the idea themselves.

If you people WANT to role-play, then this is a great chance to do so. IF you WANT to! If you sit on your asses and give this thread a look and a subsequent shrug, can you guess what'll happen? I can; nothing.

Do you want custom lore? I'll write it. I'm sure there are some proper and dedicated members who'd be more than happy to help without being patted on the head.
You want new rules? I'll write them. I'll design and tweak them as the community pleases. I'm sure there are some people who aren't named Zenryoku who'd be so kind as to help without being granted a Moderator postition.
Damnit, NB, I love the shit out of you, but you're like dogs: you won't do anything unless you're given treats.

All this requires is your dedication. 'Meh' isn't gonna cut it.

I completely support this idea more than anything I've seen come across my eyes in the past 2 years that I have been apart of this community. With Riku's idea of having only "One Cannon Character" in the IC Ninja world this could go very far.

What you said above, has summed up what this site has been about in the past year or so dude. If it's too much work, why not hire more manpower? If your community as a whole supports the idea and is willing to change for the betterment of fun and entertainment then why not give it a chance? You'd be better off not in charge. (Speaking indirectly here). You my friend, have always spoken up for whats obviously taking place, when noone else has the balls or self respect to do so. Our community is not necessarily controlled by biased opinions but by the principles of following strict norms. Noone wants to really have TRUE RP FUN nowadays.

The overall point that needs to be included in this thread is the fact that, you cant implement something such as this without prerequisites. For example: The mindset of the general RP community is forced by general perception to carry out actions a certain way; lack of in character seriousness in the ninja world & battle arena, fight an entire match without trying to get hit by anything including a simple punch, appearing out of nowhere (village to village). The only thing close to being real RolePlay is our training grounds for various reasons if you know what I mean.

A caveman lives and inhabits his environment as he should, but when forcibly taken out of his environment and put in another, the true test is whether can he adapt and change his "trained habits" to suit the new environment or is it just in his nature to stay the same. I made that analogy to describe us as a whole...our newer generations are somewhat "trained" to RolePlay to a certain criteria (avoiding everything, nuke throwing, no dialogue, no character development, no excitement in battles) and it will be hard for some if not all of them to break free of that "trained" mentality they've grown to know. As it is almost all they know.

We as a RolePlaying community must first practice what we preach if this is to go anywhere. + Reps to you man for posting this. You too Riku-Sensei..
 

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Rp wasn´t built in a day, i´ve seen that claim thrown around more then once but if ideas like these get shot down for reasons of it being a hassle or for reasons that resist change then ain´t that hypocritical?
 
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I really like the core of this idea and I've even contemplated suggesting something similar but even more...extreme.

Why not make it a purely custom storyline? No cannon bios. This would work like this: you have a Wood and Storm bios, both cannon and want to participate. You'd fill in a simple template with only the part of the story, name, images, etc of your IC bio. Then, in a part where it would state abilities, you'd link the bio you are mimicking in terms of abilities.

This way, I could be a custom Rinnegan user or a Jinchuriki. Why? Because the IC verse wouldn't be the mimic of the cannon verse. It would be a purely, custom story that we would make ourselves. Of course you'd need to have earned the right to use the bio in the normal RP, meaning the Nagato or Naruto bio tests and requirements would need to be filled. But once gained, you'd be able to RP as yourself using the abilities you gained.

Not only that but i would limit it to one Bio. Not more. Not multiple abilities. Just the abilities you have in that reference bio.

then we'd start a new. From scratch. We'd have the village and etc but in terms of story the universe would start from scratch.

I love the idea, really. And i think it would make Ninja World turn into something really cool. I'm up to help if this gets approved or implemented.

^^
 

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I really like the core of this idea and I've even contemplated suggesting something similar but even more...extreme.

Why not make it a purely custom storyline? No cannon bios. This would work like this: you have a Wood and Storm bios, both cannon and want to participate. You'd fill in a simple template with only the part of the story, name, images, etc of your IC bio. Then, in a part where it would state abilities, you'd link the bio you are mimicking in terms of abilities.

This way, I could be a custom Rinnegan user or a Jinchuriki. Why? Because the IC verse wouldn't be the mimic of the cannon verse. It would be a purely, custom story that we would make ourselves. Of course you'd need to have earned the right to use the bio in the normal RP, meaning the Nagato or Naruto bio tests and requirements would need to be filled. But once gained, you'd be able to RP as yourself using the abilities you gained.

Not only that but i would limit it to one Bio. Not more. Not multiple abilities. Just the abilities you have in that reference bio.

then we'd start a new. From scratch. We'd have the village and etc but in terms of story the universe would start from scratch.

I love the idea, really. And i think it would make Ninja World turn into something really cool. I'm up to help if this gets approved or implemented.

^^
I've already contemplated everything you suggested, but I actually didn't think NB would support the idea .-.
It seems I don't have to create my suggestion for custom lore anymore, either :p
And hot damn, Scoops, I wish I could make things compact and simple like you can.

I completely support your idea, though I'd prefer to keep the rule about having two biographies.
As long as every user only uses one biography in the Ninja World. Having a biogrpahy in reserve would allow people to relax when it comes to having their biogrpahies killed.
I'm thinking of biogrpahy-bound abilities when I say this, like CM, Weights, Hosts, etcetera.
One biography in the Ninja World and one in reserve.

I completely support Custom Lore.
The NB universe could mimic the Narutoverse one in terms of history up to a certain point, whereafter it deviates.
While our Lore might be custom, all CE, CFS and CJ submissions still have to be based on something Cannon. For example; even if EMP blasts are shown in our Lore, EMP cannot be submitted as a CE.
You get where I'm going, right? The Lore should exist purely for RP-developing reasons.

I think this is the start of something great.
 

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Intresting, however... I think the current way is already set in peoples mind..

If you really want something like this you would have to set your rules to reflect it.
If I really wanted something like this I would've what?
I've made my rules to make it as easy for lazy-ass, habit-controlled people like you to participate. My idea is as it is because people like you exists.
So, when both the Moderators and the community express the willingness to take the idea further, of course I'm in and of course I modify my idea, because I'm flexible like that.

@ Bolded - Tell me something others haven't told me before. Change is unavoidable. Abandon your fear. Look forward. Move forward and never stop. You'll age if you pull back. You'll die if you hesitate.
 

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I really like the core of this idea and I've even contemplated suggesting something similar but even more...extreme.

Why not make it a purely custom storyline? No cannon bios. This would work like this: you have a Wood and Storm bios, both cannon and want to participate. You'd fill in a simple template with only the part of the story, name, images, etc of your IC bio. Then, in a part where it would state abilities, you'd link the bio you are mimicking in terms of abilities.

This way, I could be a custom Rinnegan user or a Jinchuriki. Why? Because the IC verse wouldn't be the mimic of the cannon verse. It would be a purely, custom story that we would make ourselves. Of course you'd need to have earned the right to use the bio in the normal RP, meaning the Nagato or Naruto bio tests and requirements would need to be filled. But once gained, you'd be able to RP as yourself using the abilities you gained.

Not only that but i would limit it to one Bio. Not more. Not multiple abilities. Just the abilities you have in that reference bio.

then we'd start a new. From scratch. We'd have the village and etc but in terms of story the universe would start from scratch.

I love the idea, really. And i think it would make Ninja World turn into something really cool. I'm up to help if this gets approved or implemented.

^^

I've already contemplated everything you suggested, but I actually didn't think NB would support the idea .-.
It seems I don't have to create my suggestion for custom lore anymore, either :p
And hot damn, Scoops, I wish I could make things compact and simple like you can.

I completely support your idea, though I'd prefer to keep the rule about having two biographies.
As long as every user only uses one biography in the Ninja World. Having a biogrpahy in reserve would allow people to relax when it comes to having their biogrpahies killed.
I'm thinking of biogrpahy-bound abilities when I say this, like CM, Weights, Hosts, etcetera.
One biography in the Ninja World and one in reserve.

I completely support Custom Lore.
The NB universe could mimic the Narutoverse one in terms of history up to a certain point, whereafter it deviates.
While our Lore might be custom, all CE, CFS and CJ submissions still have to be based on something Cannon. For example; even if EMP blasts are shown in our Lore, EMP cannot be submitted as a CE.
You get where I'm going, right? The Lore should exist purely for RP-developing reasons.

I think this is the start of something great.


@Scorps You know a few weeks back, I suggested to Nexus that we have sharingan implants be brought back into the RolePlay under strict regulation of course along with many other suggestions. I really like the idea of custom Jinchuriki and custom rinnegan. Maybe all together it can be regulated similarly to how we have the custom MS submissions?

I think I would be able to somewhat support both of these ideas mixed together with the core principles of the IC Ninja World. This would be like an RP revolution, mainly because it creates so much more fun and creativity
 
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